The AA 788 has been deferred to August as posted before.

AC change is a surprise.

Norwegian will fly 6 times a week to Stewart (SWF) next winter

LH will continue the increased MUC schedule into winter (7 to 13 weekly)
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Aer Lingus to operate new services to Bordeaux (x4) and Bilbao (x3) over full/part winter and also increase Hamburg to x10 (5), Zurich x10 (7) with extra frequency to Venice, Lyon, Rome and Canary Islands.

SFO will now operate daily between 1 March and 31 December and 5 weekly between 1 January and 28 February.

IAD will now operate daily in Nov/Dec and MCO goes 4 weekly over the same period.

What happened to the supposed EI Las Vegas route that was planned for the winter?

There are reports of a fire in an office in Terminal One this morning. It doesn't sound too serious, but the terminal was evacuated.

2.6 million in May up 5%

Europe 1.4 million +4%
UK 843,000 +1%
Transatlantic 321,000 +18%
Other Int 56,000 +3%
Domestic 9,000 -9%

Year to date 10.9 million +6% (640,000)

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest...dublin-airport

Great Report!

Anyone know if Aer Lingus' direct San Francisco flight is always €2,500 return Business Class.

Trying to see about heading to California next year and prices on Aer Lingus are inflated massively compared to American Airlines via ORD.

What's the cheapest I can get this route?

2,500 is good value direct cannot see it dropping lower.

AA prices reflect their product.

At Christmas I booked out to LAX and back from SFO in July for less than €1,900. You need to be flexible, play around with dates and get in six months early but sometimes there are deals to be had.

Read today that between 05.00 and 00.00 runway capacity is at 87%, if you took away the free slots between 05.00 and 06.00 which will never really appeal widely to carriers (currently unused) then it will likely take it to over 90% during the summer months.

LH
 

In addition to extra daily MUC in winter, FRA will also increase from 3 to 4 daily with new 08.55 ex DUB and 07.10 ex FRA starting on 29 October.

I got quoted £1200 return for Boeing 787. That is a better product

If their OTP on MAN was anything to go by last year, that's pretty risky. Also most of the US major's business product ain't great domestically, JetBlue aside.

If you're happy with the product and it makes the best financial sense for you, fire away.

If you can get EI for under 2k though by being flexible with dates, I'd bite.

I've taken Aer Lingus Business Class and it wasn't much different, just a standard flatbed. Infact it was poorer due to the Flight Attendants disappearing for hours mid flight.

I would choose EI before BA, AF and LH based on experience of all three on 10 hour plus flights, however it sounds like the American product might best match your overall requirements.

Unhappy DAA boss
 

Bit of whinging from the Dubs oh dear what a shame!


UK tourism to Ireland in 'freefall' - BBC News

BFS Watcher, you do realise BFS faces the exact same problems......

If I was you I would worry less about what the Dubs are whinging about and worry more about your own ability to travel and pay for stuff in next coming years

BFS Watcher has a point, passenger numbers at DUB are only a miserable 6% higher than 2016.
I wonder if they will still need the emergency temporary boarding area under construction beside terminal 2.

It's called sustainable growth, it's a more realistic reflection. No airport can deliver double digit growth long term.

If you look back at passenger stats over the last 20 years just 3 years had double digit year on year growth most recently 2015/2016 the rest was between 5-8%.

Was trying to make the point to BFS Watcher that 6% growth is a clear sign of success, no matter how you look at it.

6% growth heaped on top of 10% (?) growth in 2016 is hardly grounds for shadenfreude from Aldergrove.

What? With 900,000 now travelling on BFS-LGW. Eh, no we are a constituent part of the United Kingdom, we use GBP.

Much deeper problems than currency you know.

Double-digit growth and growth that massively fluctuates are generally signs of a small airport. At Dublin's current scale, neither is hugely likely.

If Aer Lingus/Ryanair were to add and A320/B737 at Cork or Shannon, they are likely to get double-digit growth (and more than likely no growth the following year as another airframe is very unlikely). If the same happens in Dublin it may add 1% to the figures.

