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Is that reliable info as I have saw elsewhere that its not expected to them and they are usually a good source. There aircraft shortage usually gets discussed on MAN a lot so can we really see them coming in daily when they are 4 weekly there and doing really well by all accounts. I do have a feeling it will be somewhere in China all the same.... |
Re the mystery carrier launching winter flights, what are the chances of a Cape Town route which was done before by LTU on a charter basis? Does this sound possible?
China has been mentioned frequently and as it would be aimed at business interests, where bookings tend to be shorter term than leisure, winter could be right. Otherwise ( the rumour did not specify long haul), could be see Tap make a return to tap into its south American network via LIS or indeed Alitalia bringing a Rome route back now that it is in repair mode (doubtful) or AF on Strasbourg? EI-BUD |
Originally Posted by EI-BUD
(Post 9413643)
China has been mentioned frequently and as it would be aimed at business interests, where bookings tend to be shorter term than leisure, winter could be right.
Long term rumours that TK were looking at IST - DUB - xxx. Not sure if that is still in play though. Can CX do bolt on to a Düsseldorf or Gatwick I wonder? |
CX would technically be China.
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Mr pedantic strikes again.
Chinese carriers (from China) tend to announce their routes via a local route application. Hong Kong carriers (From Hong Kong) announce routes via the media and via earlier leaks. |
It would follow the pattern of how CX announced DUS.
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Statement from the airline in question or whoever handles media:
A surprise route from Dublin from a major network carrier almost got announced on Tuesday. A room was booked in the Shelbourne Hotel. A time was set and a brief statement declared that “one of the world’s major airlines will announce that it is to launch a new daily service from Dublin Airport. In addition to strengthening Dublin and Ireland’s connectivity with important global markets, the route will generate millions of euro in visitor revenue, contributing to the overall Irish economy." Then it all got cancelled. The route is likely to be announced before the winter slot conference on Tuesday, or on the day. _______ Meanwhile BA have yet another run in with ATC at DUB yesterday, this must be the third or fourth time now. Wonder will BA pr department have to respond as they did for the last one! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFUZ6oHBft4 |
Any chance it might be Singapore?
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The route is daily. Daily service is too much for CX, unless a tag-on.
What about KLM, Aeroflot or SN Brussels? |
Sounds suspiciously Chinese. It's on, it's off, it's on with a press release, it's off, it's on with Government announcement, it's off (slot issues) and then finally it can be booked with a short notice start date! MAN-PEK followed a similar thread and now also waiting for MAN-PVG. Maybe they're linked, literally PVG-MAN-DUB.
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EI CEO has said QR will start in May 2017 today!
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KLM x2 daily AMS with E190 from Oct.....
Ex DUB 05.55 (same as EI codeshare) and 13.15 Ex AMS 12.00 and 21.20 (same as EI codeshare) That is AMS at 10 ans 11 daily. EI codeshare staying also. |
I'm struggling to see what KLM get out of that.
If they had come in high frequency and dumped the codeshare, it might have made sense. This won't improve their long-haul connectivity, so it has to make a standalone profit. If they were just looking for AMS-DUB point to point traffic, would Transavia not have made more sense? Early preparations for an Aer Lingus divorce? |
Hub
Just building the hub. Plenty of early morning connections from AMS. So they might as well get in on the action themselves.
Also keeping their frequent flyer base happy with Business class seats and amenities. |
KLM will get people who get frustrated with the EI product looking at AMS as a viable connection point again – not least me!
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I'm not so sure KLM is related to the above statement ;)
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Bravo to KL for relaunching the route. I always suspected that it was going to be WX operating on behalf of KL, but looks like its cityhopper
The daily frequencies gave it away that it wasn't going to be a East Asian carrier. CX tends to launch at x4 weekly. There is a five hour turnaround in LGW for the CX 350. Space for a DUB add on? |
The issue with a CX LGW tag is that slots at that time of the day aren't exactly easy to come by at the moment.
LHR isn't the only London airport having spare slot issues. 0600-1200 is pretty much full in the summer for LGW |
Some management from Hainan Airlines were in DUB over the last few days.....
