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Andrew R 22nd Apr 2012 12:00

Are you allowed to plane spot from Ikeas carpark still?

dog in park 22nd Apr 2012 12:22

as long as you dont take a spotters strop if asked to move five feet Ikea are fine. check out ni aviation fourm on the interweb

dog in park 23rd Apr 2012 19:33

well nothing today as expected. Ikea spotters said EI are off to city once contract with BFS expires HA HA HA HA HA. they say they have been in. :E

EI-BUD 23rd Apr 2012 19:42

dog in the park; AerLingus staying firmly put at BFS..the base is performing well.

Though still no winter schedule for continental european routes... I would suggest that LHR route situation and BA are part of that story.........

EI-BUD

dog in park 23rd Apr 2012 19:47

just saying what the spotters said.

EI-BUD 23rd Apr 2012 19:55

dog in the park; where or what exactly did the 'spotter' say, I must have missed something. I would suggest that even if a spotter surmised that Aer Lingus are unlikely to move that may be a fair suggestion. The majority of us in the industry often dont know any more than some of the spotters who know a thing or two about things!

Even if AerLingus were for moving and negotiating with BHD, the limitations around early closure would be big impact for flying program especially Tenerife, Lanzarote.

Bmibaby European routes seem to be getting good loads, good to see that BHD can command a fair share of the market. Next CAA stats will make for interesting reading.

tigger2k8 24th Apr 2012 10:55

I doubt we will see EI move its base out of BFS as EI-BUD has said BHD has too many limitations for them and EI has stated the base performs very well.. but...

I could see BA pulling out of BHD and EI running a couple of BHD-LHR flights under the codeshare, that way BA is still keeping by their word of retaining the link between BHD-LHR..

Its anyones guess as to what will happen, as we have seen in the last few years there have been quite a few surprises

EI-BUD 24th Apr 2012 11:55


I could see BA pulling out of BHD and EI running a couple of BHD-LHR flights under the codeshare, that way BA is still keeping by their word of retaining the link between BHD-LHR..


Tigger thank you for your post, I always value your contribution. I have said it before and remain committed to my view on the matter. BA are not interested in point to point domestic traffic, they are interested in the interlining opportunity. Belfast differs from the other domestic points in that AerLingus are on the case. I cant see BA having a long term interest in the Belfast market due to the saturation of operations by low cost airlines. Yes this is also the same at GLA, EDI, etc but they dont have an alternative airline flying into LHR that could feed passengers to the network.

It comes as no coincidence that AerLingus have not finalised the winter BFS Europe schedule, I feel that Aer Lingus are looking at LHR to EDI and ABZ. The airline who fills this slots has to interline with BA, and why would BA not want an existing ally onto these routes, codesharing? Giving Aer Lingus Belfast Heathrow in its entirity, plus preserving the relationship between ORK SNN DUB and LHR and the valuable feed into long haul. Many have commented that it is not substantial but it is substantial enough. BA dont need to fly these routes and can still get feed into long haul.

I dont suppose EI can afford to leave European routes much longer to release into booking system.

EI-BUD

flying officer kite 24th Apr 2012 12:08

reference BA keeping their word, was Willie Walsh not quoted as saying he (BA) intended to return to NI. He wouldnt have said that if he was planning on only using Aer Lingus, who have been operating as a code share for quite some time.

I must admit i hold the cynical view that BA may not last long here, but i hope im proven wrong.

Also worth noting that Aer Lingus fly 3 or 4 times a day, and BMI about 6 or so times, so unless Aer Lingus have surplus aircraft sitting about theres a big gap in the market if BA dont operate here

rowly6339 24th Apr 2012 20:23

Who does the man flight out of harbour these days? I used to use this service 5-6 times a year and never had any problems and always thought it was a great little airport,and right next to city unlike aldergrove.

sealink 25th Apr 2012 05:09

Flybe operate MAN

dog in park 26th Apr 2012 16:57

NEWS!
 
BBC News - Willie Walsh says Belfast to London Heathrow route safe

BELHold 26th Apr 2012 17:31

It doesn't mention which Airport though, what it says is Belfast not specifically BHD.

ALLMCC 26th Apr 2012 17:32

Crucially however, he doesn't say which Belfast airport BA will operate the route from!

BAladdy 26th Apr 2012 17:40


Crucially however, he doesn't say which Belfast airport BA will operate the route from!
BA are working hard to merge BD into there mainline operation before the end of October. BA are planning to release there W12 schedule in June. So it might be 6 to 8 weeks before we find out if it will be BFS or BHD.

BFS101 26th Apr 2012 22:46

From today's NI Travel News email. I've quoted only part of the article.


Speaking in Londonderry today IAG Chief Willie Walsh confirmed that the Belfast City to Heathrow route would continue. He said it was a very important point-to-point service and also for the number of onward connections made through Heathrow. He added that British Airways would now be selling Belfast on its worldwide network.

rowly6339 26th Apr 2012 22:49

If right then that is good news.

tigger2k8 26th Apr 2012 22:57

BBC News - Willie Walsh says Belfast to London Heathrow route safe

BBC has no mention of BHD, just Belfast - Heathrow .. guess it will be a case of sitting tight and seeing what happens, neither article mentions if it will be using BA aircraft or not

Skipness One Echo 27th Apr 2012 00:07

From the BBC article

In 2001, BA pulled out of its London Heathrow to Belfast route with the loss of 160 jobs.
One hundred and sixty people? To handle ~ 8 A320s on LHR-BFS a day and the J41s and ATPs of British Regional? I think I see why it fell into the red....

dog in park 27th Apr 2012 07:33

Yet more news
 
BA boss: Flights tax could put Belfast to Heathrow at risk - Business News, Business - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk


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