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HeathrowDictator 8th Oct 2015 18:27

Stand 24 was created when the sunshine routes were started, for the based A320 to park on the nightstop (as pax have to be bussed around to International Arrivals anyway). As part of that, Stand 21 was formally marked out which can park a DH8D. I remember a spare one being parked there a lot of Winter 2013/4.

With those two stands, that brings the total number to 12 - still 1 or 2 short of the required if the numbers quoted by BHD2BFS are correct.

That said, the management are very forward thinking and aren't afraid to spend money on infrastructure should it be required. Is there a possibility of parking something over on the north side (where the Bombardier visitors go)?

Great news for BHD, just need some more punters car parking now to keep up with the increased demand, stick a multi story on the current short stay?

-HD-

belfastmark 8th Oct 2015 18:56

Really great news. But God the same routes multiplied. Surely would they not be better having one or two niche routes. Look at Jet2 to Dubrovnik prices are always sky high. Personally I think they would have been better using the extra Fao and Agp rotations on new routes.

On another note about aircraft parking. With all these international flights I think a good idea would me to revamp stands 8-10 to take big a320 that way no need for buses as could walk straight into international arrivals and not disrupting other services too much!

El Bunto 8th Oct 2015 20:03

I must have been sleeping, when did Aer Lingus shunt the London flights onto the useless-for-business 07:30+ period?

Need to pop to London for meetings in January and only FlyBE's 06:30 and BA's 06:55 are practical. Didn't Lingus used to have a brace at 06:40 and 06:45? Are they giving-up on the corporate market and going all bucket-and-spade?

/me returns to dozing

Oh looks like the last 06:45 EIN020 to Gatters was 28th March 2015.

Oh2, I hadn't set the date correctly on the super-slow website. Disregard all my witterings. 06:45 is available again from 23rd October.

irishlad06 9th Oct 2015 07:40

Confirmed flybe will be 9x dh4 based aircraft this winter with

1 x edi aircraft operating 10 sectors,
1x GLA aircraft operating 4 sectors
1 x man operating 4 sectors
1 x sou operating 2 sectors
1 x BHX operating 6 sectors
1 x ABZ operating 2 sectors

1 aircraft will be a spare aircraft in BHD and will be parked at bombardier.

mart901 9th Oct 2015 09:42

Out of interest in the Telegraph today;

New Belfast to Germany route still on Aer Lingus agenda - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

cessnarocket 9th Oct 2015 10:07

May put readymix onstandby,all these extra flights will take its toll on the little runway void problem..

AIRPORT66 9th Oct 2015 10:20

airport66
 
Keep that quiet nobody mean't to know about that big problem they have.

OneBellEnd 9th Oct 2015 10:52

This is all very interesting and encouraging.


Who is Mike Rutter? I'm sure I've come across his name before, but thought he was a racing motorcyclist!!?

GAZMO 9th Oct 2015 11:12

Think he is ex Flybe

panpanpanpan 9th Oct 2015 22:38

So it's more of the same routes, so what? If Aer Lingus have found a market that works and is making them some cash then why would they not exploit it?:confused:

Cessna & 666, what are you on about with voids in runways?:confused: The only damage I heard on the grapevine was when Mr A dropped his wallet and left a rather large crater, maybe he could use some of his £60k pay rise to help with the repairs.:ooh: Apparently the accountant Mr Mc dropped his wallet but it hit him on the back of the head so no harm done. :hmm:

larry the man 11th Oct 2015 17:37

Mr Rutter is indeed ex flybe, then he ran part of its European operation and before that I believe he was in Hoover, in the 90s.

EI-BUD 11th Oct 2015 21:59

Seriously Panpanpan....

Only £60k, at multiply by2 for hos responsibility and the level of responsibility....

Sorry just realised you'd written pay rise... Nice work of you can get it, more power to him!

panpanpanpan 12th Oct 2015 10:04

Maybe its just me and my old fashioned viewpoint but I have always tried to keep anyone working for me onside as much as possible, alienating yourself from staff by taking a massive % pay rise while pleading poverty at pay negotiations doesn't do any favours for ones credibility. It certainly doesn't breed any form of loyalty amongst staff either. I must ask my contacts at Harbour how much of a bonus the ordinary workers got last year, I would take a punt that it wasn't in the 60k region.:hmm: Having said that Mr A is obviously doing the right things when it comes to attracting new business so perhaps he is worth the annual 300k plus package?:ooh:

SecondDog 12th Oct 2015 11:08


Originally Posted by panpanpanpan (Post 9145025)
Maybe its just me and my old fashioned viewpoint but I have always tried to keep anyone working for me onside as much as possible, alienating yourself from staff by taking a massive % pay rise while pleading poverty at pay negotiations doesn't do any favours for ones credibility. It certainly doesn't breed any form of loyalty amongst staff either. I must ask my contacts at Harbour how much of a bonus the ordinary workers got last year, I would take a punt that it wasn't in the 60k region.:hmm: Having said that Mr A is obviously doing the right things when it comes to attracting new business so perhaps he is worth the annual 300k plus package?:ooh:

I don't know what he is on but in terms of his DUP persuasion and his chairmanship of the Irish tourism board that pays all the airlines to fly from there, I am certain the owners are willing to pay it. ;-)

elle may clampit 13th Oct 2015 18:43

The payment to KLM to start a route to AMS which was already served from NI was 525k euro. Regardless of whether this was from Tourism Ireland or any other government body, it is a disgrace. The money still came from Northern Ireland and could have been better used in the hard pressed health service or funding starved education system. I take it the Minister in charge of INI had to approve the award of this money?

GAZMO 13th Oct 2015 19:24

Have to agree. If it was a new route from NI then fine, but the route is already offered by EZY. Money should only be used for NEW routes from NI airports

SecondDog 13th Oct 2015 21:49

Strangely enough I disagree. TI is a cross border body designed to promote the island abroad. I like this part and think their investment is necessary to promote growth in multiple sectors.

However, given the amount per passenger that was offered to KLM per head compared to what other potential services that could be/have been mooted from BFS have been offered per head, this should be creating some very awkward questions for the chairman of TI in his position as CEO of the beneficiary airport (Given as pointed out by many that AMS was already served by BFS and therefore KLM was only really likely to choose BHD)

Somehow though these questions are not being asked. I believe this is because of the same political influence that shut down Boal so that they can monopolize car parking. This poses more questions about jobs for the boyos in Northern Ireland and casts a very large shadow over potential development of the aviation sector in N.I.

Meanwhile DUB sails into the sunset laughing all the way to the big American bank.

True Blue 13th Oct 2015 22:13

These bodies and government departments do not have money. They only have our money, taken away from us in taxes etc. But it is easy to make these decisions when it is not your money. Next time you have a relative needing into hospital and they are told they will have to wait on a trolly for many hours due a shortage of beds, think on this grant. Wait for the next one.

Conflict of interest!!

Obscene.

shoe shine 14th Oct 2015 06:10

Conflict of interest, yes. Obscene, yes. It's a total disgrace but not one bit surprising. The links to the party are working well, evidenced by the money from TI, the Chairman was a party appointment, and the treatment of Boal. I suppose there is little point in even raising this as the 'party' don't seem to do 'wrong', or initiatives of genuine wider public interest, and aren't embarrassed by anything.

sarcon 15th Oct 2015 03:53

when is the issue over the Gatwick slots due to be resolved?


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