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MARKEYD 2nd Jan 2012 15:42

Rumour on the Newcastle page is that the long running Exeter Newcastle Toronto route is stopping next summer , they were to use the larger Air Transat A330 next year as oppose to the A310 which has been in use in previous years

Cloud1 2nd Jan 2012 17:41

I was of the understanding the EXT leg was still operating on the A330. Maybe it is the NCL bit that has been cut and the EXT will go back to either operating via BHX or EDI (both of which has been done in the past) - I hope that they have not lost it completely

CabinCrewe 2nd Jan 2012 17:43

link says NCL/EXT

Rivet Joint 2nd Jan 2012 20:16

Anyone know who the 2 Olympic Atr's down in Exeter are going to?

Cloud1 2nd Jan 2012 20:24


link says NCL/EXT
Yeah I know, I read the link. But it is referring to GDS. If the NCL was being cancelled on its own, they would still have to show EXT-NCL as being cancelled but I am hoping it will still be replaced by something else maintaining the link via EXT. Will have to keep an eye in GDS to see if anything is offered for example YYZ-EXT-LGW or YYZ-EXT-EDI

PlymouthPixie 2nd Jan 2012 22:42

RivetJoint - there are 5 there at the moment, 4 AT42's and 1 AT72. There are more to follow if space permits. I'm not aware they're going to anyone, just open storage...

CabinCrewe 2nd Jan 2012 22:47

Looking at pax carried in previous years if any part of the TS split load was going to go it would be EXT rather than NCL

Rivet Joint 3rd Jan 2012 18:25

Thanks Plymouthpixie. They have been in storage in Greece for a number of years already so thought they finally had a taker!

Cloud1 10th Jan 2012 17:50

A friend of mine contacted EXT and as far as they are concerned the route to YYZ is going ahead. They said the only change was they were trying to get it extended in to winter as loads from EXT were high last season. Not sure who or what to believe now....

MARKEYD 26th Jan 2012 11:41

The Toronto service is still on sale with Canadian Affair via Newcastle so i would imagine its not going to pulled this late in the day unless anyone knows anything different ?

Freebird are operating this years Thomas Cook holidays to Dalaman on a Wednesday probably using an A320 , a shorts season this year of May / June / Sept / Oct

Thomas Cook continue to operate the Sat Palma flights using an A320

LukeA346 28th Jan 2012 09:34

I've read that Menzies Aviation are taking over handling in April, Could anyone confirm this?

Any help appreciated I'm job hunting ;)

Cloud1 28th Jan 2012 13:20

Menzies are taking over Flybe's handling at Birmingham and Gatwick but I didnt realise that Menzies were even at Exeter. I thought EDAL (Exeter & Devon Airport Limited) were the only ones there and had some what of a monopoly

Whispering Giant 28th Jan 2012 13:33

EDAL are the ONLY handling agent's at Exeter.

LukeA346 28th Jan 2012 17:55

Thanks for your responses Cloud1 and Whispering Giant!
I just read that they were starting handling at Flybe and wasn't really too sure if would include EGTE or not. Cheers!

jabird 28th Jan 2012 20:22

BGI?

According to TOMs website, there is just one flight to BGI this year, on 1st April. Not sure how people would get home, but it isn't bookable either - glitch in the system?

learjet50 28th Jan 2012 21:21

Jabird
 
Is the date not a clue ????:rolleyes::rolleyes:

jabird 28th Jan 2012 22:22

LJ - far to early for that! Also, they seem to do a similar thing from other airports - just 2-3 flights per year, I don't see the point, as that must mean a lot of empty sectors.

SWBKCB 29th Jan 2012 05:53

Usually cruise related - Fred Olsen from memory - and I think normally whole plane charters (so not bookable) with passengers returning from another port (so appears one way but pax actually return from another airport).

Again, from memory so not 100%, I think one lot of pax board at port A and disembark from port B, while another lot go from B to A. Might be some empty sectors positioning into regional airports in the UK, but the empty long haul sectors will be at the start and end of the season.

merchant sailors 29th Jan 2012 05:56

BGI on TOM
 
These regional charter flights to the Caribbean are most often for Carnival Cruise Corp. For the UK market they tend to charter flights for their P&O and Princess Cruise ships that station into the Caribbean for the Winter seasons and P&O often bring the ships back to Southampton for the summer season.

