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VentureGo 13th Mar 2017 11:48

This morning's flights cancelled!
NCL-IOM (G-MAJY) operated as schedule, but aircraft remains on ground at IOM with its IOM-BHD-IOM cancelled. - Not sure if a/c has gone tech. Too soon to say whether IOM-NCL will operated as scheduled this afternoon

Cozy F 16th Mar 2017 14:42

So it seems the current plan is to maintain the integrity of the frontiers after brexit by using technology.


Maybe that has the potential to even up some of the damaging tax loopholes which currently exist.


BHD loses so much business every year by BA directing their NI traffic by road to depart on their flights from Dublin to Heathrow. By doing this, and transferring on through Heathrow within 24 hours under a single ticket / airline code, air passengers can evade paying the heavy long haul Air Tax which would exist if they flew on a UK-originating flight and staying within UK jurisdiction (BHD - LHR and onwards). The same loophole exists if someone arrives in the UK but makes their way to Dublin or elsewhere (Amsterdam?) to take a return journey. Little wonder in these circumstances that Willie Walsh sees benefit in moving activity out of the UK into Dublin!


So basically everyone within the UK pays through the nose for travel from and within their own country under Treasury regulations but the barn door is lying wide open to be exploited in neighbouring European countries for their own economic benefit. The much treasured Common Travel Area within Ireland and the UK becomes rather less 'common' when one party uses it to benefit at the other's expense. Surely this type of madness can only be damaging to the UK's economy. Perhaps frontier technology will help the UK to wipe out these irregularities and ensure that everyone gets a fair deal in future.

Refuellerman 17th Mar 2017 20:22


Originally Posted by Cozy F (Post 9708223)
So it seems the current plan is to maintain the integrity of the frontiers after brexit by using technology.


Maybe that has the potential to even up some of the damaging tax loopholes which currently exist.


BHD loses so much business every year by BA directing their NI traffic by road to depart on their flights from Dublin to Heathrow. By doing this, and transferring on through Heathrow within 24 hours under a single ticket / airline code, air passengers can evade paying the heavy long haul Air Tax which would exist if they flew on a UK-originating flight and staying within UK jurisdiction (BHD - LHR and onwards). The same loophole exists if someone arrives in the UK but makes their way to Dublin or elsewhere (Amsterdam?) to take a return journey. Little wonder in these circumstances that Willie Walsh sees benefit in moving activity out of the UK into Dublin!


So basically everyone within the UK pays through the nose for travel from and within their own country under Treasury regulations but the barn door is lying wide open to be exploited in neighbouring European countries for their own economic benefit. The much treasured Common Travel Area within Ireland and the UK becomes rather less 'common' when one party uses it to benefit at the other's expense. Surely this type of madness can only be damaging to the UK's economy. Perhaps frontier technology will help the UK to wipe out these irregularities and ensure that everyone gets a fair deal in future.

100% lad, keep the foreigners and drug dealers and every sort of badness out, we have enough badness and corruption to sort out first lol

owenc 18th Mar 2017 01:33

As a young man, I just want to live a life of peace and prosperity. I'm tired of bickering and fighting.

It would be great if the current Stormont administration could be replaced to be honest.

A320.b744 23rd Mar 2017 02:18

I was booking flights with KLM and noticed that from this Sunday, Belfast flights will be upgraded to the E190 on selected days. The current schedule is as follows;

E190: 26th March - 9th April, 1st May - 14th May, every Sunday from 21st May
F70: 10th April - 30th April
E175: Monday - Saturday from 15th May

I'd say the prolonged E190 periods will be due to operational reasons - lack of F70/E175 - or possibly something to do with Embraer crew training at BHD.

The Fokker 70 will leave Belfast for the final time on 30th April.

The Sunday upgrade plus the extra capacity of the E175 over the F70 means that there will be 68 extra weekly seats each way on the route.

El Bunto 26th Mar 2017 16:20

Well spotted re: the F70 schedule. Outlasted its great rival, the 146, by just a month at Belfast given Brussels Airline's last service was on Friday 24th.

EGAC is Better 8th Apr 2017 08:36


Originally Posted by El Bunto (Post 9719867)
Well spotted re: the F70 schedule. Outlasted its great rival, the 146, by just a month at Belfast given Brussels Airline's last service was on Friday 24th.

It would seem the 146 has the last laugh. KLM have signed a wet lease agreement with Cityjet which will see the 146 operate some of KLM's Belfast services. Quote below from the press release.