Ni is a price sensitive market so we are seeing growth because we are introducing carriers who produce lower costs and more affordable flights. I don't see why the growth couldn't stay if we had more of this.

I think Norweigan is what we need for TATL, for example, rather than United.

I agree, it's very leisure oriented, cost sensitive and seasonal. VS expanding is great for NI also.

You're missing a basic maths issue here. 6% of 27.9m passengers is 1.7m! This is almost one third of total BFS numbers! Doing big % increases on a large number is not sustainable but high single digit on a large number is far from failure!

What are you expecting from the cabin crew?

Maybe you could give a detailed explanation of your flight and then we could judge.

...but (gentle hint) maybe in a forum other than this one which is about Dublin routes, airport developments etc? Perhaps "Passengers and SLF" where a discussion of individual Aer Lingus passenger experience would be more relevant? :ok:

Sorry, i'll not ruin your life with my presence.

Having a bad day, are we? This forum is about Dublin airport, and information about new schedules/aircraft/developments etc at Dublin airport (see above: "topics about airports, routes and airline business"). The passengers and SLF forum is about discussing the passenger experience, and I'm just suggesting it might be more relevant for a (non-airport-specific) discussion about one airline's business class versus another. That's all.

Unfortunate timing for the new QR route with the political situation there, hope the daily frequency can be sustained initially.

Any news on the rumored Hainan China route?

Belfast Airport aims ?Bexit? campaign at travellers from Republic

Er you do realise that BFS is advertising for passengers from Irish Republic.........

As for tourism numbers being down, car hire agency used in BFS said that 50% of the cars they are hiring out for longer than 2 days are being used by people who will cross the border.
Site manager's assessment was that reduction of visitors from UK will have a 3 month lag from Dublin to Belfast but it will follow on from it and numbers will be down.

Parting shot was maybe there will be an uplift from Tory politicians crawling to the DUP.

I am presuming the grass being tunred and uplifted at the airport yesterday was being turned into sileage.

The simple fact is, we don't ultimately know what will happen with Brexit. Soft,...little change....hard...losses in some sectors but potential to chase business from multinational UK based airlines requiring an EU AOC.

Then there's the potential terrorist issues affecting US Transfer visitors' perception of UK, France, Europe as a whole.

Then there's the UK economy itself. Various experst claimed it would go off a cliff immediately after Brexit vote, didn't happen. And yet new mortgage approvals are drastically down in last quarter, a worrying sign. Who do we belive eh?

Weak sterling? Positives and negatives, all depends how it pans out. Would cut number of UK vistors looking to EU and North America, but would greatly appeal to pax inbound to UK from these markets, as well as making UK tourists look east to weaker currencies. I'm certainly not willing to bet on how things will look in 2 years, that's for sure.

Drop in Great Britain tourism won't affect us. We have back/forth relationship since we are in the same country and use GBP not Euros.

If as indicated that 50% of hire car comps business is to hirers visiting whole of Ireland then how does NI become immune ?

On picking up I counted approx 10 cars with ROI plates in hire car drop off area who clearly had 1 way car hires and using BFS to fly from. The idea that BFS is immune is laughable.

I and friends could just as easily used Dub but we needed to be in a specific place flying from BFS early and we pretty much spent time all our in ROI.

On other occasions BFS will not be suitable.

I'm specifically referring to flying not car hire.

On an inward flight of real visitors (i,e exculding Residents arriving back) the car hire companys reckon that 20 -30 % will hire a car.

Suprised at the stats I have spoken with number of different rental agencies and they view it that a flight of circa 170 people coming into UK and Ireland smaller airports that 60% of passengers are returning residents or to family, Of the remaing 70 odd tourists there is an expect conversion factor of 20% i,e circa 14 cars rented, sometimes high as 30% sometimes lower but that is the conversion factor.

Rental agencies see the reduction in tourism numbers very quickly as their car fleets do not move.

As I said Belfast had lots of ROI registered cars there and last time dropped off in Dublin there were prob 3-4 NI cars at the off site rental place for just one agency,

SEN-DUB recommences on the 29th October 2017 with 18 weekly flights by Flybe/Stobart Air