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N707ZS 24th Aug 2017 12:59

Must have took some laxatives to get that one out Beafer, been holding on for weeks!!

airpolice 24th Aug 2017 13:06

N7

Why would a military unit relocate to a civvy airport?

The bottom line here is that Peel can make more money from the land as housing / commercial property than they can with an airport. Making money is what they do. It's their airport.


Darlington International has such a small catchment area, bounded by the sea, Newcastle and LBA that there is no prospect of it getting sufficiently busier to survive.

Commercial realities will win in the end. Look at the farce that Manston has developed into, as well as St. Mawgan.

Robert-Ryan 24th Aug 2017 14:29

What a shock you're all in for :ok:

N707ZS 24th Aug 2017 14:44

airpolice, it was discussed some years ago as they thought the Hawks didn't need to be a military job, no idea why it was back healed. Don't forget Cobham used to be the Canberra squadron. Other things have also been talked about as Robert says watch this space.

SWBKCB 24th Aug 2017 15:16

If we are still talking Cobham/Leeming the next checkpoint should be the awarding of the ASDOT contract in 2020.

Says on this link that the Hawks at Leeming are due to carry on until 2027.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...ssor-p-427454/

SWBKCB 24th Aug 2017 20:02

Can anybody local say exactly where this relates to? Any impact on DTVA?

Former RAF site at Durham Tees Valley Airport is to become housing estate (From The Northern Echo)

N707ZS 24th Aug 2017 21:25

No impact. Buildings opposite camper van centre right near the start of the old entrance road.

Robert-Ryan 26th Aug 2017 21:11

If anyone still cares it appears Skydive St. George have gone bankrupt

Beafer 28th Aug 2017 09:48

Government £1.2 BILLION grants available.
 
Noticed the new wind farm is about to go up down the road.

I'm aware that Peel are moving into wind farms elsewhere in the country.
Made me wonder what was in it for them?
There is a post in the public comments section under this article which says that the government is paying out £1.2 billion in grants to build the wind turbines.
Wasn't this wind farm the one that Peel objected to, and said it would affect their radar at DTV?
Construction of £17.5m Moor House wind farm on outskirts of Darlington due to begin this week (From The Northern Echo)

inOban 28th Aug 2017 10:06

I don't think they need to be subsidised any longer. The costs have come down so much that they as cheap as as fossil fuels.

No-More-Bullschit 1st Sep 2017 14:01

https://www.insidermedia.com/insider...y-airport-area


Similar housing schemes have been successfully developed at a number of other UK airports and the planned housing will be on land which will not affect airport operations nor hinder future growth.

SWBKCB 1st Sep 2017 15:59


Similar housing schemes have been successfully developed at a number of other UK airports
Can anybody think where such significant housing development has taken place so close to the terminal?


nor hinder future growth.
Most growing airports are building car parks, not building on them!

Robert-Ryan 1st Sep 2017 17:25

Southend for one, there are others, and there will still be parking to spare, they're not exactly building on top of it, more around it

highwideandugly 1st Sep 2017 17:30

While investment is of course welcome...do you not t get the feeling the airport is becoming somewhat hemmed in??

SWBKCB 1st Sep 2017 19:08

HWU - yes, exactly - can't think of any other airport which has initiated such new housing development right up to the terminal complex

RR- Southend? Where are you thinking of?


and there will still be parking to spare
Based on current numbers maybe, but the quote above says the development won't "hinder future growth".

The Masterplan clearly shows the current car park being built on - at the Eastern end and the western area currently used by the caravan store (the Masterplan does say it is possible to expand the car parking "potentially through a decked solution" - that's what every executive housing estate needs...)

Robert-Ryan 1st Sep 2017 19:43

There's always ways and means to expand

AirportPlanner1 2nd Sep 2017 09:41


Originally Posted by Robert-Ryan (Post 9879635)
Southend for one, there are others, and there will still be parking to spare, they're not exactly building on top of it, more around it

Luton surely? Hardly a quiet backwater

G-FORZ 2nd Sep 2017 10:27

Take a look at Peel owned DSA, housing developments on all access approaches, and the former RAF accommodation sites. Has worked for them there, seems they are only building on the same model at DTV.

Robert-Ryan 2nd Sep 2017 19:47

Yeah there are plenty of good examples

SWBKCB 3rd Sep 2017 11:32

OK - lets go over this again as I've not made myself clear. The latest press statement has a quote from a spokesperson saying:

Central to our plans is maximising the potential of the whole airport site to provide other sources of revenue alongside our passenger and general aviation operations.
Haven't got a problem with that - exactly what they should be doing, and as I've stated previously this is what has happened so well at Liverpool (IMHO, a better example than DSA)

however, the statement also says

Similar housing schemes have been successfully developed at a number of other UK airports and the planned housing will be on land which will not affect airport operations nor hinder future growth
Now, I can't think of another airport where an airport company has promoted housing so close to the terminal complex - as HWU says hemming it in - and can't see how this won't hinder future growth. Where airports have developed around the terminal it ahs been complementary activities - hotels, car parking(!), logistics parks, etc.

Other than providing funding (admittedly not an insignificant benefit), can't see how having housing so close to the terminal is remotely complementary - far more likely to be the opposite...


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