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EI-A330-300 12th Mar 2014 15:30

High Court blocks SIPTU aviation strike - RTÉ News

racedo 12th Mar 2014 16:00

Pretty much as expected to be fair.

Jack1985 12th Mar 2014 16:54

Well I can clarify now, there will be absolute war as a result of this.

ayroplain 12th Mar 2014 16:59


Well I can clarify now, there will be absolute war as a result of this.
Can you explain what you mean by this statement.

Jack1985 12th Mar 2014 17:14


Can you explain what you mean by this statement.
Our right to strike as a result of breach of contract by our employers has been removed. This is an absolutely disgraceful situation, compounded by lies told by the DAA and Ryanair (who had nothing to do with the situation but add their bit to be being the biggest pr*cks in aviation), I believe that is what I mean by my statement. Excuse my anger, but this is a pretty worrying development in which a party in Government, Labour is supposedly for public sector workers.

ayroplain 12th Mar 2014 17:25


Our right to strike as a result of breach of contract by our employers has been removed. This is an absolutely disgraceful situation, compounded by lies told by the DAA and Ryanair (who had nothing to do with the situation but add their bit to be being the biggest pr*cks in aviation),
I see this as an injunction - no "rights" have been removed as of yet. Ryanair has everything to do with this. The union action was set to cost them and their customers a lot of trouble and money in a dispute not of their making.

But you haven't explained what you mean by "war" and what this will involve.

Jack1985 12th Mar 2014 17:28

I can discuss via PM as revealing any more information here is pretty unwise on my behalf.

racedo 12th Mar 2014 17:30


Labour is supposedly for public sector workers.
Get real.

Irish Labour Party has always been about feathering their own pockets.

Jack1985 12th Mar 2014 17:33


Get real.

Irish Labour Party has always been about feathering their own pockets.
Indeed get real, and for once hide your bias.

ayroplain 12th Mar 2014 17:54


I can discuss via PM as revealing any more information here is pretty unwise on my behalf.
In that case probably best not to divulge anything and let us read between the lines.

I am one who believes that no group of people should have the power to hold the whole country/people to ransom and I include airports and such as Electricity/Gas in that category. While welcoming this injunction I do not see it in any way as a statement that this power will be removed once and for all. Pity that the judge did not elaborate or maybe he did and it hasn't been published yet.

EI-A330-300 12th Mar 2014 17:59

Jack

I don't see what the issue is, your right has not being denied to strike. The union you pay to be repersented by screwed up big time on the balliout and breached existing agreements with the daa on industrail acrion. Think you need to take the issue up with them or join another union who woudn't screw it up.

It's sort of pointless now anyway as Ryanair and Aer Lingus are continuting with the revised schedule and most other airlines will probaly follow.

SIPTU will seek legal advice to develop strategy to "withdraw labour & take industrial action" if agreement can't be reached.

seeryger 12th Mar 2014 18:03

Right to Strike
 
Jack1985 - the High Court of Ireland issued the injunction to prevent the strike. Instead of lashing out at government and whoever else you feel responsible you should remember that you live in a democracy where the rule of the courts is part of that process. Instead of hysterical posting you should calmly request of your union leadership to appeal the decision to the surpreme court. That is the legal process, whining isn't.

Jack1985 12th Mar 2014 18:33


Jack1985 - the High Court of Ireland issued the injunction to prevent the strike. Instead of lashing out at government and whoever else you feel responsible you should remember that you live in a democracy where the rule of the courts is part of that process. Instead of hysterical posting you should calmly request of your union leadership to appeal the decision to the surpreme court. That is the legal process, whining isn't.
Fair post.

Let me just sign off with this, every €1 to the IASS, I get €0.10 back. Not fair regardless of whatever your views are on the matter, particularly as my contract defines that should not be the case.

racedo 12th Mar 2014 20:57


Let me just sign off with this, every €1 to the IASS, I get €0.10 back. Not fair regardless of whatever your views are on the matter, particularly as my contract defines that should not be the case.
Nope it isn't so freeze where you are in and invest in your own.

Not sure whether Ireland is like UK where you can transfer your pension out.

Jack1985 12th Mar 2014 21:23


Nope it isn't so freeze where you are in and invest in your own.

Not sure whether Ireland is like UK where you can transfer your pension out.
Are you lecturing me on something you have zero clue about? Stick to Ryanair and you're usual spin.

racedo 12th Mar 2014 22:41


Are you lecturing me on something you have zero clue about? Stick to Ryanair and you're usual spin.
Less need to be aggressive.

If your getting a negative 90% write off back from everything you invest in future then stop doing it.
Its your money so put it into a plan that gets a return.

Jack1985 12th Mar 2014 22:47


If your getting a negative 90% write off back from everything you invest in future then stop doing it.
Its your money so put it into a plan that gets a return.
You do realise we are bound to pay it as per contract?

racedo 12th Mar 2014 23:36


You do realise we are bound to pay it as per contract?
Think you need serious legal advice as an onerous contract IF it is as you decrcibe is likely unenforceable because there is no benefit to you.

Jack1985 12th Mar 2014 23:45


Think you need serious legal advice as an onerous contract IF it is as you decrcibe is likely unenforceable because there is no benefit to you.
The worse factor is new employees joining either get or don't get the job by signing up to a pension scheme that they will most likely not get (exclude DAA staff from that one), which is very upsetting for those staff. I really don't want to give out much more information because its pretty reckless of me to do that, but let me just say this racedo, do you not really think if all of us could get out of IASS now while we can we would? legally we can't.

racedo 12th Mar 2014 23:56


but let me just say this racedo, do you not really think if all of us could get out of IASS now while we can we would? legally we can't.
Time to get your Union to get you out of it...............if they claim they can't then find a solicitor who can.
Freeze whatever you have and invest elsewhere.
Company can't sack you for getting out of Pension scheme because they are not one and the same.


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