Rumour on the Newcastle page is that the long running Exeter Newcastle Toronto route is stopping next summer , they were to use the larger Air Transat A330 next year as oppose to the A310 which has been in use in previous years
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I was of the understanding the EXT leg was still operating on the A330. Maybe it is the NCL bit that has been cut and the EXT will go back to either operating via BHX or EDI (both of which has been done in the past) - I hope that they have not lost it completely
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link says NCL/EXT
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Anyone know who the 2 Olympic Atr's down in Exeter are going to?
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link says NCL/EXT |
RivetJoint - there are 5 there at the moment, 4 AT42's and 1 AT72. There are more to follow if space permits. I'm not aware they're going to anyone, just open storage...
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Looking at pax carried in previous years if any part of the TS split load was going to go it would be EXT rather than NCL
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Thanks Plymouthpixie. They have been in storage in Greece for a number of years already so thought they finally had a taker!
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A friend of mine contacted EXT and as far as they are concerned the route to YYZ is going ahead. They said the only change was they were trying to get it extended in to winter as loads from EXT were high last season. Not sure who or what to believe now....
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The Toronto service is still on sale with Canadian Affair via Newcastle so i would imagine its not going to pulled this late in the day unless anyone knows anything different ?
Freebird are operating this years Thomas Cook holidays to Dalaman on a Wednesday probably using an A320 , a shorts season this year of May / June / Sept / Oct Thomas Cook continue to operate the Sat Palma flights using an A320 |
I've read that Menzies Aviation are taking over handling in April, Could anyone confirm this?
Any help appreciated I'm job hunting ;) |
Menzies are taking over Flybe's handling at Birmingham and Gatwick but I didnt realise that Menzies were even at Exeter. I thought EDAL (Exeter & Devon Airport Limited) were the only ones there and had some what of a monopoly
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EDAL are the ONLY handling agent's at Exeter.
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Thanks for your responses Cloud1 and Whispering Giant!
I just read that they were starting handling at Flybe and wasn't really too sure if would include EGTE or not. Cheers! |
BGI?
According to TOMs website, there is just one flight to BGI this year, on 1st April. Not sure how people would get home, but it isn't bookable either - glitch in the system? |
Jabird
Is the date not a clue ????:rolleyes::rolleyes:
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LJ - far to early for that! Also, they seem to do a similar thing from other airports - just 2-3 flights per year, I don't see the point, as that must mean a lot of empty sectors.
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Usually cruise related - Fred Olsen from memory - and I think normally whole plane charters (so not bookable) with passengers returning from another port (so appears one way but pax actually return from another airport).
Again, from memory so not 100%, I think one lot of pax board at port A and disembark from port B, while another lot go from B to A. Might be some empty sectors positioning into regional airports in the UK, but the empty long haul sectors will be at the start and end of the season. |
BGI on TOM
These regional charter flights to the Caribbean are most often for Carnival Cruise Corp. For the UK market they tend to charter flights for their P&O and Princess Cruise ships that station into the Caribbean for the Winter seasons and P&O often bring the ships back to Southampton for the summer season.
Smaller airports do well with these flights as pax often are high commercial spenders with dwell times in the terminals in excess of 2 hours. Well done for EXT for ensuring they have this. It is good traffic to get in the current economic times |
Balfour Beatty own Exeter don't they? Just curious as to what they're like because they just became red-hot favourites to take-over my local airport, Durham Tees Valley, and I want to know if things just got better or worse for us...
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Balfour Beatty own Exeter don't they? Just curious as to what they're like because they just became red-hot favourites to take-over my local airport, Durham Tees Valley, and I want to know if things just got better or worse for us... However, there is a big difference between EXT & MME afaik - the former is a thriving regional airport with the right airline offering good range of routes, using the ideal aircraft for the regional market. MME is struggling, and if there were deals to be done to bring someone in, wouldn't Peel, who already have plenty of loco activity at LPL have done them? I know exactly what BB would be interested in here at CVT, and it is under the runway not on it. As for MME, how much is the airport worth as development land? |
Exeter Airport's situation is different to Durham Tees Valley, if only because of its strong links with Flybe which is headquartered at EXT and has a training academy and engineering base there too.
Flybe is the dominant airline at the airport and operates nearly all the scheduled services. Exeter's fortunes in terms of passenger numbers are therefore inextricably linked with Flybe and, mainly because the airline has been cutting back on frequencies and some routes from the airport in recent years, especially in winter, the overall annual passenger throughput has dropped from just over one million in 2007 to 710,000 in 2011, a reduction of around 30%. |
I think its general knowledge that BB caught a cold with EXT. They expected to be there for a couple of years and sell on but the recession hit them hard.
The plans they announced on purchase have failed to materialise and they are praying for an uptick in business. |
Looks like Balkan holidays have quietly dropped Bourgas for the summer season as nothing showing on there web site to book
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New routes for S13
Flybe will be introducing twice weekly to Barcelona (which I am very pleased to see!) and the return of Nice.
