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JSCL 14th May 2011 15:43

Yes but one day it'll end up coming true and the legacy of "we say that every time" will shock us.

WATABENCH 14th May 2011 17:33

Any chance it could be something to do with previously mentioned possibility of new bases at BRS,NCL and EMA?

Cazza_fly 14th May 2011 19:11


Any chance it could be something to do with previously mentioned possibility of new bases at BRS,NCL and EMA?
... and the rebrand / new marketing direction ...

easyflyer83 15th May 2011 02:18


easyflyer,

Just wondering where you heard there was due to be an announcement for EZY also on the 25th, is that official or Galley fm?. I have not heard anything.

It is funny though, every time there is due to be an announcement in Monarch or easyJet the good old rumour of easy and monarch coming together always comes up.

Well suppose I should make a note in the diary for the 25th.
It was actually tongue in cheek Adam. But yes there is an announcement of some sort due around the same time......apparently to coincide with the special "orange" livery. If you're privy to the Easyjet intranet, take a look at Orange Juice.

Airbus321-200 19th May 2011 09:40

I was reading on the bmibaby thread that there is a rumour about monarch taking them over. Bmibaby have just announced new routes including EMA-GIB.

Any weight in this rumour? i personally cant see them as a fit but stranger things have happened.

cortilla 19th May 2011 10:37

As much as I enjoyed working with the people at baby (working with not for. I worked for a third party that provided a service to baby but i had a lot of interaction with people at the coal face)

Why on earth would monarch want to buy baby? It doesn't own any aircraft or any assets. All that leaves are the people. As nice as they are, why would monarch buy them?

Airbus321-200 19th May 2011 11:16

That's what i thought and those aircraft are worth nothing even if owned.

Mr A Tis 19th May 2011 22:21

Pure speculation, but I wonder with the contraction of Thomson & Thomas Cook longhaul post S11. Monarch may also be looking to pull out of longhaul & ditch the A330s & A300s. Perhaps there is a deal with Boeing to also ditch the elusive B787 in favour of a big order for B738s ? These to serve regional bases like Cardiff / Newcastle / Glasgow. Just my thoughts ... I guess we will have to wait and see in a weeks time. In time, new B738s could also replace some of the elderley A320s.
I'd be more than a little surprised if there were any talk of acquisition of another carrier,( WW , LS ) highly unlikely.

DomyDom 19th May 2011 22:25

and buy the bmibaby 'management' team (in recent years)...... well less said the better.:{

AircraftOperations 19th May 2011 23:19

I heard a mention of Monarch's plans for the next few years from what I would call a well-placed source.
If correct, it will be really interesting move from the airline and an exciting step forward for the Uk market.

Falcon666 20th May 2011 01:19

Anybody considered it may just be a Engineering contract for say ten years with a recruitment drive.

Just my two pennys

Cazza_fly 20th May 2011 10:45

Announcment
 

Anybody considered it may just be a Engineering contract for say ten years with a recruitment drive.
If they're wanting all staff to be involved with the announcment then it will probably bigger than that, though could also involve it too...


I heard a mention of Monarch's plans for the next few years from what I would call a well-placed source.
If correct, it will be really interesting move from the airline and an exciting step forward for the Uk market.
The only things I can think of to be ''an exciting step forward for the UK market'' is either major expansion of the UK regions or expansion into longhaul. I know they are going to be announcing a rebrand/new marketing structure so then it could be a new style of service offered too.

hapzim 20th May 2011 13:23

Nigeria here we come just a different colour on the tail

PhilW1981 20th May 2011 21:09

With the forthcoming reduction/withdrawl of Thomas Cook from long haul the market is certainly there for another operator to grow in the long haul budget holiday sector, assuming of course that Monarch actually recieve their 787's before 2020.

renort 21st May 2011 20:06

I think Hapzim might be onto something...

macdo 21st May 2011 20:31

Virgin seem to be picking up a lot of the TCX LH stuff, probably more when the 3 (maybe 2) 330's retire at the end of the summer. All them shiny new 330's to fill, haha and we even trained their pilots!
MON seem to have lots of our very SH, Spain and that, leaving us with all the lovely night Dalamans, wouldn't mind a small punt that we shall be seeing more of the same, especially if the TCX SH fleets contracts as has been widely rumored in the last few weeks.

Unless Mr AIRCRAFTOPERATIONS would like to expand on his cryptic post above!!:eek:

EGCC7955 22nd May 2011 10:14

Just going off the subject for a second, I was wondering if somebody could explain the theory behind putting an A332 on the 07:25 MAN-AGP & a B752 on the 09:00 MAN-LXR on a Monday morning? Surely these machines would be better suited the opposite way round

Cazza_fly 22nd May 2011 10:26


Just going off the subject for a second, I was wondering if somebody could explain the theory behind putting an A332 on the 07:25 MAN-AGP & a B752 on the 09:00 MAN-LXR on a Monday morning? Surely these machines would be better suited the opposite way round
No not neccessarily, obviously both aircraft are more than capable of doing either routes however, the pax loads on the AGP route are booked very high and any tour operator would be struggling to fill an A330 with over 350 seats to LXR at the minute. So it's bascically load factors playing the decider here, no point sending an half empty A330 when you could fill a 757.

EGCC7955 22nd May 2011 10:50

So the bookings on the early ZB to AGP on a Monday morning are higher than the capacity of Mon's B752's, hence the A332? That does surprise me!
If that's the reason then yeah I can see why its been done but I wouldn't have thought that they could fill a 752 on an early AGP either...
Still we're aren't paid to ask questions, just to do as we're told!

easyflyer83 22nd May 2011 10:56

I think this is just a classic case of "surely the bigger aircraft should go on the longer route". AGP is a busy route, you only have to see how many operators operate the route ex UK.


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