First direct air route between Dublin and China on cards with Hainan Airlines move - Independent.ie |
Of the Chinese carriers, Hainan is by far the best. I assume they would operate from Beijing as that's where they are strongest. Their long haul product compares favourably to European or American competition in its own particular way.
Flying from or transiting through Pudong is a disaster in comparison due to most domestic destinations leaving from Hongqiao and delays on most departures. Hainan fly domestically from T1 in Beijing where many many years ago a Shannon airport company ran the duty free. I'm showing my age now. |
Re KLM can the BHD route be sustained with the obvious benefits of flying from DUB.
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Regarding Hainan, there was chatter that the MAN route was going to 7-10 weekly with 3 of those flights heading to either Dublin or Edinburgh in the turn around.
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Anyone know what this Delta JFK flight is about? Carrying media for Joe Biden visit?
DL9330 19.20 (21.20) T4-B41 - 06.45 (09.36) T2-3A - Flight Complete DL9928 21.45 (22.40 EST) T2-422 - 23.11 (00.54+1) T4-B28 - Boarding |
Also some chatter during the week about HNA group choosing ireland for their NonChinese head office.
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At 200sqm that's nothing more than a local office.
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Originally Posted by LAX_LHR
(Post 9415130)
Regarding Hainan, there was chatter that the MAN route was going to 7-10 weekly with 3 of those flights heading to either Dublin or Edinburgh in the turn around.
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Finnair & Norwegian
Finnair will take over 4 (morning flights) of 9 weekly from Nordic Regional starting 26 March 2017.
Norwegian will also extend HEL year round from October, operating twice weekly. |
https://www.dublinairport.com/latest...ger-experience
Dublin Airport Invests €2M In New Self-Service Check-In Kiosks To Improve Passenger Experience Aer Lingus, Ryanair, CityJet And Flybe Passengers To Initially Benefit From New Technology; T2 Touchless System A World First Dublin Airport has invested €2 million to improve the check-in experience for four of its major airline customers. Dublin Airport has installed 62 new self-service kiosks (SSKs) between Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 that will allow the airport and its airline customers to process greater numbers of passengers by increasing the peak check-in capacity. Passengers using the new self-service bag drop kiosks can, depending on the airline, check in for their flight, tag their own bag and dispatch it into the baggage system much faster than would be the case using traditional check-in desks. The new SSKs are initially being used by Aer Lingus, Ryanair, CityJet and Flybe passengers, but several other airlines at Dublin Airport have already expressed interest in using the same technology. Terminal One now has 15 self-service bag drop units available in check-in Area 13, which is the area used by Ryanair. There are three further self-service bag drop units in check-in Area 7 for common-use by other airlines. Passengers from CityJet and Flybe will be the first to enjoy the benefits of these SSKs. Terminal Two has 44 new self-service units in the Aer Lingus check-in area. “This €2 million investment streamlines and simplifies the baggage check-in process for passengers,” said Dublin Airport Managing Director Vincent Harrison. “It will reduce check-in queue times and also increase the overall capacity at check-in in both Terminal 1 and Terminal 2,” he added. Dublin Airport, working with its technology provider Rockwell Collins in conjunction with Pulse.aero, delivered a tailored process to suit each airline. “While we used the same technology in both terminals, it was adapted to specifically meet the needs of our airline customers,” Mr Harrison said. “The new self-service systems are already having a significant impact on check-in times at Dublin Airport,” he added. “This project is one of a large number of investments that Dublin Airport is making across both terminals, at the boarding gates and on the airfield to add capacity and to continue to improve the passenger experience,” according to Mr Harrison. “The self-service kiosk and bag drop installation underlines our ongoing commitment to ensuring that passengers enjoy the very latest technological advances in their journey through Dublin Airport.” The 15 new self-service units in T1 one use a one-step approach. This allows passengers that have checked in online to take their bags straight to the self-service bag drop, where they can print their bag tags, attach the tags and then dispatch the bag straight onto the baggage system. In T2, there are now has 32 self-service kiosks and 12 self-service bag drop units in the Aer Lingus check-in area. Passengers first use their reference number to print a boarding card and/or weigh their bag and print a bag tag. Once tagged, the luggage