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Looks like Air Transat / Canadian Affairs are dropping Exeter to Toronto next summer after many years of operating from this airport
They are offering a connection via Manchester or Glasgow with Flybe instead to Toronto Flybe are upgrading it looks like to a second based EMB190 for next summer during the week , with one aircraft pretty much working the Manchester 3 weekday flights and moving else where at the weekends |
Originally Posted by robin
I think its general knowledge that BB caught a cold with EXT. They expected to be there for a couple of years and sell on but the recession hit them hard. |
A380
I have just seen A380 F-WWDD fly through the Exeter overhead. What a fantastic sight:D. Does anyone know the reason behind?
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I have just seen A380 F-WWDD fly through the Exeter overhead. What a fantastic sight. Does anyone know the reason behind? |
The A 380 paid its last visit to Filton today prior to the runway there closing at the end of the month - though the various aviation industries on and around the site will continue.
To mark the occasion the 380 took a number of Filton employees on a short flight around the West Country/South West. That's probably what you saw. I'm told the 380 also did a low flypast at Bristol Airport today as well. It's done that sort of thing before and must have put the wind up the local nimbys again. 380s have been regular visitors at Filton in recent years in connection with testing etc. VIDEO: Airbus A380 lands at Filton Airfield for the last time | This is Bristol |
It was indeed from Filton today, a sad day, here's a few pictures...
http://www.michaelbuckle.co.uk/image...1620653404.jpg View on Flickr http://www.michaelbuckle.co.uk/image.../704816298.jpg View on Flickr |
Thanks MV. Also found photos here Flickr: Exeter International - EGTE think it will be along time before one visits EXT again.
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can anyone please give me the around 30 year history of flights from Exeter to Toronto.
I know it started i think back in the 80's with DC8's of crownair and worldways and their tristars ( saw a crownair DC8 once there) and air transat has of course operated for many years into the airport until recently. IIRC Wardair did not use EXT despite going to almost all of the other UK airports. who else please? thanks indeed :) nice photo here in 1989 https://www.flickr.com/photos/easyflyer9/4975265942 |
Not much reported here about Exeter but a few things noted
Thomson Summer 2017 Dalaman dropped down to 1 flight operated by Freebird A320 , the Thomson based aircraft now operating to LPA and an extra flight to ACE using the 2 Dalaman slots previously flown by Thomson Malta dropped completely Flybe look to be keeping there 195 at Exeter operating the winter sun flights to ALC and AGP on a W pattern with Norwich Chambery at the weekend but not to Norwich , and 1 Faro service a week Geneva back to a Sat only flight on a Dash Thomson Summer 2018 Looks to be the same as this year with no new routes but a full programme operated by the based 738 Thomas Cook not bookable to Palma at the moment on a Sat , this is usually operated by a Bristol based A321 , could go on sale later though |
Looks like after many years of the Thomas Cook A321 / 757 visiting on the Saturday morning Palma service , this is stopping in 2018
Palma is now operated by Flybe on a Sunday throughout the summer on what looks like to be a Dash 8 judging by the flight time |
Originally Posted by MARKEYD
(Post 9865617)
Looks like after many years of the Thomas Cook A321 / 757 visiting on the Saturday morning Palma service , this is stopping in 2018
Palma is now operated by Flybe on a Sunday throughout the summer on what looks like to be a Dash 8 judging by the flight time propellers to Palma??? - are we in the 1960's! at least it was Vanguard Britannia or a Viscount back then :hmm: |
Flybe have been using Dash 8's from Southampton to Palma for a few seasons as well as the odd flight to Alicante so it's nothing new although personally I would prefer not to.
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Originally Posted by canberra97
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Flybe have been using Dash 8's from Southampton to Palma for a few seasons as well as the odd flight to Alicante so it's nothing new although personally I would prefer not to.
no nor me, cannot bear the Dash 8- the Dash 7 though was nice though - we handled Brymons when brand new at LHR to replace their old Herald on the NQY EXT and PLH however my last big prop sojourn of any length was when i worked for BMA at LHR and we still had Prop night charters from LPL-PMI and also BHX-MAH on Viscounts this was very late 70's early 80's and I often jumped on for a free ride down to start my hols - took almost 5 hours plodding through the night - hot dinner, plenty of drinks - Capt came back and sat in the cabin (it was not full) to eat his dinner! those were the days |
Really don't know why so many people have problems with the Dash!
It cruises fast (only a couple of minutes behind a jet on most UK/close Europe sectors), climbs quickly, is economical, is not too noisy (when the NVS is working) and is reasonably comfortable (I prefer the 2+2 layout dictated by the narrow fuselage). Fair to say that there are a lot of regional/hub feed and point-to-point sectors around the world that wouldn't be operating if it didn't exist. |
But the simple fact of the matter is the Q400 was not designed to fly 900 mile sectors. EXT-PMI is not a close European sector, it doesn't cruise fast and isn't a couple of minutes behind the jet on a 900 mile sector, it only climbs fast in the lower levels and most certainly doesn't climb fast at max weight and in high ISA temperatures.
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