TimmyW, I'll have a wager with you.

Peels estimates are that in order to break even or their operations at MME, DSA and LPL based on current operational footprint - each needs to be handling:

MME - 550,000 PPA
DSA - 750,000 PPA
LPL - 3m PPA
LPL is doing fine tenth largest airport in UK over five million passengers per year
And more investment, with new airlines, plus work to start late summer:ok:

CAA Stats
 

Well thats the writing on the wall for some of us then! (Teesside MME)
As posted,14th June on DTV thread. Certainly not 550,000 PPA to break even!

Good luck DSA, I think you have a better chance than here up north :ok:

MME stats.
"CAA provisional stats for May 2012
13,628 passengers for the month, down 16.5%
175,058 passengers for the last 12 months, down 24.8%
8,406 passengers on the Amsterdam route, down 7%.

Livermouse, more investment/airlines for who? DSA, MME or LPL?

Peel airports portfolio also include Manchester City Airport and Heliport and the now defunct Sheffield City Airport or as it is now known Sheffield Business Park.

DSA and LPL are owned by Peel Airports Limited, which is 65% owned by Vantage Airport Group (formerly Vancouver Airport Services) and 35% by The Peel Group.

Although the Peel Group also owns Manchester City Airport and Durham Tees Valley Airport, they aren't part of Peel Airports Limited.

Its a Peel company.
 

A bit of Peel history and what they own according to them.

Historic timeline - The Peel Group

The Peel owner is now worth £2,075 million!

He lives in Billown Mansion on the Isle of Man :bored:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wh...r_(businessman)

Its all about land and not aviation with Peel.

Those pax figures needed to break even, how legitimate are they? For example, in 2009, Liverpool 5.1 million pax, £8.84 million loss I've seen reports of them hoping to secure their first profitable year of operations in 2008 but nothing subsequently declaring profits.

DONCASTER SHEFFIELD
 

Who are queenie airlines ????????

@Ringwayman - Those figures are based on every pax and every flight being in line with the fee schedules issues each year by each airport. EZY continues to get a good deal at LPL, so naturally, they aren't paying the fee schedule. In fact, I'd doubt anyone at LPL is.

Queenie Airlines.....Monarch maybe? They seem to be in expansion mode.

I asked that question yesterday and didnt get an answer.

DONCASTER SHEFFIELD
 

Another made up story then . And I get shot down for suggesting Monarch . But they ate as possible as anyone I guess . I did notice though that Bodrum seems to be listed as a destination on Thomson next summer , not sure if it is a current choice

It seems Bodrum was never removed from the booking system when searching for Doncaster flight / holidays after it was dropped as a destination for this summer season. It's not a current choice for DSA and is not currently planned for next summer either.

Doncaster Free Press to run a special report next week with regards to the decline and future of the airport.

Any Lourdes flights operating this year?

Lourdes
 

Yes this Sunday -1st July -

Peel snippet
 

If you would like more details on the Peel millions and how the publics cash is being given to them, have a look at the DTV thread to save adding it all here.

Makes you wonder just who they have on the inside at government level while running airports into the ground doesnt it :bored:

manchester City Airport
 

Is that "Barton"? If so, had no idea it was still open!

It's actually called City of Manchester airport by Peel so you do not to think it is connected with football. (Yes its still open, grass runways only)

From 'Travel Mole':

TUI increases holidays from South Yorkshire

TUI has announced it will offer more holidays from South Yorkshire following news of an improved road link between Doncaster Sheffield Airport and the centre of Sheffield.

TUI brands Thomson and First Choice will initially offer an extra 14,000 holidays from the airport for summer 2013.

Airport director Steve Gill said: "We expected the new road to bring additional benefits to the South Yorkshire passenger and with over 150,000 Thomson and First Choice holidays on offer from Doncaster Sheffield Airport in summer 2013 we are pleased that we remain Yorkshire"s largest operation for the company."

TUI has two Thomson Airways 737-800s based at the airport. Extra capacity will be offered next summer on flights to Palma, Dalaman and Reus.

Paul Cooper, from Thomson and First Choice, said: "The news that the Finningley and Rossington Regeneration Route Scheme link road has taken a step forward is something we have been waiting to hear for DSA.

"We are confident that this new road will open up key markets in Sheffield for us and help to attract passengers from the city."

The scheme includes the opening of a new link road from Junction 3 of the M18 serving the south-east of Doncaster, improving access to the airport from Sheffield, Rotherham and further afield.

The new road is expected to reduce journey times for airport passengers and cargo operators from Sheffield by up to 20 minutes.

Construction of the road is expected to start later this year and be operational in early 2014.

Good news for DSA at last, Especially with this been on the back of the Thomson's expansion from nearby LBA next year.

But isn't this just Thomson's adding extra capacity from DSA next summer by using 2x Boeing 737-800's instead of the current 1x Boeing 737-800 and 1x Boeing 737-300 this summer?

