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racedo 19th Jan 2013 13:30


This 1000 jobs per 1m pax is a fallacy, there are plenty of airports in this country with less than 1000people working direct/indirect at an airport with more than a 1m pax. It's the usual propangda spouted by RYR to say how wonderful they are in supporting local economies, whilst employing cheaper Eastern European trolley dollies.
Then take the issue up with ACI then as its their published data.

And for the cheap nasty jibe at employing foreigners.....

Shows you haven't been in many UK airport recently........

racedo 19th Jan 2013 13:32


The joker is the person who seized on a meaningless non-statistic and then wheeled it out as holy writ.(For exactly the spurious PR purposes mentioned in the last post.)
You are the one whinging that Ryanair are using a statement which they have attributed to ACI.

Failing to prove the data is incorrect you then find something else to whinge about.

ayroplain 20th Jan 2013 10:43

Interesting article in the Independent today. Interesting not so much in what MOL is purported to have said (which we are used to) but that the Aviation Regulator is to face further questioning by the PAC.
Ryanair raps O'Leary for 'pathetic personal abuse' after branding aviation commissioner a 'village idiot' - National News - Independent.ie

The SSK 21st Jan 2013 08:38

Stansted - 18 million passengers, 10,000 jobs. Now we're getting warmer.

Jorik 22nd Jan 2013 17:26

Italian expansion
 
Press conferences today in Italy: Ciampino, Pisa and Bergamo
Most routes where already known.

NEW ROUTES from Milan Bergamo:

Milan Bergamo (BGY) - Knock (NOC)
Milan Bergamo (BGY) - Malta (MLA)
Milan Bergamo (BGY) - Kalamata (KLX)
Milan Bergamo (BGY) - Catania (CTA) (NEW AIRPORT)


NEW ROUTES from Rome Ciampino

Rome Ciampino (CIA) - Bremen (BRE)
Rome Ciampino (CIA) - Corfu (CFU)
Rome Ciampino (CIA) - Fez (FEZ)


NEW ROUTES from Pisa:

Pisa (PSA) - Targu Mures (TGM)
Pisa (PSA) - Leipzig (LEJ)
Pisa (PSA) - Nuremberg (NUE)
Pisa (PSA) - Warsaw Modlin (WMI)

eu01 23rd Jan 2013 13:53

Interesting news unfolding right now(Reuters/Fox)

Low-cost Irish airline Ryanair is closing in on a deal to buy at least 150 Boeing 737 passenger jets and the contract could be signed within weeks, industry sources said. Most or all of the planes would likely be current generation 737s rather than the upcoming Max upgrade, which would allow Ryanair to secure a significant discount on the list price, two of the sources said on Wednesday.
Read more here.

dohouch 26th Jan 2013 07:16

Can't find any cheap flights Ireland-Spain
 
Surprised there hasn't been more talk about this, or maybe I missed it.

Used to be able to fly Dub>Mad for less than €40 return, and Dublin-Malaga for less than €50, I'm talking here about 2011. Now all I see are Madrid for €90+, and Malaga for €120+.

I know the Spanish have raised airport taxes, but that can't be the sole reason for such a hike in prices. I did fly Dublin-Tenerife in December for €140 return which is O.K. for a 4 1/2 hour flight, which compares well to what I paid 2 years ago(€110), cheap for 9 hours in the air.

Cheapest lights to Canaries increase by 30%, flights to Madrid, Malaga by 300%.

Does it have to do with having less aircraft in the air in winter months? then not having then to fill seats at very low prices.

FR- 28th Jan 2013 07:51



RYANAIR REPORTS Q3 PROFIT OF €18M (UP 21%)
TRAFFIC UP 3%, AVG FARES UP 8% - F.Y. GUIDANCE RAISED TO €540M


Ryanair, Europe's only ultra-low cost carrier today (Jan 28) announced Q3 profits of €18m, up €3m on last year despite an €81m increase in fuel costs. Revenues rose 15% to €969m as traffic grew 3% to 17.3m passengers. Unit costs rose 11% mainly due to a 24% (€81m) increase in fuel. Excluding fuel Q3 unit costs rose by 4%, while avg. fares improved by 8%.

