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gavinhicks 20th Jul 2015 10:24

anyone know how the new doncaster route is performing?

owenc 20th Jul 2015 10:56


Originally Posted by EI-EIDW (Post 9052389)
Appears Ryanair may be a little rattled and on the defence since IAG is going through. Next winter they already increase the number of aircraft based from 21 to 25 but apeculation now is it will be increased up to 30.

Wonder if it will!!

Ryanair battle with Aer Lingus to spark passenger price war - Independent.ie

Wow 30, that is alot.

alserire 20th Jul 2015 13:08

Delays are pretty bad at the moment. Massive rush in the mornings from 6 to 8 a.m. The knock on delays have been going on for a while now. Doesn't help that there are often delays at the other end. For example our friends in Italy are not exactly known for the speed they turn aircraft around in at the bigger airports so delays on the outbound can be made worse by delays on the inbound. It's definitely getting worse so improved numbers, to be welcomed for sure, seem to be stretching runway/atc capacity.

2 p.m. GMT here now and a good few EI planes are already running quite late. Knock on effects later again. It's been a daily issue for a while now.

j636 20th Jul 2015 20:07

Given the morning rush 33 departures ph is designed on a single runway, even though dual is allowed it is not always possible hence the cap not been increased. Can it really be the problem, I think it's the return sectors with handling issues where the real issue is as you say. Compounded by the FCO mess.

Can we expect some contract changes where EI don't match BA/IB in handling at some stage and I think service may improve. OTP and Catering are issues which need immediate attention.

stab3.5up 20th Jul 2015 22:19

I would suggest that small steps and changes will occur in both DUB and BHD over the coming weeks and months. I think that once the ball starts rolling it will be swift

racedo 20th Jul 2015 22:52


Appears Ryanair may be a little rattled and on the defence since IAG is going through. Next winter they already increase the number of aircraft based from 21 to 25 but apeculation now is it will be increased up to 30.

Wonder if it will!!

http://m.independent.ie/business/iri...-31388694.html
Hardly

EI will be shedding senior management and organisation will be in a state of flux, standard issue in a takeover.

IAG need EI revenues to go up significantly to be able to pay for the takeover.

FR driving prices downwards on routes it competes with EI hurts IAG's return and may force EI off some routes.

Jamie2k9 20th Jul 2015 23:06

Racedo

EI did well last winter against the increased capacity and the exact same this year will happen. EI dont drop prices to compete with FR dumping capacity. They will continue to manage capacity.

FR have cancelled some increased capacity this winter to the UK already!

As for forcing them off routes when did they last manage that at DUB, Note they decided to join FR on two routes this year so already not bothered by FR dumping capacity on routes and FR have failed to get rid of them in previous years also.

FR dump capacity and realize they are going no where so decide to make money and put up with EI.

You are right about managment etc but thats good news in the eyes of passengers ans most employees!

Jamie2k9 30th Jul 2015 13:31

Yesterday 29 July saw 2.5 million passengers exceeded which is the busiest in the airports history. The final figure should see 150-200,000 added on once full stats are released.

Latest News > Bank Holiday Weekend Caps Busiest Month Ever

EI-A330-300 1st Aug 2015 15:03

Re-EK, comments above cleared it up by EIDW

Anyone know whats happened ET LAX is showing as estimating at 23.15 (18 hours late!), aircraft in DUB...

ia350 4th Aug 2015 22:02

Is it thru Emirates will be going 3 daily soon ?

EI-A330-300 4th Aug 2015 23:45

On 31 July a planning application was submitted for A380 stand at T2-Pier E (Gate 426), nice and close to runway to ensure no impact on operations. Upper air bridge will be added.

http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/North...s/00501428.pdf

http://documents.fingalcoco.ie/North...s/00501401.pdf


Is it thru Emirates will be going 3 daily soon ?
I expect daa would prefer larger capacity on both daily as a morning flight wouldn't exactly be easy to accommodate.

gavinhicks 7th Aug 2015 16:19

What's the uptake like on the Ethiopian airlines services from the Irish side

CabinCrewe 8th Aug 2015 12:41


Originally Posted by gavinhicks (Post 9074202)
What's the uptake like on the Ethiopian airlines services from the Irish side

You would imagine it would be quite limited unless punters are being directed to cheapest flights via Expedia etc...

Una Due Tfc 8th Aug 2015 14:37


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 9075123)
You would imagine it would be quite limited unless punters are being directed to cheapest flights via Expedia etc...

Just tried a dummy return booking on expedia for end of September.

AA via CLT: €627
AA via PHL: €642
BA via LHR: €664
ET direct: €692

I'd personally be willing to pay the extra for a direct flight. ET are rated 8.3/10 by Expedia users, versus 7.2/10 for BA and 6.5/10 for AA on these routes

PPRuNeUser0176 8th Aug 2015 15:48

ET doing good west bound not sure about east.

Big test is when EI touch down in LAX next May (4/5 weekly). The daily SFO in July has carried incredible numbers, more less complelty sold out all July and a lot of August.

PPRuNeUser0176 14th Aug 2015 11:14

July traffic reached almost 2.7 million (record) up 17% on last year.

Europe 1.5 million up 14%
UK 794,000 up 16%
Transatlantic 320,000 up 26%
Other International 87,000 up 42%
Domestic 8,000 down 10%

In first 7 months almost 14.2 million passengers up 15%

Latest News > Almost 2.7 Million Passengers In July At Dublin Airport

Great figures but expect they have now peaked for this year.

LAX_LHR 19th Aug 2015 19:28

Airline route is reporting Etihad is cutting DUB to 1 daily this winter.

I'm genuinely gobsmacked! Has Emirates affected them that much? To think there is talk of Qatar coming to DUB too.

Jamie2k9 19th Aug 2015 19:54


Airline route is reporting Etihad is cutting DUB to 1 daily this winter.

I'm genuinely gobsmacked! Has Emirates affected them that much? To think there is talk of Qatar coming to DUB too.
EY passenger numbers have/are grown but yield has tumbled since EK arrived. B777 was only deployed for show and not commercial reasons. They added around 20,000 last winter even after B777 was dropped for most!

EY have said a few weeks ago 787 will be deployed most likely once they receive J/Y config from next year.

LAX_LHR 19th Aug 2015 19:57

Cheers Jamie,

Dublin has often mirrored MAN when it comes to Etihad, so, this news is quite shocking.

I just didn't think things had got that bad for EY at Dublin. That said, EY website and all GDS platforms still taking bookings for 2 daily, so, I suppose it's a wait and see.

With EDI getting chopped to 5 weekly too, seems Etihad isn't quite able to keep up with the Joneses down in Dubai.

ia350 19th Aug 2015 20:06

Doesn't surprise me too much , most people I know who go to Asia or Aus go through Dubai .


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