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belfastmark 2nd Sep 2015 20:36

Do we think that Vueling will stay on in the winter or a definte no? Seems a shame in summer easyjet and them then winter I don't think any? Easyjet stopping too I think. Surely a 2 weekly would be viable?

GAZMO 2nd Sep 2015 20:55

EZY have struggled with BCN during the winter period, even Mon and Fri departures in the winter, which is great for weekend breaks have not been that successful

Aaron9890 4th Sep 2015 16:53


Aaron

Out of interest what did you think of VY? I've booked next summer.

If its any indication of success they were very quick of the mark putting 2016 on sale. They are somewhat unknown in the NI market, although they are at DUB this while. Some low loads so far but 100 pax per flight is not a total disaster by any stretch.

I had heard a lot before about how bad the seat space etc was but i really had no issue with that and i'm 6'1. Overall i really enjoyed the flight good service etc and flight left on time and arrived early. Only thing i didn't like was the border control in BHD on my return... but that's nothing to do with Vueling.

mart901 4th Sep 2015 18:15

Thanks for the info Aaron, the whole legroom thing never ceases to amaze me. Read the comments online about say TCX and its all legroom related and people comparing exactly the same 757-200 against TOM and saying TOM are more generous yet they are exactly same. VY will be same as any other there's only so many ways you can squish 180 people into an aircraft!

dantheflyboy 6th Sep 2015 12:35

Christmas Day open or closed?
 
See KLM offering 25th December flights into city airport, does anyone know if this is an error or is the airport opening specially for them.

stab3.5up 6th Sep 2015 17:37

I would guess an error tbh

garybell 7th Sep 2015 11:00

many thanks Gazmo, looking for flights around May next year.

mart901 8th Sep 2015 23:19

EI's LHR summer 16' on sale now, same frequency but better spaced than this summer with later flight back, works well with LGW. LHR showing as A319, LGW A320.

stab3.5up 9th Sep 2015 15:14

And BA showing an extra flight at 2030 departure for w15/16

True Blue 22nd Sep 2015 20:28

In June just past, I flew Bhd to Bodrum on Ei to Lgw then Ba on to Bjv. The Ei flight to Lgw was a BA codeshare. I am looking at flights again for next year and the BA codeshare does not appear. Considering the new arrangement in terms of ownership, does anyone have any idea why the BA codes are not showing on the EI flights to Lgw and if that will change soon?

TB

EI-BUD 22nd Sep 2015 21:47

Seems strange TB...Hopefully it's not for the can. If/when a new operator joins the route unlikely EI will hang about. They were about to hang up their boots on bhd LGW just before BE confirmed their exit. Hence, an easyJet appearance on the route would be lights out. I cant see it being later than summer 2016.ie developments and new operator announced.. So you might be on to something..

mart901 22nd Sep 2015 22:40

EI-BUD

Lot of surmising going on. In reality BE were going from LGW before EI entered the scene. LGW had given notice that they were adjusting landing fees in favour of larger aircraft. This is why BE pulled out of LGW lock, stock and barrel. You keep saying EI will exit the route and BHD, I see no basis of reality to back this up. Any operator bar FR will have an uphill battle against EZY and EI, especially as most likely candidates will have no recognition in the NI market. EI do well on every single route, just look at the starting fares they charge, BA and EZY are cheaper than them on LHR and LGW - EI can operate at £19 one way where they need to, clearly they don't at BHD.

EI-BUD 23rd Sep 2015 07:46

Mart901,

In relation to Flybe, at the time that they did finally axe the LGW route, EI did not put that route on sale until the precise day that BE announced with certainty that they were axing the route. And at the point it was the only route that was still not on sale. It is completely reasonable to assume in my view that if BE stayed EI would have discontinued the route.

Thankfully they stayed. My point is that if another carrier, i.e. FR or easyJet enter the LGW BHD market, I cannot see EI sticking it out. They didn't stick any competition from easyJet on direct routes ex LGW, they bowed out and they haven't remained on any route ex LGW against Ryanair apart from Dublin. Hence my rationale, I certainly hope that I am wrong. But it is my view that it is only a matter of time before the orange machine strategically reinstates a BHD route. Make of that what you will.

In relation to BE at LGW again, it was all rumours and nothing concrete until they announcement came out. They kept the Newquay route on in the 11th hour, that was never forseen... So anything can happen. . .

I use BHD LGW quite a bit and would hope it to remain on as an EI route into the future...

EI-BUD

mart901 23rd Sep 2015 10:11

Nothing would entirely cease to amaze me but after last time I can't see EZY turning up at BHD. Surely also at some point won't EI offer connection through LGW into IAG? The potential for which is huge, BA tend to offer much cheaper flights ex LGW than LHR. I do agree though with the general consensus that remove FR from the equation and the only other contender is DY. I may be wrong but I don't see the LGW-BHD route as a big enough money spinner for the likes of FR or DY to plough lots of slots and resources into it, and have to go up against EZY and all the other London to Belfast routes.

stab3.5up 24th Sep 2015 11:50

Would Jet2 give BHD LGW a go maybe?

speedrestriction 25th Sep 2015 08:07

Jet2 - unlikely. No route overlap with the rest of their network so it would be difficult to optimise the line of work. Also it is not what people associate Jet2 with so they would have to plough a lot into marketing. I reckon the best fit would be one of the big LGW locos.

True Blue 25th Sep 2015 22:42

I see BA are code sharing on Dub-Lgw/Lhr. They do not seem to be code sharing on any flight out of Bhd. I wonder what that might mean for EI at Bhd?

TB

BFS watcher 26th Sep 2015 18:59

BFS to buy Bhd
 
Big rumour flying around that the American shareholders of BFS have offered to buy BHD. I suppose DAA walked away because it was too rich for them. The Yanks seem to have lots of money

eastern wiseguy 28th Sep 2015 01:03

Hmm there's a great idea (honestly...ZERO sarcasm).

Combine the ATC functions with BFS doing the radar and, tower only persons at BHD .

Obvious savings right off the bat.

I could lie and say it hasn't been proposed and costed before....but I won't. Go for it.

El Bunto 28th Sep 2015 09:59

Wouldn't necessarily even need people in the tower; Cork and Shannon are being transitioned to remote-tower operation with the controllers located in Dublin.


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