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fjencl 5th Dec 2016 18:25

Very well said :D:D:D

Surely all the negative bashers can decide to negatively bash another subject, as its all getting a bit boring discussing a dash 8 experience .....yawn yawn yawn.

Move along !!!!!!

bongoo 5th Dec 2016 19:22


Originally Posted by fjencl (Post 9599819)
Very well said :D:D:D

Surely all the negative bashers can decide to negatively bash another subject, as its all getting a bit boring discussing a dash 8 experience .....yawn yawn yawn.

Move along !!!!!!

It's a BHD thing. If they had announced this route from BFS it would be nothing but positivity. Pretty pathetic really.

Cozy F 5th Dec 2016 19:48

OBE - Brussels passengers built well during the summer. Some days stronger than others and don't know about yield performance. Tailing off now coming into the winter months, to be expected I suppose. :)

Husky One 5th Dec 2016 22:03

I use both airports and both have large flaws and I can't be bothered with the politics. For what it's worth the most frequent comment I hear when getting on a Flybe flight is a groan followed by 'oh no not one of these again' so I'd say the comments about props are perfectly valid. The q4 doesn't bother me for an hour. Beyond that is a stretch. In fact Flybe even seem to be using sector length as part of their marketing (guess they forgot about SOU-ALC).
If citywing decided to launch BFS-CDG in their 410 I'm sure they get the same reception. in 1986 nobody cared what was under the wing, in 2016 they are a good deal more fussy. Sad but true

OneBellEnd 6th Dec 2016 19:48

Thanks Cozy.

Good to see Brussels is getting stronger after what must have been a tough start in the Spring.

Had wondered if it would be a logical route for Ryanair to start from Belfast if it showed a basis for developing with low fares??

NWSRG 6th Dec 2016 19:51


I use both airports and both have large flaws and I can't be bothered with the politics. For what it's worth the most frequent comment I hear when getting on a Flybe flight is a groan followed by 'oh no not one of these again' so I'd say the comments about props are perfectly valid. The q4 doesn't bother me for an hour. Beyond that is a stretch. In fact Flybe even seem to be using sector length as part of their marketing (guess they forgot about SOU-ALC).
If citywing decided to launch BFS-CDG in their 410 I'm sure they get the same reception. in 1986 nobody cared what was under the wing, in 2016 they are a good deal more fussy. Sad but true
Careful Husky...common sense on one of the Belfast airport threads? You'll be blacklisted! :-)

EGAC is Better 6th Dec 2016 20:09


Originally Posted by NWSRG (Post 9601086)
Careful Husky...common sense on one of the Belfast airport threads? You'll be blacklisted! :-)

+1 on this.

I'm no armchair CEO or hater! I use both airports and happen to prefer using BHD.

As for the Q400, I stand by everything I said and agree totally with Husky. My original comments expressed hope this service would work and expand but in the meantime, I certainly won't fly for 3hrs on a Q400.

My other half who doesn't care how she gets to where she has to go, has zero interest in aviation and regularly uses Flybe responded with "No thanks" when asked about the propect of spending 3hrs on a Q400.

I'm over this now, my opinion is as valid as those who think this is a non-issue. Time will tell. Hopefully it works but my opinion happens to be that it is fighting a head wind from day one.

Skipness One Echo 6th Dec 2016 23:20

I can't believe someone seriously picked "EGAC is better" as a username......
The Q400 will be competing against er....no one! We used to see Fokker 50s on GLA-REK, they had to stop because of all those "windy conditions" ! #notreally
The bulk of anyone booking this route will in no way have even looked at the Aircraft Type option.
So, are you honestly 33 years old?

SecondDog 7th Dec 2016 16:06


Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo (Post 9601256)
The Q400 will be competing against er....no one!

EZY will run KEF in winter I believe, unless the prices from Icelandair put them off I suppose 😕

EGAC is Better 7th Dec 2016 17:06


Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo (Post 9601256)
I can't believe someone seriously picked "EGAC is better" as a username......
The Q400 will be competing against er....no one! We used to see Fokker 50s on GLA-REK, they had to stop because of all those "windy conditions" ! #notreally
The bulk of anyone booking this route will in no way have even looked at the Aircraft Type option.
So, are you honestly 33 years old?

Hahahahahahahaha!!! You can always rely on a Belfast thread to resort to personal insults when people do not agree with your opinion.

The username was created tounge in cheek a very long time ago, but crack on and be judgemental Skipness. Any respect I had for you has been greatly diminished with that comment. Good job.

When were the F50's? Before the masses became accustomed to the expectation that their mode of transport would be a jet? Interestingly, I have seen a lot of Icelandair marketing material with the Q400 on it.....ohh sorry I've mistaken it for photo's of a B757! Like it or not, turboprops have a stigma attached nowadays.

The Q400 will be competing against WowAir from DUB and EZY from BFS in winter if they keep the route open. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good rant now.

El Bunto 7th Dec 2016 19:16


When were the F50's?
Sometime after 1987? Entered service a year before the A320 so not exactly out of its era... Passengers have been "preferring" jets to turboprops since 1952 but when it comes to booking the flight that's usually forgotten; just look at the fleets of CRJs and ERJs parked in the USA now after ATRs and Q400s reclaimed their routes.

mart901 7th Dec 2016 19:17

I notice now several websites including UA offering US flights via LHR with EI/UA, not sure if this is a new phenomena or I've just become aware of it, certainly very competitive for EWR.

PPRuNeUser0176 7th Dec 2016 19:18


I notice now several websites including UA offering US flights via LHR with EI/UA, not sure if this is a new phenomena or I've just become aware of it, certainly very competitive for EWR.
EI/UA have been code sharing for years, even when BFS-LHR operated this was available.

UA even offer cheaper fares from DUB to EWR via MAN/BHX/GLA/EDI instead of flying direct.

Una Due Tfc 7th Dec 2016 20:33

Indeed it's one of the reasons AA are dragging their heals on EI joining One world and the trans Atlantic joint venture they have with IAG, EI codeshare with both UA and JetBlue.

mart901 7th Dec 2016 21:42

I think it's just totally gone by unnoticed by me, probably because it's come up cheaper with other combinations in the past. That's an interesting muddle of affairs, AA/UA/BA/EI....

BFS watcher 15th Dec 2016 18:39

Interesting evening with at least 4 arrivals after the curfew. I bet the Culthra set are really happy about their dinner parties being disrupted

cuthere 15th Dec 2016 19:16

Aye, by FR1137 going overhead at 6000FT at 23.20......

Startledgrapefruit 15th Dec 2016 22:58


Originally Posted by BFS watcher (Post 9610642)
Interesting evening with at least 4 arrivals after the curfew. I bet the Culthra set are really happy about their dinner parties being disrupted

BFS watcher please read the planning for the airport and not the friends of Aldergrove societys propaganda
Curfew is 23.59 but then why speak the truth when made up facts dampen your party.
We are often woken by your lovely airports jets at 0130 in the summer. Is that something your reject in your rants ?

ILS25 16th Dec 2016 06:54

Childish rants about curfews and noise. Little notice and even less care.

El Bunto 16th Dec 2016 08:50

Re: freighter noise at International, a few months ago they introduced a night-time max speed of 250 KIAS below FL070 to try to reduce overflight noise. Took a little while for crews to adapt ( e.g. to stop popping the spoilers to restrain speed ) but subjectively it has worked.


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