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compton3bravo 24th Apr 2015 04:42

As I have said before on another forum nobody in their right mind would go to Florida between May and November due to it been extremely hot, humid and above all hurricane season, but there again the Brits go because it is so much cheaper in the ´´off´´ season.

ATNotts 24th Apr 2015 06:56


As I have said before on another forum nobody in their right mind would go to Florida between May and November
Exactly. You've got to be slightly daft. Best times are November to April, when UK schools don't have longer holidays Canadians know this only too well!

cheesebag 24th Apr 2015 07:44

I've done MCO the last fortnight in August when most American kids are back at school. Better than July to early August.

Going back to the earlier point I'm sure BHX could maintain someone like VS operating a 789 or 333 five times a week... especially as man operates a 744 twice daily. Only sticking point is I presume them all being configured to LHR 3 class.

getonittt 24th Apr 2015 15:49


Only sticking point is I presume them all being configured to LHR 3 class.
The MAIN sticking point would be that the bearded one has stated there is no chance of VS operating from BHX.

chinapattern 24th Apr 2015 18:16


Originally Posted by getonittt (Post 8954622)
The MAIN sticking point would be that the bearded one has stated there is no chance of VS operating from BHX.

While I don't expect VS to be setting up shop BHX can airlines really ever say 'never'? Markets change and I'm also thinking of AA who reportedly vowed never to set foot in BHX again.

jon01 25th Apr 2015 05:28

S15 - Stobart Air (Aer Lingus Regional)

The Shannon service will now utilise the Cork aircraft, with a revised earlier departure from Cork at 15:00, so no more decent day returns from Birmingham to Cork!

15:00 ORK - BHX 16:30/16:55 BHX - SNN 18:35/19:00 SNN - BHX 20:35/21:05 BHX - ORK 22:40 (SUN-FRI)

jon01 25th Apr 2015 20:07

Has any else on this thread noticed that a number of posts, including mine, from here are being copied and pasted at the forum linked below without permission? No credit is being given at all.

I think that this has to stop as it is breaking forum rules :=

I hope that the culprit has taken note of this

Birmingham Transport | Birmingham Airport (BHX) - Page 308 - SkyscraperCity

Ian Brooks 25th Apr 2015 21:51

I think the guy has said he is sorry as he was rushing at the time


Ian

insuindi 26th Apr 2015 07:40


Originally Posted by jon01 (Post 8956004)
Has any else on this thread noticed that a number of posts, including mine, from here are being copied and pasted at the forum linked below without permission? No credit is being given at all.

I think that this has to stop as it is breaking forum rules :=

I hope that the culprit has taken note of this

Birmingham Transport | Birmingham Airport (BHX) - Page 308 - SkyscraperCity

This copy and paste action has been going on for a long time, so the posters in question seem to be notoriously short of time and so for months if not years already... don't understand how much it would take to simply add sth along the lines of "as posted over in pprune..." maybe they will learn.

nigel osborne 26th Apr 2015 13:45

CAT111NDB.


BHX runway extension taxiway work /resurfacingis now completed.

BHX runway and taxiways are capable of supporting a fully laden A380 and planes don't get much heavier than that .


Although they have taken out some of the bumps its still undulates especially 15 end.

Runway lighting upgraded to full LED and will be back to CAT3B after enough calibration runs have been made.

Nigel

Guest 112233 26th Apr 2015 17:24

Thanks Nigel
 
That's interesting to know. It illustrates that having a 3 Km runway is in its self is not the complete story.

I hope it bodes well for the future. Being able to support a fully laden A380, (Yes I'm watching the Cargo B777-300 argument too) must be a strategic asset for the facility and the Midlands as a whole.

I have watched with interest the long haul developments at Birmingham and over the next 20 years or so, this investment might come to be seen as an historic turning point (no pun intended) for the Economy of the West Midlands.

Airports have now become the "Sea Ports" in part, of centuries past [and present] Towns and cities that the roads, canals and railways bypassed did not thrive. There's an almighty warning in economic terms for all of the UK here. If the project succeeds economically; all well and good (greater trade, tourism(in and out). If there is little or no additional trade (extra long haul bucket and spade outward is of limited Economic value), the 50 Year wait/delay will have extracted a terrible cost.