As I'm sure with a little bit of tweaking of schedule, the 3 extra weekly flights from DSA next summer can be slotted into the 2x based aircraft flying programmes without the need of w-legs.

It's good news either way it works!/

Doncaster currently have two 737-800 based there with the 737-300 doing a w-leg.

Ryanair won't be operating any flight out of DSA this winter.

Both Girona and Tenerife South will be axed.

Keyvon
Where did you get Ryanair info from ?.

It is correct. Ryanair have axed routes from DSA for the forseeable. More flights lost and more evidence to suggest DSA won't be a commercial airport for much longer.

DONCASTER SHEFFIELD
 

Change the record

DONCASTER/SHEFFIELD
 

So - the rumor is still circulating that Wizz are pulling out of DSA.

Expect an official announcement within the next week.

Question is - can DSA survive as a commercial airport once they are gone? It will mean Thomson the only operators this winter with around 10 flights per week. :sad:

End of the road - or is there a way back?

It would be nice to see Fuerteventura, Funchal and Larnaca as additional year-round destinations from Thomson, as well as Pula, Zakinthos, Bodrum and Heraklion for the summer season and Innsbruck plus Hurghada for the winter only (some of them have operated in the last years). Cape Verde is also increasing its popularity among UK holiday market..

Where Wizzair would go ? Do they intend to leave both L'pool and Donny for Manchester, looking for another price-war with Ryanair ? Sounds quite strange to me ...

And the we will soon see if Ryanair is gone for good...no sign of them returning for the next year...

The Wizz rumor has been there for a long, long time. And it seems they are going to start from MAN.

I have a friend who works for a South Yorkshire newspaper (I won't name which one on here), and they have been informed of the pull out and will be running a story on it shortly.

Also, the DSA Facebook page has had a few questions about the matter posted by potential passengers, only for them to be immediately deleted.

It also looks as though the small offerings from Ryanair and Flybe won't be returning next year, which will mean only Thomson and Thomas Cook offering any kind of services. I can't see either expanding or anyone else coming in to plug the gaps.

To be honest, I reckon that's what Peel/VAS or whoever is running the show want. DSA was never going to work, this way, the place can die a slow death and they'll use the excuse that the public didn't support the place.

They would be very silly to relocate their ops to MAN as they feature the SAME destinations offered by Ryanair, apart from Wroclaw, Poznan and Vilnius which are served from Liverpool, but the Irish could easily move all these ones to Manchester in a twinkling in order to tighten the competion with them...

They must have quite an ambitious plan to challenge their rivals...

I'm led to believe that Wizz wanted to stay at DSA.................

Wizz werre doing quite well at Dtva until VAS came along.

We do NOT allow other threads to be started when there is one already in existant.

here:http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...sheffield.html

Please remove your latest thread soonest.

PPP

Edit: Done

Pop - would it be perhaps be possible to move the posts in this duplicate thread to the main thread, so that the content from the above posts is not lost ?

Edit - on 2nd thoughts, given this duplicate thread seems to just be unsubstantiated rumour about Wizz leaving Doncaster, sourced by someone who seems to have been consistently negative about DSA's future prospects, maybe it's better if all the posts in this duplicate thread do get wiped, if only so that the main thread has verifiable content...

DONCASTER/SHEFFIELD
 

Yes and it might be worth noting , Adman , that this post is way off the mark given Wizzair are at DSA through this coming winter . Timmy W seems hell bent on posting posts of doom concerning DSA so perhaps this thread should just be closed

The other thread that was started should be posted into this one. Wizz Air are speculated to be leaving DSA, but to where ? To capitalise on OLT Express going bust in Poland, to MAN, or even to CWL ? Your guess is as good as mine ...

Why is it off the mark?
An announcment for Wizz starting at MAN is days away.

TW said,


Post 53 TW said
But they never did run the story, or those others from 2010. You have to ask why not?

We have to acknowledge the real possibility that its perhaps because he's making them up. It's good to see that Timmys 'source' who used to work for Peel in 2010, and gave him plenty of material to make Timmy look unbeliveably ill informed presumably has a new job, at Doncaster Free Press. And at least we should allow that Timmy has been consistant in the content and quality of his postings. You can take a large bet that whatever he says is going to appear in the local press, won't appear.

I was told today that a contract with a LoCo has in fact been signed very recently. So do I believe my 'source' who works at the airport, or do I believe Timmy's sources who appear to forget, (with regular monotony), to publish the stuff they tell him they're going to publish. Perhaps thats why the papers free, its so unreliable you wouldn't want to pay for it ...

It isn't free.

And a quick scour of these forums will suggest Wizz will be making a move to MAN.

When this new LoCo that you have stated doesn't happen, I'm sure i'll be quick to point out you were also incorrect.