can be taken to the self-service bag drop position and the bag is automatically dispatched. The bag drop units in Terminal 2 are the world's first touchless bag drops kiosks, as they automatically detect that the tag is attached, and the weight is correct and then dispatch the bag without the need for the passenger to touch any button or screen. “Touchless bag drop means that passengers can drop their bag at a self-service machine that requires only minor user interaction, thus eliminating many of the steps they have to deal with when checking in,” said Chris Forrest, vice president of Airport Systems for Rockwell Collins. To make the system as easy to use as possible for passengers the new kiosks are fitted with audio prompts for visually impaired passengers, and availability indicators so that passengers can immediately see which devices are free. The new system has also been designed so that in the future there is the potential for passengers to be able to make payments at the kiosks for services such as additional bags fast track security and lounge access. Great to see future services can also be purchased and Cork is next. ------- New USPC lounge is opening in the next 2 weeks and it's also looking pretty smart. |
Dublin's main runway 28/10 will be closed on weekday nights for 15 months from September for maintenance - details here. Flights after 11PM will be using R16/34. So far so routine, but it means that late flights may be routed over South East Dublin, the posher areas of the city where the pop stars, politicians and TV presenters live. By the time departing planes are over Dartry, where Bono and The Edge live, they should be high enough as to not be a problem ...
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Originally Posted by bnt
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Dublin's main runway 28/10 will be closed on weekday nights for 15 months from September for maintenance - details here. Flights after 11PM will be using R16/34. So far so routine, but it means that late flights may be routed over South East Dublin, the posher areas of the city where the pop stars, politicians and TV presenters live. By the time departing planes are over Dartry, where Bono and The Edge live, they should be high enough as to not be a problem ...
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On Thursday the local council announced a major review into the new runway and it will examine the impact of:
* - How conditions around operation will impact its efficiency and operability. * - Benefits of a longer runway of 3,400m or 3,700m * - EU rules on noise since conditions were attached * - Local Area Plan to be updated to reflect future development Not due to report until next January but might get the two operation conditions removed by relevant people. Suggestion numbers will pass 27 million this year also. |
June traffic just short of 2,730,000 up 9.5%. daa will release usual stats soon!
Daily passengers exceeded 100,000 on a few days during the month. First 6 months have now exceeded 13 million. |
Originally Posted by Jamie2k9
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June traffic just short of 2,730,000 up 9.5%. daa will release usual stats soon!
Daily passengers exceeded 100,000 on a few days during the month. First 6 months have now exceeded 13 million. Was the H1 2016 actual tracking forecast or exceeding plan? |
Out of interest what's the comparison to H1 2015? Was the H1 2016 actual tracking forecast or exceeding plan? H1 16 - 13 million daa don't really do public predictions but the figures match capacity increase pretty well and considering no major EI growth over the period where for example next year there will be 3 or 4 more A333 operating across the pound. |
Emirates will use a 2 class B77W from 1st January on EK 163/164
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United
16JUL16 Update ? UNITED W16 International Operation Changes :: Routesonline
Newark – Dublin 29OCT16 – 08MAR17 Service operates 1 daily instead of 2 daily, however operational aircraft switches from 757 to 767-400ER (777-200ER from 19DEC16 to 15FEB17 and from 28FEB17-8MAR17) IAD looks more less the same as last winter. ____ Emirates will use a 2 class B77W from 1st January on EK 163/164 |
Just had a cheeky look at UA's B772 business class...10 abreast vs 5 abreast on EI A333 to EWR, I must be making some mistake here right?
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Just had a cheeky look at UA's B772 business class...10 abreast vs 5 abreast on EI A333 to EWR, I must be making some mistake here right? The 2 class B772 is 50 J, 217 Y. The J class is 2-2-2 with 2 rows just 2-2. The B764 is 2-1-2 |
Originally Posted by Jamie2k9
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They are using 3 class B772, 8 F, 40 J, 221 Y. The J class is 2-4-2.
The 2 class B772 is 50 J, 217 Y. The J class is 2-2-2 with 2 rows just 2-2. The B764 is 2-1-2 https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/aircraft/777/200/ |
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