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MKY661 16th Feb 2012 18:10


Wonder where there going , i would imagine they may end up freighters, im sure they are in excellent cond considering their age as monarch do seem to look after their aircraft very well
it says 'for disposal' so i assume they are getting scrapped :(


Jethro has the wrong A306 leaving..Smart money is on NR.
If it is this i will email them and tell them that its NR who is going.

Also acording to Jethro it will be PCD or ZBB who will also leave, both of which have also been with Monarch since they were built. Dont understand why they want to get rid of an A320 when they are just about to get some.

New T2 Office 16th Feb 2012 19:59

MKY661

Its all to do with leasing costs.............we just drive them, its far too complicated for me to understand the complexities of these issues, we leave that to the bean counters!!!!!!!!!!!!

fmgc 16th Feb 2012 20:08


because the airline is in dire straits (which it most probably is)
It is actually doing very well at the moment, sales and yields are doing very well.


What's to stop Monarch having A319's or even A318's at SEN
You mean apart from the fact that they do not have A319s or A318s.

jethro15 16th Feb 2012 20:29


Jethro has the wrong A306 leaving..Smart money is on NR.
Correct. I put the remark in the wrong row!. Now corrected

SCANDIC 17th Feb 2012 15:03

Whay will they replace the big buses with, i reckon it will ba a couple of 767's.

NEastMidlands 17th Feb 2012 15:08


i reckon it will ba a couple of 767's.
nothing bigger but think smaller

adfly 17th Feb 2012 16:09

A310's? :}

renort 17th Feb 2012 17:08

Little known fact is MON came very close to leasing 2 310-300's a few years back, glad that didn't happen. Can't see the AB6's being replaced with anything remotely similar.

jamesferns 17th Feb 2012 17:29

Imagine that, getting shot of the 300 only to get a 310:eek::eek:

NEastMidlands 18th Feb 2012 11:51


A310
Thinking A320/1NEO or B737NG

Monarch_Pilot67 18th Feb 2012 14:02

In my opinion Monarch would go for small aircraft since there market is in the short/medium haul and the fact now that most routes that they serve dont need a big aircraft to fly it in! :)

La Amistad 18th Feb 2012 14:58

Their market...

sunshine79 20th Feb 2012 13:46

Does anyone know where the A300's are flying to from MAN during the summer?

MKY661 20th Feb 2012 18:37

Palma, Sharm el Sheikh, Tenerife, Larnaca & Paphos definate. Will possibly be doing Malaga, & Lanzarote as well. All will operate from MAN & LGW only except for Saturday where there is the MAN-PMI-LTN-PMI-MAN again.

sunshine79 20th Feb 2012 18:45

Thanks for the info. I was hoping it would be operating a Greek route. I did find an A300 on the MAN-AGP route when I was messing around at work this afternoon.

allosaurus 20th Feb 2012 18:46

A300 routes
 
Going nowhere.there all!!!!!!!! tech

partyboy_uk 20th Feb 2012 19:04

Just got my hands on a summer schedule. Here are the A300 routes from MAN:

MON

MAN/DLM ZB664/5
MAN/CFU MON1828/9
MAN/DLM ZB668/9

TUE

MAN/PMI ZB532/3
MAN/TFS ZB564/5
MAN/TFS 568/9

WED

MAN/LCA ZB640/1
MAN/PFO ZB634/5

THUR

MAN/SSH ZB684/5

FRI
MAN/PMI ZB532/3
MAN/TFS ZB564/5
MAN/TFS ZB568/9
MAN/DLM ZB662/3

SAT

MAN/AGP ZB654/5
MAN/SSH ZB684/5
MAN/PMI ZB534/5

SUN

MAN/AGP ZB654/5
MAN/PVK MON5642/3
MAN/FAO ZB594/5
MAN/PMI ZB534/5

sunshine79 20th Feb 2012 19:36

Partyboy,

Thank you, I can plan my summer hols now. I'm determined to fly a new a/c this year and best go on a A300 whilst I can do

MKY661 20th Feb 2012 19:46

MAN - AGP will also be operated by an A330 like last summer, which will be on a Monday

AP1995 20th Feb 2012 21:09

anybody know if monarch will be operating the A330 to ALC again?

partyboy_uk 20th Feb 2012 21:18


Originally Posted by MKY661
MAN - AGP will also be operated by an A330 like last summer, which will be on a Monday

Not sure if the seat map is quite right on that one. I think the A330 based at MAN will be doing CWL/SFB on a Monday... unless this is the A330 from LGW.


Originally Posted by AP1995
anybody know if monarch will be operating the A330 to ALC again?

Not from MAN, not sure about LGW

shamrock7seal 21st Feb 2012 04:32

Potential niche routes in BOH
 
What is the liklihood of Monarch considering opening scheduled niche routes from BOH? Since they operated out of NQY are they now totally against second tier regional airports?