Smaller airports do well with these flights as pax often are high commercial spenders with dwell times in the terminals in excess of 2 hours.

Well done for EXT for ensuring they have this. It is good traffic to get in the current economic times

Robert-Ryan 30th Jan 2012 21:11

Balfour Beatty own Exeter don't they? Just curious as to what they're like because they just became red-hot favourites to take-over my local airport, Durham Tees Valley, and I want to know if things just got better or worse for us...

jabird 30th Jan 2012 21:34


Balfour Beatty own Exeter don't they? Just curious as to what they're like because they just became red-hot favourites to take-over my local airport, Durham Tees Valley, and I want to know if things just got better or worse for us...
I didn't know they were in to airports (owning rather than building), but they are a large construction firm with various interests, including LHR T2, publicly quoted so plenty of info out there.

However, there is a big difference between EXT & MME afaik - the former is a thriving regional airport with the right airline offering good range of routes, using the ideal aircraft for the regional market. MME is struggling, and if there were deals to be done to bring someone in, wouldn't Peel, who already have plenty of loco activity at LPL have done them?

I know exactly what BB would be interested in here at CVT, and it is under the runway not on it. As for MME, how much is the airport worth as development land?

MerchantVenturer 31st Jan 2012 19:05

Exeter Airport's situation is different to Durham Tees Valley, if only because of its strong links with Flybe which is headquartered at EXT and has a training academy and engineering base there too.

Flybe is the dominant airline at the airport and operates nearly all the scheduled services.

Exeter's fortunes in terms of passenger numbers are therefore inextricably linked with Flybe and, mainly because the airline has been cutting back on frequencies and some routes from the airport in recent years, especially in winter, the overall annual passenger throughput has dropped from just over one million in 2007 to 710,000 in 2011, a reduction of around 30%.

robin 31st Jan 2012 21:55

I think its general knowledge that BB caught a cold with EXT. They expected to be there for a couple of years and sell on but the recession hit them hard.

The plans they announced on purchase have failed to materialise and they are praying for an uptick in business.

MARKEYD 21st May 2012 18:14

Looks like Balkan holidays have quietly dropped Bourgas for the summer season as nothing showing on there web site to book

Cloud1 12th Sep 2012 08:54

New routes for S13
 
Flybe will be introducing twice weekly to Barcelona (which I am very pleased to see!) and the return of Nice.

MARKEYD 6th Dec 2012 11:37

Looks like Air Transat / Canadian Affairs are dropping Exeter to Toronto next summer after many years of operating from this airport
They are offering a connection via Manchester or Glasgow with Flybe instead to Toronto

Flybe are upgrading it looks like to a second based EMB190 for next summer during the week , with one aircraft pretty much working the Manchester 3 weekday flights and moving else where at the weekends

Ernest Lanc's 6th Dec 2012 15:38


Originally Posted by robin

I think its general knowledge that BB caught a cold with EXT. They expected
to be there for a couple of years and sell on but the recession hit them
hard.

Heard all this before at the other BB airport at BLK.If it's general knowledge that this is FACT and not gossip, can you post a link as to why they would buy EXT to sell, and to who, and why?..Let me guess, to build houses on?.

Air Hop 18th Dec 2012 11:43

A380
 
I have just seen A380 F-WWDD fly through the Exeter overhead. What a fantastic sight:D. Does anyone know the reason behind?

Suzeman 18th Dec 2012 13:25


I have just seen A380 F-WWDD fly through the Exeter overhead. What a fantastic sight. Does anyone know the reason behind?
Think it was en route Filton.

MerchantVenturer 18th Dec 2012 17:53

The A 380 paid its last visit to Filton today prior to the runway there closing at the end of the month - though the various aviation industries on and around the site will continue.

To mark the occasion the 380 took a number of Filton employees on a short flight around the West Country/South West. That's probably what you saw.

I'm told the 380 also did a low flypast at Bristol Airport today as well. It's done that sort of thing before and must have put the wind up the local nimbys again.

380s have been regular visitors at Filton in recent years in connection with testing etc.

