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FRatSTN 12th Aug 2013 08:28

I think if they have any sense they won't waste a penny doing that.

As it currently is they can easily manage to operate arrivals on 23R and departures on 23L (or arrivals on 05R, departures 05L when north-easterly ops) in dual runway ops.

All it would do is allow 05R departures and 23L arrivals and what is the benefit of that? Either way your aircraft is going to end up right at the bottom of the airfield miles from the terminals.

They certainly don't need to operate mixed mode so I really don't see the point in doing it.

Walshy95 12th Aug 2013 22:33

Have EZY got any expansion plans for MAN in the short/medium term?

LAX_LHR 13th Aug 2013 02:56

Emirates are to operate double daily A380 flights from 21st-30th September.

EK 17/18 and EK19/20 will be A380, with EK21/22 sill B77W. Flights are bookable on their website, and double daily A380 is expected to continue from 1st December as all A380's are needed elsewhere/have maintenance in Oct/Nov.

Good to see some expansion from Emirates again at MAN.

Mr Mac 13th Aug 2013 19:20

LAX-LHR
Sad to hear of change on evening EK from 777 to 380 as always use that flight if possible in preference to lunch time 380 "Golf bus". I was told back in the spring that this was on the cards by EK crew, but hoped, as they did that this was untrue (they were northern ex pats):sad:. Anyway hope it does not get as loud as the crowd can be on the lunch time flight in the bar.

steve platt 13th Aug 2013 19:29

Temporary to see how the pax loads hold up and to see how the handling agent and service partners handle it..... am sure there will be no probs and it will go permanent double daily from start of summer season 2014.

ManofMan 14th Aug 2013 07:47

MANCHESTER - 9
 
That's not the reason I have, it's only temporary due to equipment shortage, as soon as they have he aircraft they intend to go double daily.

RoyHudd 14th Aug 2013 07:53

Taxiway Q.
 
Used it recently. Very helpful, from a customer's point of view.

pwalhx 14th Aug 2013 19:54

Interesting the view on the A380/777, I prefer the A380 any day to the 777 and don't really recognise the 'golf bus' description, each to their own I guess. What interests me more in my world is the prospect of Skycargo coming in, if and when, double daily becomes a permanent fixture.

roverman 14th Aug 2013 22:15

Southern taxiways and A380
 
In reply to gazza, above, and your remarks reference the southern parallel taxiway (Victor). This is unlikely to ever be extended to the full length of the runway. It would be extremely expensive to construct, requiring bigger tunnels over both the River Bollin and the A538. Last estimate was £60 million, and for what? The two runways cannot be used in mixed mode, it would only be of use at times when Runway 2 is being used alone, and this is normally when traffic is slack (at night). That sort of money would go some way to resolving the constraints inherent in the north side taxiways, where WW2 alignments remain and there are a couple of bottlenecks which make the whole system vulnerable to delays and disruption. Sections of Alpha and Juliet are to be rebuilt over the next 18-24 months, with improved alignments and (in the case of Alpha) upgrading to full Code F specification. Also in anticipation of increased A380 movements MAG are evaluating the modification of taxiways Charlie and Bravo to offer alternative routes to/from Stand 12.

gazza007 14th Aug 2013 23:08

I see both sides of the argument in respect of Taxiways but you never know what will happen in the future. I'm a local guy who has grown up with the changes & had the privilige of smelling the Jet A1 both on the piers/brickworks and sitting in the left seat waiting for 20 mins on south side trying to find a gap between the heavies when it was just called 24/06.
EGCC has huge potential,don't get me wrong I'm sick to death of the disruptions with the ongoing peripheral infrastructure developments which will further establish its status. At the end of the day its about jobs and growth in our great city.
Ps still waiting for LGW to be picked up, approached FLYbe but not comitted.
Guess I'll have to start my own business:)

Shed-on-a-Pole 15th Aug 2013 10:15

FlyBe is scrapping its LGW operation entirely due to operating costs. Any carrier attempting LGW-MAN with similar sized aircraft would have to address the same issues. With BAW having axed the route, EZY apparently uninterested, and APD inhibiting domestic flying ... well, I suppose it is going to be a long wait.

gazza007 16th Aug 2013 00:55

APD is a real killer, I'm going to tweet that Farage chappie for his opinion

chaps2011 16th Aug 2013 11:09

Emirates DXB to MAN July figures up 12% to 64432 from 54644
A very healthy rise also carried through at LGW, LHR, NCL and GLA
whilst BHX down 10% very strange



Chaps

LAX_LHR 17th Aug 2013 06:27

There is an interview with the flynonstop CEO in this months airliner world.

He seems to single out Manchester (and Alterheim) as having strong forward bookings, which sounds encouraging.

Warrington-lad 17th Aug 2013 13:24

Border control queues
 
all e-passport gates were shut again at terminal 1 at about 17:00 yesterday, it seems this isnt a rare occurrence either and the queues do start to build up quick. Im not complaining at the service at border control but it could cut a few minutes off the queue times if MAN actually used the e-passport gates rather than letting them collect dust.

CabinCrew747 17th Aug 2013 13:55


all e-passport gates were shut again at terminal 1 at about 17:00 yesterday, it seems this isnt a rare occurrence either and the queues do start to build up quick. Im not complaining at the service at border control but it could cut a few minutes off the queue times if MAN actually used the e-passport gates rather than letting them collect dust.
Immigration times where over 2 hours at around 14:00 yesterday.

Thanks

MAN777 17th Aug 2013 17:37

2 hrs :eek::eek:

If that is so its an absolute disgrace.

There are 2 things that put me off airports and locations, the first is waiting to get in and the second is waiting to get out.

If anyone with any influence on the Border agency (or whatever they call themselves this week) is reading this thread, your inefficiency is causing untold damage to the credibility and image of Manchester.

Warrington-lad 17th Aug 2013 20:05

Security at MAN is okay, Its the immigration that needs altering and quick otherwise people will go to LPL and LHR especially if they have to wait 2 hours in immigration!!!

MKY661 17th Aug 2013 21:47

I was in Terminal 2 on Monday and the Queues to get out of the baggage hall were also horrendous. Don't know why like.

Sionnach 17th Aug 2013 23:01

Border Force
 
Queue Times @ apts for Immigration.

A forced marriage Customs & Immigration that has gone so wrong ministers & managers won't admit it.

Lot's of experienced operational staff (due to the above, lack of moral & extremely poor management) left or where made redundant as the non-operational grades who the Government wanted to cut stayed in their cosy towers in Croydon.

A roster system based on teams that can't match resources, managers will not revert as will be seen to admit they got it wrong (the officers have been telling them for two years).

E-gates are slower than experienced staff in processing pax but managers again will not admit that is the case.

Demerger of immigration enforcement & customs inland teams means that they can't help out borders during the summer peaks.

Spreading of the pain I.e. officers from EDI & GLA travelling to MAN to try to cut queues causing queues @ EDI & GLA.

I could go on but just to say that it is not the operational staff who are at fault but that of Border Force (yes our 4th name in 4years) is poorly funded, poorly trained, poorly managed but look on the Bright side more cuts to funding are on the way.

For the record Border Force demerged from Border Agency in 2012, Border Agency ceased to exist in 2013 it's functions returning to the Home Office.:ugh:


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