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GAZMO 25th Nov 2014 17:32

Thanks Mart901. I suppose it depends on many factors. Just received email from BEE advertising flight at 24.99 (£50 return) Checked EZY website for next year and can same deal (£50)
Wonder if BEE to LPL will lead to a decline on their MAN service?

eye2eye5 25th Nov 2014 17:52

BHD - LPL
 
CAA statistics suggest 195k passengers routed BHD - LPL in 2010, falling to 73k in 2011 when the route ceased. A significant market to go for. As to how many of those passengers moved to MAN, I suggest Flybe will know.

All names taken 25th Nov 2014 18:20

BE are frequently cheaper than EZY, they seem to be starting at about £50 return,BE are frequently cheaper than EZY, they seem to be starting at about £50 return,

Over the countless times I've done MAN to Belfast (All), BE have never been cheaper than EZY.
People tend to pay the extra for the frequency and convenience with BE (as I have done). If these new LPL flights end up in a reduction in MAN frequency, they will lose their main competitive advantage and just dilute existing business.

mart901 25th Nov 2014 18:37

There's always more than one way to skin a cat and offering flights from MAN and LPL is one of them, they are only doing what EZY have done to them in reverse. LPL pax do seem to have favoured EZY over the years but BE are a lot more competitive of late and seem more aggressive.

EI-BUD 25th Nov 2014 18:53

Stats Belfast Liverpool
 
What is really interesting about the Belfast/ Liverpool route is that when FR came into the market, with the very lowest of fares with £1 each way no taxes and charges, they were carrying as many and more passengers on the route from BHD than EZY were carrying from BFS.

Equally, EZY still managed very strong numbers on the BFS link, falling back but nonetheless the market overall market size was massively grown, MAN ex BHD was doing quite well too at that time.

The demand is there, and if you take the LPL market size ex BHD compared to other UK routes, BHD LPL has every chance of delivering strongly for BE.

EI-BUD

SealinkBF 25th Nov 2014 21:29

I remember reading years ago about how FR have a curious affect of growing some markets. In fact, if EI had realised this when FR started a Dublin - London route, EI could have finished them. What happened was that EI competed on price but with same frequency, so just weakened their own position, while FR just grew and grew by piling on capacity, which, history shows, the route seems to handle!

Una Due Tfc 25th Nov 2014 21:51

The Irish government forcing EI to stop their DUB-STN flights also played a role in FR's early survival

mart901 26th Nov 2014 16:07

GLA going up to 5 daily from same date as LPL.

stab3.5up 26th Nov 2014 18:03

TRANSAVIA FRANCE starting a ORY-DUB any chance on onewonders of BHD or BFS?

EI-BUD 26th Nov 2014 19:11

Dear oh dear, An AF company launching competition in the Paris Dublin route against Cityjet.

I'd be surprised if FR sit back and watch another loco come into the Irish market.

As for HV France coming to Belfast, would surprise me if they show up at BFS. EI and BE came onto the route together in 2008, they didn't last long and all carriers suffered on the route.

Cozy F 26th Nov 2014 19:49

Yep - you can almost sense the feeling of agitation welling up in FR.

Could get interesting. :)

True Blue 24th Dec 2014 23:27

If I book a British airways code share flight to gatwick on EI, is a checked bag included or do I still have to pay a bag charge? When I did thi s previously out of Bfs to lhr the bag was included as BA baggage rules applied, now it is not as clear on the BA site.

Tb

keep_er_lit 27th Dec 2014 15:17

Anyone have any thoughts what would happen to EI in BHD if IAG take over? Would they keep things the way they are at the minute or pull EI out? Maybe even pull BA out and let EI operate all flights.

mart901 30th Dec 2014 12:50

Great results on LCY going up to 4 daily. Bet BE are glad they tried it!

AIRPORT66 30th Dec 2014 17:52

airport66
 
Another incident involving a Flybe dash aircraft this time at Bhd.

Cozy F 30th Dec 2014 18:10

Yet another Flybe engine fire!!?

ILS25 30th Dec 2014 19:04

Flymaybe!!

speedrestriction 30th Dec 2014 19:35

Smoke indication in the cargo hold. The detectors are necessarily sensitive and spurious activations are not uncommon on many aircraft types.

BFS BHD 6th Jan 2015 11:03

***NEW AIRLINE AND ROUTE***

KLM Cityhopper to start a daily service from AMS-BHD in S15.

KLM947 AMS-BHD - 10:00-10:40
KLM948 BHD-AMS - 11:40-13:50

To be operated by Fokker 70.

Begins Monday 18th May 2015.

:D

BHD2BFS 6th Jan 2015 11:09

Great new!

1 question though.... Is there enough checkin desks with both KLM and Vueling both departing on same days?


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