Outlook.
Our Q3 yields were boosted by stronger pre-Christmas bookings, while lower than expected operating costs delivered slightly better profits than forecast. However Q4 traffic (as previously guided) will drop by approx.400,000 passengers (-3%)below last year's Q4, due to our grounding up to 80 aircraft which limits the impact of high oil prices, high airport fees at Stansted and Dublin, and seasonally weaker Q4 demand. On the basis of this improved Q3 result, our capacity cuts and limited visibility over Easter bookings and yields, (although we have seen some yield softness in January), we now expect our full year profits to exceed our previous guidance (of €490m to €520m) and rise close to €540m, a 7% increase on last year's profits despite a 19% increase in our oil costs.

racedo 28th Jan 2013 17:43

Good set of Interim results .............yet again.

ssflyer 29th Jan 2013 07:58

Lack of cheap flights
 
Following on from post 528,I have just compared my last three years bookings with FR from BHX to GRO (Girona)
June flights,same week/day of week. Fare including luggage & PB.
June 2011 £178 return
June 2012 £207
June 2013 £272
FR have got us over a barrel( they have reduced the schedule to twice weekly) as there are no other airlines flying to GRO from BHX or local airports and Barcelona is 100 minutes from my final destination.
Forget fuel,taxes etc-this pricing is based on supply and demand.

ScotsSLF 29th Jan 2013 08:23

It's not just FR that have us over a barrel. Just booked PIK - FAO with FR but only after comparing with EZY and JET2 from GLA. Paid just over £1100 for four of us but still around £200 cheaper than flying from GLA. The days of really cheap fares are gone - it is all about supply and demand.

The SSK 29th Jan 2013 08:23


Used to be able to fly Dub>Mad for less than €40 return, and Dublin-Malaga for less than €50
Does it occur to you that these are stupidly low prices, unrelated to the true cost of operating the service? Someone, somewhere was cross-subsidising fares like that. Maybe that source of largesse is drying up.

insuindi 29th Jan 2013 11:37

This was put down as a non-story in this thread earlier, but the German aviation authorities now have issued a bill (not a big issue financially at 450k Euro) to Ryanair for fees that Ryanair avoided through using a lighter weight category than appropriate for departure fees.

Other countries' authorities want to follow, avoided charges for Europe seems to be around 50m Euro according to several sites.

The SSK 29th Jan 2013 12:25

This is not just underpayment by FR, because of the cost-recovery charging for ATM, every €50m avoided by FR results in an overpayment of €50m by everyone else. Try telling Lufthansa, for example, that their share of Germany's €450k (bit more than half?) is not a big issue, when it amounts to a cash transfer from their pocket to their competitor's.

insuindi 29th Jan 2013 15:33

There are suggestions that Ryanair will announce FMO (Munster-Osnabruck, Germany) as a new destination this week.

EI-A330-300 29th Jan 2013 15:46

Ryanair not ruling out appeal if Aer Lingus bid blocked - Irish, Business - Independent.ie

Ryanair described there performance out of DUB over the 12 weeks to end of December as "so so".

You can see why they are so desperate to take over Aer Lingus.

Bengt 30th Jan 2013 04:16


Following on from post 528,I have just compared my last three years bookings with FR from BHX to GRO (Girona)
June flights,same week/day of week. Fare including luggage & PB.
June 2011 £178 return
June 2012 £207
June 2013 £272
I have noticed the same regarding flights to Barcelona from Sweden in June and July. Previous years I have paid between 140 and 220 incl 1 luggage for a return flight. This year it is between 330 and 420.
Quite a difference and Ryanair is now more expensive then Vueling. And Vueling flies from the real Stockholm airport.

AirGuru 30th Jan 2013 08:32

In response to those who wish to fly to Spanish airports in the BHX region, CWL with Vueling is worth a look. BCN from £29.99 one way, and gives better access to the city than GRO.

lexoncd 30th Jan 2013 08:48

Similarly when looking in to Summer and Mrs W popping here and there Easyjet are less than half the price of Ryanair into Bilbao compared to French destinations. Luggage, credit crad, admin, eu261, etc etc included. I was surprised myself at the difference and who had the lower fare...

AirGuru 30th Jan 2013 09:03

Yes FR and EZY are way more expensive that VY.

Example,
VY
CWL-BCN-CWL - £84 (Including bags and seat selection)

FR (From BRS)
BRS-GRO-BRS - £216 (No bags, standard return fare)

EZY (From BRS)
BRS-BCN-BRS - £208 (No bags, standard return fare)

All include 10KG of take-on (Hand Luggage)

Seems unfortunate that the VY flights seem quite far down the yield curve, but you get the picture, a LOT cheaper than the alternative. Same probably applies for BHX !


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