From May 15th KLM Cityhopper will wet lease two RJ85 aircraft from CityJet to operate four additional Amsterdam to London City services each weekday, bringing the KLM frequency to eight per weekday, four operated by KLM Cityhopper on Embraer 190s and four by CityJet on wet lease using Avro RJ85s. CityJet will also operate a number of existing flights to Birmingham, Hamburg, Bordeaux and Belfast on behalf of KLM.

BFS watcher 19th Apr 2017 12:55

Feb BHD pax estimate
 
BHD looking down about 9 to 10% in February. With all the domestics in except GLA and LBA, they are at 142K if you say 24K for LBA and GLA combined plus 4K for AMS and BRU then 170K is the approx Feb pax. Not too good compared to the 189k in Feb 16.

Startledgrapefruit 19th Apr 2017 14:54


Originally Posted by BFS watcher (Post 9745471)
BHD looking down about 9 to 10% in February. With all the domestics in except GLA and LBA, they are at 142K if you say 24K for LBA and GLA combined plus 4K for AMS and BRU then 170K is the approx Feb pax. Not too good compared to the 189k in Feb 16.

No doubt Bfswatcher is now sitting there with a wee cake and party hat on party blower in hand.

BFS watcher 19th Apr 2017 19:29


Originally Posted by Startledgrapefruit (Post 9745600)
No doubt Bfswatcher is now sitting there with a wee cake and party hat on party blower in hand.

You missed the bottle of champers,

Startledgrapefruit 19th Apr 2017 19:55

you old enough for champers??

Waldo1 19th Apr 2017 22:32

Summer routes
 
How's aer Lingus holding up this year on Spain and Portugal? I know it's early days but hopefully they can do a turn still?

Locker10a 19th Apr 2017 22:48


Originally Posted by Waldo1 (Post 9746079)
How's aer Lingus holding up this year on Spain and Portugal? I know it's early days but hopefully they can do a turn still?

Are their A320s payload restricted on flights like AGP and FAO from BHD ?

Waldo1 19th Apr 2017 23:06


Originally Posted by Locker10a (Post 9746094)
Are their A320s payload restricted on flights like AGP and FAO from BHD ?

Don't think so, anytime I was on the Malaga, it seemed to make the runway seem very big...

PPRuNeUser0176 20th Apr 2017 00:03

Not form BHD, wouldn't be that heavy.
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Fares might be a bit soft, FR only charging 12.99 from BFS-AGP on Sunday! I suspect they can make a profit but with EI and so few aircraft it needs to be a good return to keep it.

I have never saw a AGP service so cheap.

mart901 21st Apr 2017 06:33


Originally Posted by Waldo1 (Post 9746109)
Don't think so, anytime I was on the Malaga, it seemed to make the runway seem very big...

I don't believe there is a restriction, for example the flight which had a medical emergency recently had 175 pax on.

LBA going 5x daily from winter, LPL remaining daily despite all the predictions.

A320.b744 24th Apr 2017 09:17

Brian Ambrose will make several new route announcements over the coming months - anyone want to speculate?

EI-BUD 24th Apr 2017 13:32

My only guesses IF there really are new routes;

Eurowings with a German route,

WOW to Kef and on to US and Canada,

BA on LCY,

Would bmiregional look at EU points on their current
network too thin for 737/319/320?

Cork with Stobart, resurrection of an old route?

Eastern increase on IOM.

Unless Icelandair's routes connect to addition US points, would that form the basis of an announcement.


If there is anything new, it will be in the above....

..so long as the airport holds on to its LHR service, that should be no. 1 priority...

BHD2BFS 24th Apr 2017 13:54


Originally Posted by A320.b744 (Post 9750576)
Brian Ambrose will make several new route announcements over the coming months - anyone want to speculate?

Where has this been reported?

panpanpanpan 24th Apr 2017 14:38


Originally Posted by A320.b744 (Post 9750576)
Brian Ambrose will make several new route announcements over the coming months - anyone want to speculate?

This one is news to me as well!

Unfortunately Harbour is stagnant, no growth and indeed going backwards. Their main player FlyBe just doesn't seem to have either the appetite or capability of any kind of expansion. I can remember some 20 years ago hearing of Harbours plans involving Jersey European as they were then doing great and exciting things - but nothing. Why?:confused:

Harbour is crying out for a leisure London route again, Heathrow and London City are fantastic but prices are astronomical! Why on earth would anyone pay 5 times the price to go to Heathrow for a few days when they can get the same offering from Aldergrove with either Ryanair or Easy.

Its a sad day when staff I know from Harbour think a new Jetstream service to IOM is a good result from their marketing team.:ugh:


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