partyboy_uk Could this mean that Monarch MIGHT come out with an profit for this year or I am being too optimistic

From what i can make out its very hard to work out what actually goes on, the group is privately owned by a very wealthy family and consists of various seperatecompanies airline ,engineering,travel etc and i guess cash is moved around the various areas to best advantage,

The other A320 OZBW has also now been registered.

From what i can make out its very hard to work out what actually goes on, the group is privately owned by a very wealthy family and consists of various seperate companies airline ,engineering,travel etc and i guess cash is moved around the various areas to best advantage,

This company is also part of the group and they have been investing in new ships
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Heard a Minhad bound A330 returned on full emergency yesterday. Now I would have expected this of a A300, but not A330.

Maybe the A330 was needed for mainline...

No big drama AFAIK , it returned to brize with a hydraulic problem, no doubt because it would be far easier to postion spares/engineers to brize than dubai, and it was not yesterday it was days ago,and shock horror even the best of machines go tits up now and again

Will Monarch be getting anyore aircraft for the summer schedule.:ok:

Yes.........

What will it or they be.

What actually is Monarch's long term strategy?

Looking at it from an outsider's point of view - It doesn't seem to ever show any sort of growth; or whenever it does, it seems to be a year or two behind the competition - for example their new routes to Italy and Turkey. Is there any place in this industry for an airline that doesn't grow?

Currently 30 aircraft offering a smattering of short and long haul leisure routes as well as ad-hoc seasonal charters such as the MoD and Hajj flights.

They recently cancelled their B787 order in order to concentrate on their short haul routes - why? The market for Monarch in Europe is pretty much saturated and easyJet and Ryanair already dominate.

The airline (not engineering) has struggled for profitability for many years - is this airline just an ego trip for the Mantegazza family? Will they continue to pump money in? Obviously Monarch has something going for it, with it being around for 40+ years.

It is 32 aircraft this summer and I understand the plan is 36 for Summer 13 and to be at 40 the year after that. That seems like expansion to me though obviously not on RYR and EZY scales

So what other aircraft will they be getting this year, there was a rumour they could be taking some tommy cook 757's on lease for the summer.

Although they have now got 2 more A320's, TOM actually retired three and the third one doesnt look like its going anywhere (OOPT) so maybe they will get that one too.

Dont forget if they need 36 aircraft for next summer then they will have to get 6 more between now and then as an A300 and an A320 are leaving at the end of the summer.

The only extra a/c for this summer are the two ex TOM A320, G-OZBW & G-OZBX, with G-OZBX due to operate its first flight this Sunday.

Just taken off now. Doing MAN-PMI

Any ideas when the other A320 is due in service?

Monarch Introduces MFlex
 

New MFlex:
2012 News - Flights - MFlex

Link doesnt work

Ive just clicked it and it fine. Bizzare.

Try 'Blog' on Monarch website.

Any Luck?
2012 News - Flights - MFlex

Having just been on Man Air Departures I noticed there's 2 ZB's to SSH within 30 mins of each other, the 684 @ 0900 & the 556 @ 0930. The 684 is an AB6, I'm no expert but wouldn't it have been easier from a business point of view to combine these flights rather than operate 2 scheds so close together or is there a greater load of pax travelling to egypt than what one AB6 can accomodate?

It would suggest good loads

Ian

MKY661
 

The second new A320 is due into service tomorrow.
The plan is for both new A320s to be based in BHX for the summer, with G-OZBX ferrying to BHX late tonight.
The second one is operating from MAN for the time being, but will end up in BHX shortly.

BHX
 

Mr @ Spotty M

Cheers for the information.

BHX goes from three based today to five tomorrow and six on 1st May.

BHX departures already show Sunday departures with ten flights including Venice, Rome & Milan new plus Palma & Paphos re-instated.

Monday sees Almeria and Dalaman restart and Mahon on Tuesday.

Quite a week and lets hope it works out well.

Pete

Yes the majority of the new routes start tomorrow and I hope it goes well.

The new routes should be working on flightradar24 as i did send then about two months ago, as long as they are not using random callsigns. :ok:

Anybody know when the A330 starts back on the Monday AGP?

Im not quite sure but I would imagine in May.

On a side note. MAN-VRN which was supposed to start today will now start on 2nd May

These new destinations are excellent, let's just hope they're not all on remote stands whilst Thomson bag the airbridges for themselves.

Thomson "bag them" cos they pay for them

I don't think there is any planned A330 AGP on a Monday (or any other day) this year. From 28/05/12-10/09/12 the A330 at MAN is due to position to CWL at 0630 to operate CWL-SFB. Also, the seat map on the Monarch website shows an A321 which it is due to operate on from 26/03/12-22/10/12.

Monarch are using the airbridges at MAN.

Monarch have a section on their website offering cheap deals on their new routes between now and mid-June. Judging by the prices, which are very reasonable, MON are not filling these routes as well as their established ones.

I think people place too much emphasis on airlines paying for airbridges. I'm pretty sure that many airports don't charge for airbridge equipment. Certainly at Easyjet there are places where airbridges are used religiously, sometimes, not very often and never at all.

I agree. I know airports where even Ryanair use them almost all the time. AGP is one of them. I also dont know any airports where Monarch refuse to use the airbridges.

I only made the point of airbridges as we all know T2 at Man isn't that big & whatwith RYR operating many destinations in the summer alongside TOM & MON & that's not including the US carriers who take up an airbridge for 2 hours at a time there might be a bit've a squeeze sometimes if everybody wants an airbridge, say in the early morning when there quite a lot of departures,MON alone have 14 ZB's leaving Man throughout the day today.

But of course RYR don`t use T2 now they use T3 as of early March
and there are only US Air,United and Delta on T3

Ian

SSH flights
 

Regarding EGCC7955 and chaps2011's discussion about the two SSH flights at 0900 and 0930, I've done boarding for the 2 SSH flights in the past 2 days (Sunday/Monday) and both were 100% full. I think the aircraft has a config of 347 and both flights had 347 and 351 (including infants) so were incredibly busy. The demand is certainly there for those flights, the Alicante and Tenerife flights at the moment are also doing very well and I've only seen about 3/4 seats available at most for the past few days.

Monarch do you use most of the airbridge stands first thing in the morning, we had 7 flights leaving this morning and they were all on the airbridges and all were very busy apart from PMI.

Ive heard bookings are very solid and its looks at present like MON have taken over T2 !
Where are the crew offices now located are thry near the MON engineers on stand 214?

My nephew asked me a question about the new ZB routes & I have to say I didn't know so I thought I'd ask it here. He asked would the aircraft receive a fire service salute as they're a new sched operator or won't they as they've already served these destinations as charters?
I know I'll get the 'does it really matter?" but hey-ho, does anybody know the answer?

jamesferns - sorry, can't help you there, I have no idea where the crew offices are.

EGCC7955 - as far as I know, I've not heard or seen any salutes for the new routes, they seem to have started well though. Bookings atm across all the flights in the morning seem to be very solid, virtually every flight has been full.