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mart901 18th Dec 2016 16:53

Air Iceland will be year round service. So up against EZY over winter months for point to point. Nevertheless good we have 2 carriers on such a route.

cessnarocket 18th Dec 2016 18:10

I see the operation hours must be totally out the window several Flybe now scheduled to land past 2130 in the summer months, perhaps this is subject to change?

AerRyan 18th Dec 2016 18:12


Originally Posted by mart901 (Post 9613484)
Air Iceland will be year round service. So up against EZY over winter months for point to point. Nevertheless good we have 2 carriers on such a route.

Icelandair*

CaptainDoony 18th Dec 2016 18:17


Icelandair*
Operated by Air Iceland*

mart901 18th Dec 2016 18:37

Indeed CaptainDoony, and the flights from your airport take 5 mins less and I notice no problems.

CaptainDoony 18th Dec 2016 19:49

Yes not a diversion or all engines out glide yet!

ILS25 22nd Dec 2016 11:45

New owners announced.

Sold: George Best Belfast City Airport has a new owner - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Startledgrapefruit 2nd Jan 2017 15:33

About time !!!
 
http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/minister-backs-inquiry-calls-to-end-seat-sales-limit-at-belfast-city-airport-35335671.html

Here we go with the sour grapes and mud slinging.

ILS25 2nd Jan 2017 20:29


Originally Posted by Startledgrapefruit (Post 9627636)
http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/minister-backs-inquiry-calls-to-end-seat-sales-limit-at-belfast-city-airport-35335671.html

Here we go with the sour grapes and mud slinging.

The seats for sale cap was a daft idea from the outset.

panpanpanpan 3rd Jan 2017 08:46

If I remember correctly, the seats for sale limit was in place for the old cattle shed that used to be a terminal and was related to fire safety. How it transferred over to the new modern facility that was built I have no idea!

Lets hope the noise monitoring system doesn't rely on data from the radar as it appears broken more often than not by the rate of notams recently.

Startledgrapefruit 3rd Jan 2017 09:25


Originally Posted by panpanpanpan (Post 9628261)
If I remember correctly, the seats for sale limit was in place for the old cattle shed that used to be a terminal and was related to fire safety. How it transferred over to the new modern facility that was built I have no idea!

Lets hope the noise monitoring system doesn't rely on data from the radar as it appears broken more often than not by the rate of notams recently.

It's based on info from two stations at Kinnegar and Nettlefield.

ILS25 3rd Jan 2017 12:35

Belfast City Airport's 2m seat sale limit to be lifted - BBC News

AerRyan 15th Jan 2017 20:06

Aer Lingus switching slots with Shannon from the end of March. First departure to Heathrow now at 8:45am.

A320.b744 15th Jan 2017 21:08

International Routes: Passenger Numbers
 
Aer Lingus routes have done well in 2016, although passenger numbers will fall next year given Aer Lingus have reduced frequencies on all routes.

Malaga: 67,618 (76% LF) up 24.2%
Faro: 67,151 (75% LF) up 13.7%
Palma: 29,135 (76% LF) up 253.8%
Alicante: 28,669 (75% LF) new route

Despite December stats being out, BHD flights to BRU and AMS are unavailable, but passenger numbers up to November are as follows;

Amsterdam: 38,379 (LF between 72% (0J 80Y) and 78% (9J 65Y) depending on configuration). Average 57 seats per flight.
Brussels: 18,065 (LF approx 55%). Average 52 seats per flight.

With December figures included, Amsterdam will most likely surpass 40,000 which isn't bad for the first full year of operations. The replacement of the Fokker 70 with the 88 seat E175 by October will add up to 10,000 extra seats next year, allowing the route to expand. I can't see a second daily flight being added, however, unless load factors exceed 85-90%.

Even though the Brussels flight had a rough start due to the Brussels Airport bombing several days before flights commenced, passenger numbers are pretty pathetic (Vueling cancelled BCN with approx 65% LF). And to make matters worse, SN are planning on retiring the BAe 146 within the next year, replacing it with an A319 which is an increase of over 50 seats per flight. Unless BMI Regional operate the flight with ERJ145s or SN start a huge ad campaign, I can't see the route lasting.

koninckske 16th Jan 2017 07:22

Brussels Airlines
 
Expect the RJ100 to be replaced by a SSJ100 operated by Cityjet and not an A319.

A320.b744 16th Jan 2017 11:34

Oh yes I forgot about that... It's nice that one 'rare' aircraft type will be replaced by another unusual specimen, instead of reverting to the all too common A320 family.

dantheflyboy 25th Jan 2017 11:51

Boots retail unit closure.
 