VIDEO: Airbus A380 lands at Filton Airfield for the last time | This is Bristol

MichaelBuckle 18th Dec 2012 18:45

It was indeed from Filton today, a sad day, here's a few pictures...

http://www.michaelbuckle.co.uk/image...1620653404.jpg
View on Flickr

http://www.michaelbuckle.co.uk/image.../704816298.jpg
View on Flickr

Air Hop 19th Dec 2012 19:45

Thanks MV. Also found photos here Flickr: Exeter International - EGTE think it will be along time before one visits EXT again.

rog747 9th May 2016 08:47

can anyone please give me the around 30 year history of flights from Exeter to Toronto.

I know it started i think back in the 80's with DC8's of crownair and worldways and their tristars ( saw a crownair DC8 once there) and air transat has of course operated for many years into the airport until recently.

IIRC Wardair did not use EXT despite going to almost all of the other UK airports.

who else please?
thanks indeed :)

nice photo here in 1989 https://www.flickr.com/photos/easyflyer9/4975265942

MARKEYD 22nd Apr 2017 16:17

Not much reported here about Exeter but a few things noted

Thomson Summer 2017

Dalaman dropped down to 1 flight operated by Freebird A320 , the Thomson based aircraft now operating to LPA and an extra flight to ACE using the 2 Dalaman slots previously flown by Thomson

Malta dropped completely

Flybe look to be keeping there 195 at Exeter operating the winter sun flights to ALC and AGP on a W pattern with Norwich
Chambery at the weekend but not to Norwich , and 1 Faro service a week
Geneva back to a Sat only flight on a Dash

Thomson Summer 2018

Looks to be the same as this year with no new routes but a full programme operated by the based 738

Thomas Cook not bookable to Palma at the moment on a Sat , this is usually operated by a Bristol based A321 , could go on sale later though

MARKEYD 18th Aug 2017 11:07

Looks like after many years of the Thomas Cook A321 / 757 visiting on the Saturday morning Palma service , this is stopping in 2018

Palma is now operated by Flybe on a Sunday throughout the summer on what looks like to be a Dash 8 judging by the flight time

rog747 18th Aug 2017 11:18


Originally Posted by MARKEYD (Post 9865617)
Looks like after many years of the Thomas Cook A321 / 757 visiting on the Saturday morning Palma service , this is stopping in 2018

Palma is now operated by Flybe on a Sunday throughout the summer on what looks like to be a Dash 8 judging by the flight time


propellers to Palma??? - are we in the 1960's!

at least it was Vanguard Britannia or a Viscount back then :hmm:

canberra97 18th Aug 2017 11:46

Flybe have been using Dash 8's from Southampton to Palma for a few seasons as well as the odd flight to Alicante so it's nothing new although personally I would prefer not to.

rog747 18th Aug 2017 14:39


Originally Posted by canberra97 (Post 9865645)
Flybe have been using Dash 8's from Southampton to Palma for a few seasons as well as the odd flight to Alicante so it's nothing new although personally I would prefer not to.


no nor me, cannot bear the Dash 8-
the Dash 7 though was nice though - we handled Brymons when brand new at LHR to replace their old Herald on the NQY EXT and PLH

however my last big prop sojourn of any length was when i worked for BMA at LHR and we still had Prop night charters from LPL-PMI and also BHX-MAH on Viscounts
this was very late 70's early 80's and I often jumped on for a free ride down to start my hols -
took almost 5 hours plodding through the night - hot dinner, plenty of drinks - Capt came back and sat in the cabin (it was not full) to eat his dinner!
those were the days

Wycombe 18th Aug 2017 16:34

Really don't know why so many people have problems with the Dash!

It cruises fast (only a couple of minutes behind a jet on most UK/close Europe sectors), climbs quickly, is economical, is not too noisy (when the NVS is working) and is reasonably comfortable (I prefer the 2+2 layout dictated by the narrow fuselage).

Fair to say that there are a lot of regional/hub feed and point-to-point sectors around the world that wouldn't be operating if it didn't exist.

Reversethrustset 18th Aug 2017 18:46

But the simple fact of the matter is the Q400 was not designed to fly 900 mile sectors. EXT-PMI is not a close European sector, it doesn't cruise fast and isn't a couple of minutes behind the jet on a 900 mile sector, it only climbs fast in the lower levels and most certainly doesn't climb fast at max weight and in high ISA temperatures.


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