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Richard Taylor 4th Jun 2017 21:11

Good to see the Shorts down safely.

bycrewlgw 6th Jul 2017 11:16

May 2017 Stats
 
May 2017

Rolling passengers YTD: 1,384,492

Domestic:

London City: 2,258
Anglesey: 989 (+14%)
Belfast City: 3,832 (+4%)
Edinburgh: 8,036 (+5%)
Glasgow: 2,109 (-38%)
Guernsey: 543
Jersey: 1,615 (-4%)
Newcastle: 1,364 (+16%)
Aberdeen: 830

International:

Cyprus:
Larnaca: 2,441 (-22%)
Paphos: 1,663 (+11%)

France:
Paris - CDG: 4,959 (+22%)

Germany:
Berlin - TXL: 1,264
Düsseldorf: 234 (-20%)
Munich: 1,254 (-27%)

Greece:
Corfu: 1,278 (-10%)
Heraklion: 1,676 (+1%)
Kefalonia: 1,608 (no change)
Kos: 540 (+5%)
Rhodes: 3,165 (+38%)
Zakynthos: 2,685 (+5%)

Ireland:
Cork: 915 (-8%)
Dublin: 7,948 (-8%)

Italy:
Milan -MXP: 2,387 (+29%)
Rome - FCO: 1,442
Verona: 1,130 (+122%)

Netherlands:
Amsterdam: 11,824 (+7%)

Spain:
Alicante: 10,910 (+18%)
Barcelona: 2,856 (-13%)
Ibiza: 5,461 (+6%)
Mahon: 3,148 (+54%)
Malaga: 9,977 (+14%)
Palma: 16,318 (+3%)
Reus: 2,722 (-1%)

Spain - Canary Islands:
Lanzarote: 4,162 (-6%)
Gran Canaria: 1,468 (-2%)
Tenerife: 7,245 (-1%)

Turkey:
Dalaman: 4,260 (+61%)

Bulgaria:
Bourgas: 1,644 (+10%)

United States of America:
Orlando - MCO: 308 (+1%)

Few notable exceptions:

Malta hasn't reappeared with another airline. Maybe on for FR to try?

Turkey has seen a big increase in people going back to the area. Hopefully will see a Bodrum / Antalya / Izmir service again in the future.

Feel that LPA is underserved and could be picked up by VY or FR on a few rotations a week.

Letsflycwl 20th Jul 2017 20:59

Do we know a start date yet for the Qatar Airways flights ? Isn't it meant to be from April 2018 ?

All we need now is a transatlantic schedule then passenger figures will increase even more.....shame we can't get Norwegian in.

heading 125 21st Jul 2017 09:38


Originally Posted by Letsflycwl (Post 9837144)
Do we know a start date yet for the Qatar Airways flights ? Isn't it meant to be from April 2018 ?

All we need now is a transatlantic schedule then passenger figures will increase even more.....shame we can't get Norwegian in.

Actually Norwegian flying in to do a flight for Thomson every week I think at the moment. So already have a presence. It's good that the yearly total is nearly 1.5 million passengers. That's over a 50% increase in passengers in what two years.

Letsflycwl 21st Jul 2017 10:41

Norwegian in their own right would be better though as their flights are for TUI and only bookable via TUI/Thomson and not really classed as their own flights.

Great to see the rise in the passenger figures though !!

