Helvetic have announced new flights from BRS starting next month...does anyone know if this is the end of the CWL route? If not, it will be given the comparable fares!
CWL management must do something about this, very quickly!

What do you suggest, hold Helvetic management with guns to their heads until to they submit to the will of the Mysterons (sorry i meant CWL management)?:rolleyes:

Looks like the flights are still operating from Cardiff but its via Bristol ! Obviously they are trying to improve the loads

no cwl flight showing after march

I believe that there is nothing that management can do as it is the airlines decision to operate the route.

However i do find it suspicious that the airline are operating on the same days allthough at different times.

I know that Cardiff management deal on this route was based on long term success and growth on the route which is comendable.

I hope however that this is not the beginning of the end of Zurich at Cardiff Airport as they are a great airline.

Well, its either one or the other, but whichever it is another reflection of the state of the Welsh economy and the effect that has on all types of travel from CWL. Western Mail a couple of days ago reported high and increasing levels of unemployment and poverty in South Wales. Ergo, how many takers for the gilded slopes of Switzerland this winter? BRS is another matter, the cosy fires of Middle England (cotswolds) still have some folding stuff to splash out on such luxuries, so Helvetic have done the commercially sensible thing.
There were 18 commercial departures (plus or minus) at Cwl today, that is not going to pay the milkman.

Any chance of a Flybe base now BMIb has pulled out?

When all these LoCo operations jumped on the bandwagon there was Ryanair, EasyJet, Go, KLM Buzz and, if memory serves me correct, the ailing BMI decided to, belatedly, jump on a well played bandwagon in, pretty much, one last ditch attempt to save this ailing airline.

But, alas, they were too late, all the others had already nabbed the 'cushty' markets and BMIBaby were left with the leftovers that none of the others were interested in ... and for very good reason.

So, by attempting such operations from such low-yield catchment area(s) has served to provide the local communitity(s) with false hope, a false impression, that there was ever a profitable business structure to be had there in the first instance.

As a rule of thumb the larger the aircraft then the cheaper, per seat, it is to operate, anything less than a Boeing or Airbus sized aircraft simply couldn't compete on price with fare levels from BHX & BRS.

by starting zurich from brs.makes we wonder how many pax from the brs area travel over the bridge for the service. when brs starts will it dillute the pax nunbers from cwl. i suppose only time will tell.be nice thou if it had some idea how many travelled over from this way to use it.perhaps it might give some indication why they starting from brs.

To my mind, it is obvious what is happening here. Helvetic's pax numbers on CWL are pretty awful, and they are trying a double drop to make up numbers - I would guess they have some sort of contractual obligation with CWL to operate for a period of time, and to offset losses in the meantime, they are running a combined route.

What if this works? Good for both. If BRS is great, well at the end of some predetermined period, that would be it for CWL.

This proves the point that a lot of people have been making, but sadly too many people don't want to hear it, such is their blind spot re CWL - the market is small, highly focused and highly seasonal. That alone explains Baby's good decision.

TA

yeo valley,

Why would people from BRS cross the bridge to catch a 3 x per week service CWL/ZRH when there is a 3 x PER DAY service BHX/ZRH and with onward connections throughout Europe and the World?

ppl do strange things. perhaps more leisure than buisness ppl.

NUMB3R CRUNCH1NG
 

11 Arrivals today? Over 2 hours on average for a flight landing. Very quiet...:zzz:

Saturday's boards are terribly poor with only 11 arrivals

Its going to be a long winter for CWL this year!!

Just been on the local news here that someone from the wag has said deal on table for New York route and First Minister needs to go over there to sign it. Yeah right mate believe it when it happens! I'm sure with the govt having more control of their own budget here the general public will be happy to see their well earned taxes paying for a doomed route.

Funny no one from the airport was available for comment according to the beeb but they did give themselves a pat on the back for securing a soon to be gone Zurich route and the new Barcelona

route.BBC News - Helvetic's Cardiff-Zurich flight's Bristol stopover

B.A. Diverts
 

CWL has a BA landed from Riyadh, also a possible Washington. Are there problems at LHR? Also, KLM both Canx? Anyone know why? thanks. :ok:

My guess Foxtrot Oscar Golf?

no guessing about it....
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/EGLL.html

Took a 767 from LPL to LGW this morning. 4 times round the hold at WILLO and got in with 200m rvr. Lovely on top above about 800 feet but couldn't see the big 'sky-bridge' thingy as we taxied underneath it.

Then 3.5 hours in a car to get home.:(

Forgive me for asking but what has it to do with Cardiff ?