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TwinAisle 23rd May 2011 16:03


Pope TwinAisle I has a certain ring to it
This one?

Ring of the Fisherman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

:ok:

I'll pass thanks. I don't look my best in a hat and a dress...

TA

planenut321 27th May 2011 17:33

Anyone got any idea if CWL are in any ''positive'' talks with replacement carriers?

Rumour has it that LS and MON talks went badly and CWL management can't afford not to get someone in to replace baby or is it too late? :sad:

Phileas Fogg 27th May 2011 18:46

Apparently the Helvetic ZRH/CWL/ZRH route experienced circa 16.5% load factors during April, i.e. an average of 16.5 pax per Fokker100 to/from CWL!

GAXLN 27th May 2011 22:05

On that basis I would expect the ZRH service to be pulled before too long - end of summer season at latest - unless there's some huge support somewhere along the line.

Bartman27 28th May 2011 01:20

Zurich
 
Is the Zurich flight having any support from the assembly......

airvanman 28th May 2011 08:14

I was amazed Helvetic were daft enough to start the service. The top Knobs at the airport or the Welsh Assembly must have holiday homes out in HB land!?

I am not a fan of Ryanair but they should of been given everything they asked for years ago. All airports are now more than ever are just shopping centres with a runway. They can rip off pax for parking and trap them in departures spending their money. CWL blew this opportunity letting RYR go.
RYR could have 6 or more aircraft now based at CWL. All the pax that fly from BRS would use them and they could be giving EZY a run for their money?

The only hope for CWL is that it gets some based FlyBE a/c in the future?

Phileas Fogg 28th May 2011 08:32

CWL Airport Management holiday home(s) would have been around the time BA decided to build the maintenance facility .....

As negotiations were reaching the 'signed, sealed, delivered' stage the then airport director, it may have been his wife, had bought up land adjacent to the airport that part of the maintenance facility now resides on, the land had been bought for a cheap price and became sold to BA for a much higher price only a short period of time later.

One airport director sacking/resignation later .....

macdo 2nd Jun 2011 09:34

:D I knew Swansea had its own Mafia, now I know Cardiff has one too! Thanks for that story, it was new to me.
Flew home last night from my own hols from RDS, 162 pax on 180 seat a/c, in half term week. When we checked in last week, place was like a ghost town, never seen the like at this time of year.

Oldtimer1 6th Jun 2011 13:54


Anyone got any idea if CWL are in any ''positive'' talks with replacement carriers?

Rumour has it that LS and MON talks went badly and CWL management can't afford not to get someone in to replace baby or is it too late? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...y_dog_eyes.gif
I heared similar from a friend that the Jet2 talks went very badly and they have all but ruled themselves out of using Cardiff (Im ex-industry- now retired). Not heared much on Monarch but I wouldnt expect them to do anything but limited charters during the summer months. When you look who else there are, flybe are the obvious choice for main carrier, however I can only see them having limited expansion on domestic and very short haul flights to cater to any demand. EZY and RYR are out of the picture. Cardiff is reallly in the brown stuff when it come to its future. Lets hope management can pull somthing out of the bag.

I suppose the good news is that TOM is bound to have a small increase in bucket and spade destinations next year, as small a consolidation that it.


(PS- I was a member of pprune several years ago, but sadly forgot my username and have no access to my email address any more)

crackling jet 10th Jun 2011 13:35

Not sure if i've read it wrong but on the Blackpool thread there is a referrence to (LS) Jet 2 at Cardiff, any news anyone?

planenut321 10th Jun 2011 15:13

LS have been in discussion with CWL. It didn't go well.

fanrailuk 15th Jun 2011 13:55

Assembly on Airport
 
At last, there seems to be a slight glimmer of hope that something is to be done about the damn state of affairs at the airport thanks to intervention from the WAG; fingers crossed there'll be ££ involved - airlines like ££! :ok:

BBC News - Carwyn Jones's concern over future of Cardiff Airport

TwinAisle 15th Jun 2011 14:36

Sadly, whilst airlines like ££s, they don't like the possibility of being hauled up in front of various chunks of the EU if they get the said ££s from government...

This is not a problem that money needs to be thrown at.

TA

crackling jet 16th Jun 2011 14:34

nice to see fair competition is still around-not, so reading the article in the press report attached a couple of responses back, explains why a near empty aircraft flies backwards and forwards every day to Zurich, what was the phrase used, oh yes that's right "after a successful partnership between the airline and the welsh government was reached", resulted in the new daily service.

Now with figures of 16.6% seats filled stated on some of the movements, does that mean the welsh government ie the tax payer, (i won't say local tax payer, as it will probably end up as over budget and will be covered by top up from the english government) are subsidising the empty 83.4% seats?

Money isn't the problem, as said so many times before, there isn't the catchment to sustain the growth.

Going back 20 years the position of Cardiff and Bristol were reversed, and at one time Bristol City Council had a meeting to decide the future of the ailing airpot, whether to close it or get someone in to turn it around, lickily the latter was chosen and Les Wilson was brought in and at times the meteoric rise in fortune and business began.

This situation is still prevelant today and stated money was not the answer as at that time we had just been designated as a regional development area (southwest RDA) which was only shut down last year and in that time Bristol Airport never had a penny from it, it was all down to the managements hard work.

In addition this all coincided with the building of a new town and vast business park in the area at the time as well as the local area is full of retirees with plenty of money and time to spend it, which unfortunately Cardiff does not.

blue up 26th Jun 2011 07:31

Anyone know an approximate number of light GA movements per day average this summer? I've been trying to get a ride before I retake my Group A licence, just to find out what has changed in the 15 years since I last flew light A/C.:O

If anyone has a spare seat....

chrisy08 27th Jun 2011 12:04

Hello..

Can anyone tell me what aircraft will be used for the TCX7926 Cardiff to Antalya tomorrow? I heard it was an Airbus A320, but when you go on Flightstats.co.uk it says it's a Boeing 757.... The reason I know it's a A320, is because I am going on this flight tomorrow on holiday, and it says A320, however when looking on stats it says Boeing 757.. Have Thomas Cook changed there aircraft from A320 to 757?

sam1993 27th Jun 2011 12:09

It is indeed an A320. Flightstats seems to show all Thomas Cook flights as being operated by a 757 :ok:

chrisy08 27th Jun 2011 12:26

Thank you.. I would have preferred a 757 tbh :P

G3jetman 29th Jun 2011 09:55

WAN
 
Just looked on WAN as it seems to me that the site needs a moderator...or is it school children messing about. Get real!! You have a major geographical problem and that is you have a good airport in the wrong place with a weak catchment area! Just looked on CWL site and the have had 9 departures from 0600 to 1100...then looked at BRS and they've had 34 departures from 0600 to 1100....dopes not need rocket science to work out that a lot of work needs to be done!! Good luck!

benjiman1994 30th Jun 2011 15:15

It was 10 actually :L CWL will in the near future have more airlines and routes available, I can assure you.


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