Open niche routes from BOH with statistical demand according to CAA O&D stats include: Gibralter, Funchal, Innsbruck, Venice, Rome, Almeria, Heraklion, Orlando, Barbados, Cancun, Barcelona (sorry for the mixup, no order of demand)

MKY661 21st Feb 2012 19:31

Does anyone know what is going on with the MAN - GIB route? First of all they put it seasonal and now we have just had to cancel three of our flights as they are now only doing it on a Monday and Friday this summer!

It looks like Monarch are sticking to their advert "Fly one way from only £35" as they have cancelled our flight coming back :{

Leonard320 21st Feb 2012 20:27

It seems MAN-GIB, Like LTN-GIB will be done on some sort of W pattern, I can't see it loaded in the web currently but that's what it seems to be.

Pass on what the schedule will look like in full but I'd of though if correct LTN or MAN will have some unfamiliar times this year.

Time will tell.

paully 22nd Feb 2012 10:42

GIB
 
There was an article in the Gib Chronicle last Saturday, I think, and Monarch had been questioned about their comittment to this route. They said that both routes to Gibraltar would run through next winter and although not presently available to book, would be shortly.

We shall see. Although I use EZY through Liverpool usually at half the price of Monarch so that must be having an effect

NCLairport 22nd Feb 2012 19:41

Does anyone know if Monarch are leasing a 757 to Thomas Cook for the summer season to base at NCL? :rolleyes:

Buster the Bear 22nd Feb 2012 20:03

There is a nice light blue ex Zoom/Fly Star one sat on the ground at Lasham doing nowt.

janeyTA 22nd Feb 2012 21:09

Just out of curiosity do Monarch use the A300 to Sanford at all, or is it always the A330's?

BlueA330 22nd Feb 2012 21:42

The A300 has only been used for Sanford when the A330's are out of action

TheQuietLife 22nd Feb 2012 23:02

Given that they can only use the A320, and not the A321, on the GIB route that is my thinking for why it is always quite late in the process that the flights to GIB get finalised.

It has been the same at every single season change I can remember. And given the current limited competition, they can be quite flexible with the plans to enable them to maximise their return from the frame in other areas.
[They are after all the airline which has the best timed flight departure exGIB and have been for some time (post 5pm Friday departure).]

Fed up with all the rumour mongers trying to read stuff into it, this has been the case every season change. The key indicator is how many services they offer and how that varies over the period. They are not going to drop the routes.

janeyTA 23rd Feb 2012 08:14

BlueA330, thank you. Pardon my ignorance but can the A300's do UK to Sanford non stop?

MANTFS 23rd Feb 2012 08:22

The Gib I believe is running in a W pattern from Ltn as there are no 320's based in Man this year.
Timings will Be roughly Ltn Gib 0730 1000 Gib Man 1045 1345 Man Gib 1445 1745 Gib Ltn 1830 2100

Cazza_fly 23rd Feb 2012 09:06


BlueA330, thank you. Pardon my ignorance but can the A300's do UK to Sanford non stop?
Yes the A300 can do the UK to Sanford non-stop. However, in Monarch's high-density config it can usually struggle with payload, so a fuel stop in Bangor would normally be the case.

T6NL 23rd Feb 2012 10:53

The LTN-GIB-MAN-GIB-LTN will run on Mondays and Fridays throughout the summer as follows:

ZB068 LTN-GIB 0715-1110
ZB575 GIB-MAN 1155-1350
ZB574 MAN-GIB 1455-1855
ZB063 GIB-LTN 1940-2125

Times are all LOCAL and may change slightly for operational reasons. LTN-GIB-LTN will also operate on Tuesdays, Wednesdays & Sundays.

janeyTA 23rd Feb 2012 12:02


Yes the A300 can do the UK to Sanford non-stop. However, in Monarch's high-density config it can usually struggle with payload, so a fuel stop in Bangor would normally be the case.
Thank you!

BlueA330 23rd Feb 2012 13:47

The 757 was deployed on the LTN-GIB route at one time

squeaker 23rd Feb 2012 14:20

Decent brakes!

MKY661 23rd Feb 2012 15:49


The LTN-GIB-MAN-GIB-LTN will run on Mondays and Fridays throughout the summer as follows:

ZB068 LTN-GIB 0715-1110
ZB575 GIB-MAN 1155-1350
ZB574 MAN-GIB 1455-1855
ZB063 GIB-LTN 1940-2125

Times are all LOCAL and may change slightly for operational reasons. LTN-GIB-LTN will also operate on Tuesdays, Wednesdays & Sundays.
Well this will be different when I fly to GIB :) The schedule takes place from 4th May by the way.

Wonder why they have decided not to base an A320 in MAN this year? Will an A321 replace it maybe?

TartinTon 24th Feb 2012 17:20

MOD Contracts

Buster the Bear 24th Feb 2012 22:21

Fly Star now Monarch


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