OltonPete 21st Jul 2017 16:12

May stats
 
bycrewlgw
Route......................................pax.....avg pax...Load Factor
CARDIFF PARIS (CHARLES DE GAULLE).....4959....80....... 68%
CARDIFF BERLIN (TEGEL).......................1264.....49........ 41%
CARDIFF DUSSELDORF.............................234....29.........38%
CARDIFF MUNICH.................................. 1254....45.........38%
CARDIFF CORK........................................914....57....... . 48%
CARDIFF DUBLIN....................................7643...66......... 56%
CARDIFF MILAN (MALPENSA)................... 2387...66......... 56%
CARDIFF ROME (FIUMICINO)...................1442...80......... 68%
CARDIFF VERONA VILLAFRANCA..............1130....62......... 53%
CARDIFF AMSTERDAM..........................11824....66.........75-83%
CARDIFF FARO.....................................5873....113.......7 9%
CARDIFF ALICANTE...............................7597....165........92 %
CARDIFF BARCELONA............................2856...159.........88%
CARDIFF MALAGA.................................7272....152........84 %
CARDIFF PALMA DE MALLORCA..............4461..124..........69%
CARDIFF TENERIFE (SURREINA SOFIA).1376..,.172..........91%
CARDIFF London City..........................2258....25...........31%
CARDIFF Anglesey...............................989....13..........
CARDIFF Belfast City............................3832..62............79%
CARDIFF Edinburgh.............................8036...74............6 3%
CARDIFF Glasgow..............................2058......61........... 78%
CARDIFF Guernsey.. ............................543.....21
CARDIFF Jersey.................................1615..... 62............80%
CARDIFF Newcastle.............................1281.... 25........... 79%
CARDIFF Aberdeen...............................830........with NCL

CREDIT: CAA for the pax figures and punctuality stats but load factors estimated based on what I thought operated

One hopes Flybe have done their sums when they signed with WAG as some of those 195 routes are not great even without getting on to the subject of yield. However the Dash 8 routes other than LCY have promise - Paris twice a day as a Dash, EDI three times a day as a Dash, get rid of MXP, TXL MUC and unfortunately Faro - just a thought.

Pete

Letsflycwl 21st Jul 2017 17:44

Got to remember that BE now have competition (well summer only) with Ryanair.

Shame about the TXL loads, mind you it is summer and Berlin is more of a winter citybreak. Same could be said about MUC too.

MXP has previously had better months so hopefully it's just a blip for May.

Do agree that a fleet of Dash 8's would be more suitable for the closer destinations of CDG, EDI, GLA, DUB, JER & ORK.

The E95 is surely better suited to the longer sun & ski routes.

Who knows what Flybe have got planned for CWL.

AirGuru 25th Jul 2017 11:03

Those stats are looking rather healthy in large parts.

Be interesting to see how all this bunch get on throughout the rest of the Summer, i believe the next batch of CAA stats is due for release on the 28th.

There remain some opportunities to exploit at CWL for BE, although i must agree with Pete above. BE really do need to concentrate on the key routes, and those that remain profitable (if any). MXP, TXL and DUS have never really taken off (excuse the pun), and the aircraft can be used on other more useful destinations. Still surprised that BHD hasn't been upgraded to an E195 or even made double daily, it's continually been the jewel in the crown of BE routes from CWL.

AirGuru 1st Aug 2017 21:32

QR announcement should be pretty soon now.

ATNotts 2nd Aug 2017 09:45


Originally Posted by AirGuru (Post 9849356)
QR announcement should be pretty soon now.

Hopefully not thwarted by the political shenanigans between Qatar and Saudi Arabia, UAE and others at the moment.

mustrum_ridcully 9th Aug 2017 12:24

CWL - LCY to be scrapped
Airline Flybe is scrapping its Cardiff Airport to London City service - Wales Online

bcn_boy 9th Aug 2017 12:34


Originally Posted by mustrum_ridcully (Post 9856955)

Makes sense, train is quicker and it was only intended as a temporary fix. With any luck Flybe will keep the aircraft at Cardiff and use it on existing and hopefully some new routes.

daz211 9th Aug 2017 13:16

I would love to see an Anglesey to London (STN) route :ok:

bcn_boy 9th Aug 2017 13:40

Cardiff to Manchester and/ or Leeds would be a good use of the aircraft. Both cities are long journeys by road or rail from the South Wales region.

compton3bravo 9th Aug 2017 13:50

You are joking DAZ.

daz211 9th Aug 2017 14:52

No not joking just wishful thinking
Having just moved to the island I'm shocked just how complicated it is to reach Manchester airport buy public transport and how long it takes to drive to London / Essex not forgetting the total shock of how much virgin trains charge
I think the route would work rather well in both directions think it would be more popular than the Cardiff route with the number of self connections available at Stansted I don't see how it couldn't work.

davidjohnson6 9th Aug 2017 15:30

daz - perhaps you could convince Anglesey County Council to pay for a PSO route to London ? It seems like the only way to make such a route profitable for an airline


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