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EGPO 3rd Sep 2017 14:09

A reversal of the decision to stop bucket and spade routes.
Eat humble pie and do as Carlisle is going to be doing ( this from the horses mouth) - we are probably giving easy jet free landing slots the same deal as how we got them into Southend which started as we will ).
Off topic but their main runway is being closed shortly for total resurfacing and approach and landing aids.
Lighting etc.
The terminal is hemmed in and will be having 7 large jet capacity stands . This being attached to the logistics hub.
They are confident Ryanair will come . Bravado maybe but coming from where the information came from it's fair to say there may be truth in it. But a point here is Carlisle is surprisingly very busy a lot of mixed traffic this has delayed the runway works. But that airport has a museum and a huge distribution centre plus plans for some other complex close to the site.
More telling was the comment that the terminal is quite close the the runway or will be.
The old terminal is closer to the museum . But I did get a few photos.
As stated DSA has housing surrounding it.
And much more coming .
why worry about one carpark being the deatjknell.
As I say if they allow more routes and beg Thomson back minus fees . Those homes will be full of people who won't have to endure the northern parts of the N1 to get to Newcastle.
So I can see how it will be a benefit .
And future expansion .
The airport as I read is operating at 1972 levels.
I would not worry about making it bigger for eons!.

airpolice 3rd Sep 2017 14:15

Where is it that this mythical population currently live?

A surge of Ryanair pax, prepared to fly from Carlisle or DTV, presently live and fly from where?

That will change.... why?

SWBKCB 3rd Sep 2017 14:56

EGPO - where to start... :eek:

oldart 4th Sep 2017 08:31


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 9881256)
EGPO - where to start... :eek:

Bucket and spade routes always seemed to do well before, even doing a 'W' pattern with Ncl. would be a start.

N707ZS 4th Sep 2017 16:06

Who wants to pay the full price which makes a profit for a bucket and spade holiday!

jensdad 4th Sep 2017 16:31


Where is it that this mythical population currently live?

The same place they lived when Teesside Airport had about 8 times as many passengers as it does now? They haven't gone anywhere but the airlines have, for some reason.

oldart 5th Sep 2017 08:51


Originally Posted by N707ZS (Post 9882267)
Who wants to pay the full price which makes a profit for a bucket and spade holiday!

The same people who use Ncl and Lba at the moment. I would imagine that most company's who fly from any airport want to make a profit. More passengers of any type should mean a win, win situation for airport and the airlines that use them.

Beafer 5th Sep 2017 09:07

Press comments
 
Looks like some of the Peel supporters have been posting public comments under the airport news piece praising Peel plans for no holiday flights.
Campaigners question £1.2m Teesside Airport improvement plan - Gazette Live

Re the plans for the new 55 home development which was know as the Lancaster House buildings. They are going to be built right next to the new railway station.

Type in Lancaster House in the planning search box. The land sometimes floods from memory.
Planning Search

Robert-Ryan 5th Sep 2017 09:09

No way are they paying full price though, too much competition

jamesgrainge 5th Sep 2017 15:08

Housing
 
Although I enjoy flying from the airport it doesn't bring a whole lot to the area economy wise.

What is of critical value and many seem to ignore, is the fact that in order to allow any of our children or grandchildren to buy a house, we will need tens of millions of new homes. Sites like this are ideal for a development opportunity and should be welcomed as such, houses and people will bring more prosperity to the area than continuing to support a failed local airfield.

N707ZS 5th Sep 2017 15:15


Although I enjoy flying from the airport it doesn't bring a whole lot to the area economy wise
. It is at the moment with business flights and grouse shooters.

LTNman 5th Sep 2017 20:38

Only got to look what happened to Sheffield Airport, which was owned by Peel to see what they have in mind for this airport, as they play the long game.:(

Robert-Ryan 5th Sep 2017 22:40

If talk is to be believed (and I'm inclined to believe it given the last round of chatter from the same people yielded fruit in the form of Loganair) then statements such as the above will have no foundation by the end of the year

jensdad 5th Sep 2017 23:41


Sites like this are ideal for a development opportunity and should be welcomed as such, houses and people will bring more prosperity to the area than continuing to support a failed local airfield.

