It seems that the relationship between Stobart Air and the airports has become more "arms-length" than it was. I believe that EI own the -600s and lease them to STK, which probably dictates a large part of where they operate to. Stobart allowed flyBe to take over the DUB-SEN route, for reasons which were never clear to me. Its strange that they have never resumed the route - unless the aircraft can gain better returns elsewhere.
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SEN-DUB lost money.
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Originally Posted by cumbrianboy
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SEN-DUB lost money.
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It seems that the relationship between Stobart Air and the airports has become more "arms-length" than it was. I believe that EI own the -600s and lease them to STK, which probably dictates a large part of where they operate to. Stobart allowed flyBe to take over the DUB-SEN route, for reasons which were never clear to me. Its strange that they have never resumed the route - unless the aircraft can gain better returns elsewhere. |
I heard recently that some of Stobart's ATR 72-600s are configured differently than the standard 72 seats, could anyone provide any further information please? Geeky question... sorry!
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The 3 new 600s (FMJ/K and FNA) are all in 70Y config, the original 8 are in 72Y
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Thanks cumbrianboy, appreciated!
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DUB to EMA, DSA and Cardiff being axed apparently
Stobart Air axing routes between Dublin and Britain - The Sunday Business Post |
Any other source? Doesn't seem reliable.
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It's reliable alright. Those 3 are to cease at the end of October.
I'd imagine BE would pick up the DSA, and the whole reason why EIR have dropped CWL is the whole BE thing. As for EMA i'm not sure. |
RYR already do EMA
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Isn't the fleet due to be reduced for winter schedule with the retiring of some of the older birds? With that in mind and the cost of constantly having a wet leased 'flying clown' hanging around (currently OY-RUG) it's understandable to cut the more marginal routes.
Perhaps suggests there isn't any plans to add new 42's to the fleet. |
stobarts doing extra rotations ex brs 4 days per week. this starts november 1st
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Looking on FR24, it appears that the 2 aircraft owned by Jota have been operating for flights sold on the Flybe website but operated under commercial responsibility of Stobart. If I look on the Flybe website, the same route-date-time flight combinations (but over the next 2 week period) are listed as being operated by Stobart Air, rather than Jota. I remember earlier in the spring the Flybe website made explicit mention of Jota as being the operator of these flights
Has something changed in the relationship between Stobart and Jota to cause this to become a drier lease than the previous wet lease, or is this just the Flybe website giving incorrect info ? |
SEN winter schedule shows...
3 new routes from 29 October SEN-DUB 3x daily (E195) SEN-GLA 8x weekly (E195) SEN-MAN 3x daily (ATR72) 3 dropped from 27 October: SEN-CFR 5x weekly (ATR72) SEN-CGN 6x weekly (E195/RJ) SEN-GRQ 8x weekly (ATR72) Reduced: SEN-RNS 12x weekly to 7x weekly (ATR72) |
Don't forget new routes to MXP, VIE, PRG, BUD, LYS
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DJ 6
no its just jota doing it on ACMI until Stobart get the EMB on their licence and enough crews to undertake - no real news = its all just timing |
When are those EMB supposed to be inbound?
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I've bumped the Stobart Air thread up the page for potential discussion of their possible, if any, interest in acquiring Flybe.
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I would say smart move, Stobart have got some interesting players onboard including Warwick Brady who would be more than capable of running a combined airline. Maybe the fresh start and thinking it needs.
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