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EI-BUD 29th Jan 2012 20:05


As for the Ryanair saga, my source says City management always said although Ryanair put large numbers of punters through the doors, it wasn't a proportionally high part of the profits. Not sure whether Mr A. or Belfast Tele is putting some spin on things
Given that all of Ryanair's routes were new routes from the airport (and STN was being vacated by AirBerlin) I would imagine that the city airport gave Ryanair a very attractive deal for 3 years on landing charges. Hence the reason why Ryanair didnt go after existing routes from the airport e.g. in competition with other carriers directly, as these most likely would not have been incentivised. However, while its probably true that FR ops weren't a big proportion of BHD profits, the volume of passengers probably assisted well in supporting the other businesses around the airport, the shops the cafes etc etc.

Given recent profits or lack thereof, I would imagine the City airport would be glad to have them back and enjoy whatever marginal return they could get from them.




I would say that Ryanair's presence added little to the bottom line of the airport, and given that each route was a 'new' route from the airport (well given that AB was pulling STN it probably was a case for an incentivised rate)

speedrestriction 30th Jan 2012 09:33

I believe the HB has been us for four years now. Personally I rue the disappearance of locators, apart from use as approach aids they are invaluable for SA.

BFS BHD 31st Jan 2012 20:45

New airline
 
New airline for belfast city soon. (Lufthansa Regional)
All i can say atm. :E

BFS101 1st Feb 2012 14:01

Excellent, would be very welcome. Another full service carrier option from NI, and to allow interlining but avoiding LHR. Fingers crossed!

NorthernCounties 1st Feb 2012 14:13

I think saying that it is going to be Lufthansa Regional has said it all already. It's hardly going to be to Berlin or Munich. If they're coming, it'll be some small size jet... i.e. E190 and the destination will be Frankfurt. It could be nothing else. (Unless its a larger aircraft.)

Can't wait to see them at the airport, will provide some well needed onward connections from NI! Hope the timings are good! :ok:

EI-BUD 1st Feb 2012 17:40

Can't see why it couldn't be a weekly Munich flight and this could be sustained into the winter for Ski season, Aer Lingus did Munich ex BFS and it didnt last long though many of the flights had good loads, some very poor, but perhaps with a more appropriate sized aircraft who knows.

Dusseldorf also, if NI is marketed in the appropriate way it would be great to think that the Germans would come here.

Separately, as LH know or have access to the bmi stats on how many pax flew BHD LHR and on to German cities, LH may be making a very well informed decision about what may/may not work for them ex BHD.

Exciting news if true.
EI-BUD

sarcon 2nd Feb 2012 19:04

I hear from a good source that the German route will happen. It is not however Lufty in any of their guises. It will not offer any interlining ops, sorry.

JSCL 2nd Feb 2012 19:11

Not even Germanwings?

Didn't think the route would work without interlining available..

BHD2BFS 2nd Feb 2012 19:37

Air Berlin?

EI-BUD 2nd Feb 2012 19:50

AirBerlin, can't see them coming back since their last stint. Though unless its a Q400 I cant see any of AB's other types being a runner.

Germanwings would make a little more sense than AB given the LH/BD/WW link....

EI-BUD

sim737 5th Feb 2012 11:03

Bhd
 
I think u have all got it wrong about a new airline for bhd and it being lufthansa. Check ryanairs website go to careers then cabin crew and have a look at were they are recruiting for

david1994 5th Feb 2012 11:12


I think u have all got it wrong about a new airline for bhd and it being lufthansa. Check ryanairs website go to careers then cabin crew and have a look at were they are recruiting for
That has always been there since then have left. It has been took off the website and put back on many time. Its also remained on the ryanair routemap for up to 1 year after they left.

eastern wiseguy 5th Feb 2012 11:15


Where will I be working?

We are principally recruiting for bases in the following countries
UK (London - Stansted, Liverpool, Glasgow - Prestwick, East Midlands, Luton, Bristol, Bournemouth and Belfast)


So they are coming to Aldergrove then?:E

Big runway....no conflict with the local carriers (to Germany). Ticks the boxes:p:p

david1994 5th Feb 2012 11:23

NO its has always been there. Aldergrove has always sait is does NOT want Ryanair at BFS because they keep asking for the fee's to be cut by 60 percemt.

eastern wiseguy 5th Feb 2012 11:29

david1994

Checklist

Sense of humour...........installed

Sense of humour...........Check selected ON


Lighten up young fella:ok:

david1994 5th Feb 2012 11:39

I was only making the point as I work at the airport.

eastern wiseguy 5th Feb 2012 11:41

Well snap..me too....since 1985...:hmm:

sim737 5th Feb 2012 12:04

Bhd
 
When is there an announcement due from bhd regarding new airline and what makes some of u so sure its a german airlind it seems funny the cabin crew advertisement on ryanair website and then mr ambreose comnents aswell seems funny to me

eastern wiseguy 5th Feb 2012 12:15

I will be honest. I do NOT see Ryanair back in NI (except CODA) anytime soon.

One thing that BHD needs is someting to improve their dreadful bottom line. Bmi Baby aren't going to do it.....Ryanair certainly didn't do it.

Here's a question for you Harbour groupies.

Willie Walsh has said he remains committed to a route to/from LHR. It would appear that this means(in your minds) that the BMI route is secure.

What about he gets Aer Lingus to up their rotations (partner and all) and he uses the remainder of the Bmi slots for something else?

BA keep their promise. Aer Lingus and BIAL flourish. BHD goes pop. (no moving of EIN to the docks in this scenario please.....night time constaints and aircraft utilisation take precedence).

EI-A330-300 5th Feb 2012 12:38

One thing Aer Lingus don't have the short haul aircraft to do it. Next aircraft will be 2 more A319 in early 2013.
BA may perfer them to increase it from DUB as BA CEO said he would like to keep DUB flights but he could not be certain. At the minute BHO-LHR is muh more certain to be kept than DUB connection.


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