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fjencl 28th Dec 2017 11:25

Who is Titan operating for summer 2018 at LGW......

Buster the Bear 28th Dec 2017 19:00

G-POWS is destined to be the ex British Airways B737-400 G-DOCT. A 1992 airframe.

BAladdy 4th Jan 2018 19:48

Just booked BA flights to GIB from LGW for this July. Flights are showing as being operated by Titan. Had a look at other BA destinations from LGW and there are a few showing as being operated by Titan.

Wondering if anyone info on how many aircraft are being leased to BA and how long they are being leased for?.

Also was wondering if anyone knows the status of there 757 G-ZAPX?. As it doesn’t seem have operated a flight since late October?.

Buster the Bear 4th Jan 2018 20:09

G-ZAPX in the hangar at Lasham.

Flightwatch 4th Jan 2018 20:19

Courtesy of the BA source:

Titan Airways On Board as British Announce Increased Gatwick Summer Schedule.
Jan 4, 2018
Following parent company IAG’s successful bid for former Monarch slots at London Gatwick, British Airways today indicated an expanded summer schedule from March 25th with frequency increases on the Malaga, Alicante, Faro and Tenerife South and new British Airways mainline services to Palma, Mahon and Gibraltar. Titan Airways provide some of the capacity.

toledoashley 4th Jan 2018 20:23

I wonder if we could see POWS at LGW, how ironic if so! Back one last summer...

BAladdy 4th Jan 2018 20:45

Had more of a look and it looks like all the flights are showing as being operated by a Airbus. I first thought that they are leasing 2 A320’s however there are some days were Titan are showing as operating 3 flights departing within a couple of hours of each other. They all showing as A320 operated, however Titan only have 2 A320’s left in there Fleet.

toledoashley 4th Jan 2018 20:48

Thanks - and don't Titan also operate the Gambia/Corsica charters with 320's?

cornishsimon 4th Jan 2018 22:41

Think titan have picked up an ex ZB A320

southside bobby 5th Jan 2018 06:51

Titan A320`s supporting BAW A320`s over 13 destinations ex LGW from end May18 thru end Sept 18.

One AWC A320 has been handed back to the lessor being on a shorter lease with another said to be joining the fleet as replacement.

Rumors continue that the CAA are "unhappy" with the requested lease in by BAW of 6 QTR A320`s to complement the fleet re the capacity void connected with late deliveries & the acquisition of the MON slots.

The CAA view appears to be BAW can/could take remedial action re the late deliveries & acquiring the MON slots with a knowledge of their lack of capacity is a problem of their own making.

The CAA could appear to be holding to the recognised policy of leases from within the EU
at the present time.

Serenity 5th Jan 2018 08:33

So overall, is this going to be an extra airframe for Titan?

Jerry123 5th Jan 2018 14:59

There is an ex Monarch A320 G-ZBAP parked up at St Athan at the moment. So maybe that is destined for Titan?

jijpc 5th Jan 2018 17:35

According to Jethros ex Monarch A321 G-ZBAF is to become G-POWT with Titan

mrshubigbus 5th Jan 2018 18:15

If only BA had agreed terms with Monarch. This could all have been avoided! Nine or ten A320/A321s already based at LGW with some highly motivated Monarch crews - all let go and now scattered far and wide while BA try and lease in Qatar and Titan Airways to run what were already Monarch routes on the very slots that they bought! Such a waste of resources as neither side would strike a deal! Between all the various parties involved in this, including the CAA, what a mess!

garry8g 5th Jan 2018 18:23

Are the two A321's (GPOWN & GPOWT) not both destined for Jet2 for Summer 18 this year, based out of Stansted?

canberra97 5th Jan 2018 19:09

mrshubigbus

I agree with most of what you wrote but seriously did British Airways really want to be saddled with the Monarch debt plus a bunch of unwanted B737 Max!

It is mess as British Airways have obtained the Monarch slots without having enough available aircraft of their own to operate them not that we didn't know that but it was obvious that they didn't have enough spare capacity to fully utilise these slots without having to lease in alternative aircraft for summer 2018.

What happens for summer 2019, I wonder how many A319/320's will be moving over to LGW from LHR once British Airways start receiving their new A320/321 neos as this may well delay the gradual withdrawal of the A319's from the fleet.

toledoashley 5th Jan 2018 20:40

Not just lacking the aircraft, but reorganising the schedule as well. Certainly in the case of Tenerife and Madeira although capacity has been increased the flights depart within ten minutes of each other and have different flight times!

HZ123 6th Jan 2018 05:12

Qatar application to the CAA by BA has been withdrawn seemingly, so I guess there will be a few other aircraft leased in!

Business wise it makes commercial sense to assess these routes and then plan what to do with the slots 2018/2019. Some may well be utilised by LEVEL next year.

canberra97 6th Jan 2018 06:55

I can't see IAG bringing the Level brand to LGW there is absolutely no benefit for them in doing so, with British Airways having the B777 going 10 abreast to increase seat capacity to compete with Norwegian is already underway and the Level brand will only dilute and confuse the situation at LGW.

Level will be more of a European focused brand with bases in BCN, FCO, ORY, etc and if the brand is ever brought to the United Kingdom I think that we're see Level at MAN long before we're see them at LGW.

With all the concerns about IAG having to compete with Norwegian well that airline might not even be around long enough to be of any long term concern for IAG.

Serenity 6th Jan 2018 09:04

So back to Titan,

Extra airframes, extra crews?


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