If you look at an Ordnance Survey map of the area there are thousands of acres that are a hell of a lot closer to the town centres of Middlesbrough, Darlington, Stockton, Hartlepool etc. I really can't see where people have got this idea that DTVA, stuck as it is halfway between Darlington and Stockton, is prime land for house building. It's got a railway line next to it , true, but other than that, can't see what makes it any more attractive than any other Brownfield site where development wouldn't involve removing the region's airport.

jamesgrainge 6th Sep 2017 08:12

We need to build on them as well mate, trust me, I'm not singling out the airfield.

The inevitable industry, supermarkets, pubs and entertainment facilities that come with large estate type developments are far more beneficial than the dream of bucket and spade routes.

And trust me, I would love to see nothing more than a bustling airport, I spent many happy hours as a kid spotting, but some realities have to be faced.

jensdad 6th Sep 2017 13:47


We need to build on them as well mate

All of them? Really, look at the Ordnance Survey map that includes DTVA. There's loads more white space on there than here is pinkish grey space. The population is increasing, sure but if it's increasing to such an extent that we need to build on even a quarter of that white space, then we need to look at cutting population growth, but that's getting into JetBlast territory...


As I mentioned previously, the 900,000 passengers a year who were flying from the airport a few years ago are still there. Sure , there have been changes in the local economy and transport links to NCL, LBA etc, but nowhere near enough to account for a ~90% drop in passenger numbers. I'm an outsider looking in (well, from 40 miles up the road anyway) but don't give up on the old place.

Beafer 6th Sep 2017 14:00

Peel make a statement
 
Looks like Peel are telling the new regional Mayor that they have NO intention on selling the 800 acres of prime building land once known as Teesside Airport.

Peel say they have invested £40m. Looks like Pinocchio time ;)
It will soon be " We've put enough money into the failing airport after kicking Thomsons out and its time to close it".

You can just see the press release "Well we've tried storing caravans and using a hangar for scrapping planes, skydiving, and even plans for a refuge tip, all to no avail. So its back to what we do best, house building on gifted land, a bit like Sheffield Airport.

No doubt those in the council who did the secret deal to gift the airport to Peel will have shredded all of the confidential documents.
Wonder why they won't answer FOI requests.
Time for an investigation into who were the secret handshakers who arranged the sale.
'Inaccurate': Airport bosses hit out at mayor for suggesting detailed talks to buy it back are under way - Gazette Live

Navpi 6th Sep 2017 14:05

Why is it feasible to build houses /infastructure etc in Durham foresaking a few flights a day ? BUT not alright in Newcastle just up the road where MPs there want billions invested in Heathrow 400 miles away. And this on the basis that it might, just might bring riches in 20 years !

Would the NE not benefit from proportional direct investment now ?

It just seems an odd proposal for North East MPs to support.

Why not lobby for investment in your own area ?

01475 6th Sep 2017 15:56


Originally Posted by jensdad (Post 9883922)
As I mentioned previously, the 900,000 passengers a year who were flying from the airport a few years ago are still there.

So are the passengers that used to fly from Blackpool, Cambridge, Coventry, Galway, Gloucester, Manston, Oxford, Plymouth, Sheffield, (Shoreham, if it counts), Sligo, Swansea & Waterford. Dundee and Prestwick would be on this list too were it not for government intervention.

It has become harder to operate an airport (it's more expensive and airlines will pay less for it); and the effects of this are being seen all over the country. And we don't know how bad Brexit will be, but we do know that whatever else it's not going to help. I would say there's at least one vacancy on that list for an airport from the British Isles with a name beginning with D.

A controversial thread that I think sees more posts in the thread than commercial movements at the airport might not be the place to go and do this... but has anyone wondered if it would be better if they called the airport where it is, rather than a place you can't really get to from it that's at least as easy to get to from a bigger and better known airport? I feel their market is more realistically Middlesbrough and Teeside than Durham...

highwideandugly 6th Sep 2017 16:43

Becoming..yet again an interesting thread..and a window on UK Airports per se...

Nice to see new contributors with fresh ideas,knowledge,threats! And hope...

Funny old airport Goosepool,Middleton St. George,Teesside Airport or DTV and that is probably the problem..identity,purpose,usage and outcome.
Plenty for Beafer to get his teeth(false?) into...

Good reading ,keep these posts coming...


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