Nigel: there are echo's of the LHR hiatus here and BHX is now possibly part of the solution. The critical thing is that the runway infrastructure at Brum is here and ready not vapour ware and not PDF's or verbage.

CAT III

Suzeman 26th Apr 2015 18:36


BHX runway and taxiways are capable of supporting a fully laden A380 and planes don't get much heavier than that .
Nothing to do with the aircraft's overall weight, but to do with the wheel loadings.

Have a read of this

Pavement classification number - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and this

Aircraft classification number - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

nigel osborne 26th Apr 2015 18:57

Suzeman,

Yes I know that was just trying to answer a general question simply.


As you like the tech stuff BHX is between.. PCN 93/84/75/R /B/WT on most of its taxiways and aprons :ok:


Nigel

Guest 112233 26th Apr 2015 19:29

Suzeman and Nigel
 
Yes I do understand the engineering concepts related to PCN and ACN (I alluded to this in the original question).

Of course I looked at the Wiki links before posting the question and Nigel's answer was sufficiently technical for a layman like me. I do appreciate the effects of aircraft undercarriage geometry and mass distribution.

My starting point was from the EDI thread and I consulted the UK AIP to establish the 15/33 PCN - The text supports Nigel's answer. I had wondered if the !5/33 PCN will eventually be will be upgraded as a result of the work undertaken. Hence my ref to the age of the runway.

I realise this actually takes time as [edit: I imagine] literally bedding in takes pace.

All in all, Nigel’s reply to my question was appropriate for the description of what I imagine is a branch of civil engineering.

Thank you.

nigel osborne 27th Apr 2015 11:24

Thanks CAT111.

The engineering for the extension was amazing.They had to build a large 14ft x 14ft and 500 metre long re-enforced steel tube aquaduct underneath the extension to carry the large brook through the airfield.

They sunk the main A45 down 30 feet at the end of 33 incase they want to add a start up strip at the end of the extension in the future. This allows them to build a wide bridge over the A45 for that purpose.

Due to water run off in heavy ran onto the A45 below they have buried 2 huge fanned water pumps either side of the A45 to suck any flooding up.


Only down side, the spoil has been put into a large bank one side blocking views of the extension as you drive past.


Nigel

davebham 28th Apr 2015 22:10

Thanks Nigel. Great to get an insight into what has gone into the Airport project.....

BHX5DME 28th Apr 2015 22:41

Monrach at BHX win American Contract
 
Monarch Aircraft Engineering Ltd (MAEL), the engineering division of The Monarch Group, has been contracted to provide line maintenance technical handling to American Airlines.

The contract, which commences in May, will see Monarch’s highly experienced engineering team support American Airlines Boeing 757-200 aircraft at Birmingham Airport in the UK.

The American carrier, which is a new customer for MAEL, will be operating the Boeing 757-200 on its new daily route from JFK Airport into Birmingham.

Commenting on this contract win, Dave Norton, Head of Sales for Monarch Aircraft Engineering said: “Our rapidly expanding customer base at Birmingham is testament to our efficient, reliable and high quality line maintenance teams and we are delighted to be American Airlines partner of choice.”

Oliver Barnes, Regional Manager Line Maintenance for American Airlines comments: “We look forward to excellent service from Monarch in Birmingham with safe, on-time performance for our customers.”

OltonPete 29th Apr 2015 18:34

Norwegian
 
Malaga is released for winter 2015/6 at twice weekly Monday and Friday but no change as yet with Madrid and Barcelona as they are still showing only to October.

Not really checked Thomas Cook summer 16 but some routes appear to be a little down although early days.

Pete

AerRyan 29th Apr 2015 21:11

No extra flights to DUB with Aer Lingus, the Shannon service is being operated by a Cork based aircraft.

nigel osborne 30th Apr 2015 10:09

BHX5DME.


Any advertising of better links between BHX and American Airlines is welcome.

However surely this is just spin.

1. If an AA 757 went tech at BHX without this agreement surely MAEL would be called in to fix and if required hangar it anyway ?

2. Reported elsewhere that MAEL already have the contract with AA for their 757s that have been visiting Manchester for some years !! ?

Nigel


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