I have just been informed the Boots retail outlet airside bhd is to close in March. Reason given is they refuse to pay the large increase of rent imposed by the airport. Business is Business but I will miss this store for the good value food offering when compared to the other outlets airside, not to mention handy availability of last minute chemist needs.
A shame that a compromise couldn't of been found as nobody is a winner here, the passengers lose a service, airport lose rental income and boots are having to lay off staff. I can't imagine there is a queue of other retailers waiting to occupy such a small space.

tigger2k8 25th Jan 2017 13:37


Boots retail unit closure.
I have just been informed the Boots retail outlet airside bhd is to close in March. Reason given is they refuse to pay the large increase of rent imposed by the airport. Business is Business but I will miss this store for the good value food offering when compared to the other outlets airside, not to mention handy availability of last minute chemist needs.
A shame that a compromise couldn't of been found as nobody is a winner here, the passengers lose a service, airport lose rental income and boots are having to lay off staff. I can't imagine there is a queue of other retailers waiting to occupy such a small space.
Same happened in BFS maybe, 5 years ago? Superdrug was quick to come across.. if the demand is there, someone will fill the spot

Cozy F 25th Jan 2017 18:42

Has SN thrown in the towel on BHD Brussels? Gone from the booking system end of March .. ��

El Bunto 25th Jan 2017 19:13


Has SN thrown in the towel on BHD Brussels? Gone from the booking system end of March ..
Bookable again from 31 October 2017 onwards. Also customers with existing bookings for Summer travel have not received cancellation notices. Might be something to do with the Superjet wet-lease?

BFS watcher 27th Jan 2017 16:19

December CAA stats
 
Looks like BHD down 6% in December. New shareholders wont be happy!

DC9_10 27th Jan 2017 16:46

Has Brussels been axed. Tried booking flights for my brother in April and nothing coming up. Going from Dublin now.

A320.b744 27th Jan 2017 19:21


Originally Posted by DC9_10 (Post 9655632)
Has Brussels been axed. Tried booking flights for my brother in April and nothing coming up. Going from Dublin now.

This has been discussed already - see previous page. Flights are no longer on sale for the Summer season, but are back on sale from October. It's possibly something to do with the RJ100s being retired before the Cityjet SSJ contract begins.

DC9_10 27th Jan 2017 19:47

Just spoke to a mate who works on the ramp. Apparently it's cancelled.

AerRyan 27th Jan 2017 19:51

My experience with alot of employees at airports is that although they do have alot of knowledge, it can often be slightly off, for example, cancelled could well be cancelled for the summer.

Generally only the people in the management area will be able to tell you the real story.

DC9_10 27th Jan 2017 19:55

In my experience, no airline would cancel a fledgling marginal route in the peak spring and summer months to reinstate in long winter months at the end of the year.

AerRyan 28th Jan 2017 00:42

An airline with an aircraft shortage might.

A320.b744 28th Jan 2017 01:18

I agree. The RJ100s are being retired at a faster rate than the A319s, A320s and SSJ100s are being delivered. Though I must admit it's strange that SN would retire its RJs before having the capacity to operate a full schedule, especially during the summer season.

The fact that flights are on sale for the winter season would strongly suggest that the route's not being scrapped completely.

BHD2BFS 28th Jan 2017 09:26

Maybe flybe could cover the route for them?
Large flybe base with crew already trained on the product... Makes sense

rutankrd 28th Jan 2017 09:29

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I agree. The RJ100s are being retired at a faster rate than the A319s, A320s and SSJ100s are being delivered. Though I must admit it's strange that SN would retire its RJs before having the capacity to operate a full schedule, especially during the summer season.
In addition to the Whisper Jets being removed dear old Lufthansa are acquiring 100% stake and will be moving the SN brand under the Eurowings umbrella.

Many changes and operational reviews coming at Zaventem over the next few months.

Startledgrapefruit 28th Jan 2017 10:05


Originally Posted by BFS watcher (Post 9655619)
Looks like BHD down 6% in December. New shareholders wont be happy!

And I bet you got a little damp when you saw that BFS watcher.

mart901 28th Jan 2017 10:30

The BHD figures have to be taken in context. For one thing around 17,000 less pax that were using LGW. Several key routes BHX, MAN and the Scottish ones have grown nicely, despite EZY. LPL is core EZY territory and despite BE doing well for a while EZY will guard it well, especially with FR on the scene.

cuthere 31st Jan 2017 14:13

Confirmed. City to Brussels flight is cancelled. Happy belated Christmas DC_7493837 and BFS Watcher (who won't have noticed as they watch BFS.....apparently).

Brussels was always going to be a hard sell as the terrorism that Belgium has experienced would (ironically) put a lot of people in Northern Ireland off.

GAZMO 31st Jan 2017 18:32

Pity to see any European route go, but Brussels airport incident probably put a lot of people off. However I thought it would have bounced back, just like Paris

Wonder if any other airline will try

DC9_10 31st Jan 2017 18:41

To suggest Cutters, anyone would be gloating over the loss of a route, especially due to terrorism is definitely scrapping the bottom of the barrel, even for you.

GAZMO 31st Jan 2017 19:12

Brussels flight cancelled, BBC NI link

Belfast City Airport: Brussels Airlines ends service - BBC News

El Bunto 20th Feb 2017 08:41

KLM have changed the times for the Sunday flight from Amsterdam, now scheduled to arrive in Belfast at 10:10 and away again 10:40. Not quite early enough to catch the third departure wave from Schiphol, though, but should be fine for the fourth at ~ 14:00.

mart901 20th Feb 2017 10:16

When's that effective to/from?

El Bunto 20th Feb 2017 14:14

As of yesterday, apparently. Also as of today Brussels Airlines have axed the Monday service, confirmed on their online timetable.

mart901 12th Mar 2017 21:40

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