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jethro15 14th Nov 2010 16:20


22 new a/c arriving in 2011 and 9 are already allocated!?
Not 37?

jethro's UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings - Ryanair

LGS6753 14th Nov 2010 16:33

Jethro,

The 37 you list are new airframe arrivals. The 22 they refer to are net new, i.e. after accounting for (presumably 15) disposals. FR have been defleeting their older 738s for some time.

Panic over? :ok:

FR- 14th Nov 2010 17:15

My question would be, if we are no longer placing orders for new a/c, will we start to keep a/c for more than 5 years?

fr-

bia botal 15th Nov 2010 10:32


My question would be, if we are no longer placing orders for new a/c, will we start to keep a/c for more than 5 years?
I would hope so or there will be none left in 10.

Amelia Earhart 15th Nov 2010 16:28

Derry - Alicante
 
In July-October 2009 LDY-ALC carried 10601 pax and in July-October 2010 it carried 10042 but now the route has been axed.

(I have deliberately ignored the figures from April to June due to the Volcano and ATC strikes and also to allow a comparison with the shorter season the previous year.)

OK, figures are slightly down and it says nothing about yields but would it not have made more sense to keep the route on the original shorter season and if necessary reduce it to one flight per week until the recession ends. That would improve yields and allow the route to establish itself better against offerings from BFS and the new LDY-FAO route.

But to axe it completely seems to be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Bring it back: June - Sep, 1 x flight per week!

eu01 15th Nov 2010 20:00

Germany
 
MOL has acknowledged that Ryanair is planning to cut even more German routes from its 2011 Summer schedule. O'Leary will give more details only a few weeks ahead of Christmas. For now, one can draw some conclusions from the ongoing talks with Berlin, Bremen and Weeze airports.
Well, the introduction of 8€ tax wasn't a wise move of the German government, nevertheless we might wonder how vulnerable to fairly small changes in these conditions Ryanair really is.

And at least one of MOL's opinions concerning Germany has my fool backing. He thinks Berlin's new BBI all-in-one airport is a "nonsense idea", "very expensive and complicated.” “Berlin used to have three well-operating airports, Tegel, Tempelhof and Schoenefeld, well developed and able to compete,” said O'Leary in his interview with the "Tagesspiegel". “But the construction of a fanciful, shiny giant airport, the idea pursued by politicians, is harmful.” “By blocking any competition Berlin can only lose”.

And the lack of competition in Brandenburg is obvious. Not only big ones, but also smaller and more distant airports like these in Neuhardenberg and Eberswalde-Finow, both having the runways good enough to serve big passenger jets, were banned from such operations. Too apparently just to prevent any competition with the new BBI in the majesty of the law.
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apaul 15th Nov 2010 21:24

As usual O'Leary is talking ill-informed nonsense. The three Berlin airports did not compete against each other, and it has long been agreed that Tempelhof would close on environmental grounds as it is in a completely built up area.

Janu 16th Nov 2010 11:54

I've just ordered my copy of 'The Girls of Ryanair Cabin Crew Charity Calendar 2011'. :)

Jamie2k9 16th Nov 2010 22:57

Just booked to fly from DUB-TFS (2 adults - 1 checked bag) on Dec 27 for a week.

I booked DUB - TFS with Ryanair and TFS to DUB with Aer Lingus. I saved around €180.00.

eu01 17th Nov 2010 03:46

@ posts #94 and 95.
Are we going to continue this thread by stating "I ordered a cup of tea and a sandwich flying from A to B"?

Sure, your news are more neutral than e.g. citing news agencies "More than 100 angry passengers refused to leave a Ryanair flight Wednesday after it was diverted to Belgium, demanding that they be taken home". Sorry to hear this, as it won't help FR getting more pax in the future, that's the kind of publicity really unnecessary in tough times.

Centrefire 17th Nov 2010 08:17

Balaton
 
Have been hearing rumours that FR are to return to Balaton next spring. Anyone know the truth?

FR- 17th Nov 2010 12:49

jamie2k9, glad you saved so much, you would saved even more on staff travel :E

riverrock 17th Nov 2010 13:57

Any idea what the press conference in Dub today is about??

eu01 17th Nov 2010 15:42

Balaton
 
FR is rumoured to be planning the return to Hungary before Summer. Probably it's not decided yet (or not officially known) which one destination will be shown the green light; BUD or Sármellék (Balaton).

Regrettably, no news about any activities at the site of the new low-cost Alba airport near Székesfehérvár, previously scheduled to start this year. Looks like there are severe financing problems and it's probably discontinued. It's a pity, because it would be ideally situated, half way between the two most popular Hungarian destinations: Budapest and the Lake Balaton.

WJ888 17th Nov 2010 16:37

I checked the Wikipedia page regarding Balaton Airport, and it's stating Ryanair will restart flights from Balaton from April, to Frankfurt-Hahn and London Stansted.

Jamie2k9 17th Nov 2010 18:25

Ryanair cut further flights from Dublin in Jan 2011 as new airport charges come into effect.

48 weekly flights axed

DUB-ORK - 7 flights cut

Reductions on other flights to Leeds, Glasgow, Edinburgh, East-Midlands and Manchester.

This cuts are no surprise as at the end of October Ryanair decided to increase flights to UK from DUB.

Ryanair to axe some Dublin routes next year - RTÉ News

davidjohnson6 17th Nov 2010 19:03

I do not want to be anti-Ireland, but if the experience of Aerolineas Argentinas around 2002 / 2003 is anything to go by, consumer demand for aviation in Ireland, Greece and possibly Portugal may well see a significant fall in the next 18 months.

eu01 17th Nov 2010 19:06

Ryanair cut further flights
 
Oh where, oh where, will all these new planes go?

I suspect that the cuts at DUB won't be significant in Summer, even so there are quite a few new aircraft yet to allocate. Any suggestions?

Jamie2k9 17th Nov 2010 19:14

The DAA called it Hot Air before T2 opens on Fri.
Ryanair?s Hot Air Increases As Countdown to Terminal 2 Continues


I suspect that the cuts at DUB won't be significant in Summer
Yes your right

For Summer 2010 Ryanair announced that they would only have 15 based a/c but they had 18 based a/c.

For Winter 2010/11 Ryanair announced that they would only have 12 based a/c but they have 13 based a/c.

Over the last few months Ryanair has said that Dublin Airport traffic will fall below 17million this year but yet again it is a load of bull.

Currently it is expected to be between 18.5 - 19 million.

Ryanair have also dropped a few routes from Faro next summer. They are also expected to pull out of Durham Tees over a passenger charge.

FR- 19th Nov 2010 11:00

ACE
 
ACE will become the 44th base


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