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They(Ryanair) even mention St. Petersburg in their press release.
"Was die Kleinstadt richtig interessant macht: Russland ist lediglich 20 Minuten entfernt. Bis St. Petersburg, ... , sind es rund 200 Kilometer." Translation: "What makes the (little) city really interesting is that Russia is just 20 minutes away. To St. Petersburg, ..., it's about 200 kilometers. |
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Now it's Charleroi's turn:
Ryanair - 6 New Routes from Brussels (Charleroi) - London Stock Exchange 4 more aircraft (12 in total), 6 new routes increased frequencies on 14 routes. But the post 2012 Boeing order looks in trouble: UPDATE 1-Ryanair says likely to shelve 200-plane Boeing deal | Reuters |
How do the recent announcements on capacity increases tie in with deliveries - or are the aircraft becoming available as a result of reductions elsewhere on the network?
So far Ryanair have announced 15 aircraft being added to new / existing bases in March alone - Leeds (2), Bristol (1), Liverpool (1), Rygge (3), Alicante (3) and now Charleroi (4). This is in addition to the aircraft at Bari (2 in Jan '10) and Bari (1 in Feb '10). |
in March alone - Leeds (2), Bristol (1), Liverpool (1), Rygge (3), Alicante (3) and now Charleroi (4) For completeness, the new routes for Charleroi are:
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About aircrafts:
FR has 210 aircraft (more to come until March) right now but I think only 170 or 180 are needed during this winter. STN (40 down to 24) and DUB (18 down to 14) lost 20 a/c and I doubt they'll gain all of them during next summer - any infos on that? SNN down from 4 to 3 last July and only 1 based a/c next summer. Isn't it more like this: end of March/begin of April: CRL (4), ALC (3), RYG (3), LBA (2), LPL (2), BRS (1), NRN (1), TPS (1), BLQ (1) May: TPS (1) With all of these a/c I count round about 195. If STN goes up from 24 to 40, DUB from 14 to 18, PSA back to 6, REU back to 3 and AHO back to 2 it must be more or less 220. Last summer (July) FR had about 190 aircrafts. If it goes up to 220 it would be an increase of 15%. |
Although no announcement has been made, the summer schedule now on sale for Prestwick needs 6 based aircraft (up 1 from 5). There is a small increase in overall number of flights but the much longer stage lengths with many more flights to Spain and the Canaries will need an additional aircraft to operate the schedule.
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At least some news to Porto. We will have now 5 weekly flights from CRL to OPO, instead of four.
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many more flights to Spain and the Canaries will need an additional aircraft to operate |
Some Prestwick flights will be operated from the southern end but the current schedule for next summer has 6 aircraft departing between 0600 and 0800 on 5 days of the week - Monday actually has 7 departures! It is clear an extra aircraft is required.
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More likely the schedule is a WIP. I would be very surprised to see PIK get another unit this summer. This is not uncommon with the schedules, especially as they had an inbound turned and out by 0815 last year.
I would however be DELIGHTED to be wrong. Fingers crossed! |
Lappeenranta
Earlier I have envisaged LPP as a dark horse in the region, so I'll keep my eye on it.
Today on the net I've spotted the audio version of the interview given by Ryanair's Erik Elmsater to Finnish Radio. Swede and Finn were talking to each other in English (in a funny, but understandable way). I hope the link will work, try to listen... |
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Not part of my family.
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Ryanair negotiating 200 more 737-800
Ryanair is in final talks with Boeing about buying 200 more 737. (300 were already ordered before) However they claim Boeing's prices are still "too high" and threaten to buy european instead or delay their growth.
I didn't find this in english so here is a german language link. Ryanair verhandelt über den Kauf von 200 Boeing 737-800 - FLUG REVUE |
Probably to start replacing some of the (relatively) older models - for which they'll still get a good price. The cheaper the new purchases, the more profit from the sales of the older fleet.
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Ryanair is in final talks with Boeing about buying 200 more 737. (300 were already ordered before) However they claim Boeing's prices are still "too high" and threaten to buy european instead or delay their growth. |
The price is right...
I think the price has been agreed:
Delta, Ryanair Boeing orders in jeopardy? Delta Air Lines may abandon an inherited order for 18 Boeing 787 Dreamliners, while Ryanair says talks for a new Boeing 737 order have broken down, according to media reports. Delta inherited the 787 order when it merged with Northwest Airlines. But Flight International reported Monday that Hank Halter, Delta's chief financial officer, said the carrier would invest in upgrading its existing fleet rather than ordering new aircraft. This follows previous previous comments and filings that suggested the 787 order might be in trouble. Meanwhile, Reuters, Bloomberg and The Wall Street Journal quoted outspoken Ryanair Chief Executive Michael O'Leary as saying Ryanair and Boeing reached agreement on the price for a deal to buy 200 aircraft, but talks broke down over the weekend because Boeing wanted to change delivery terms. "We're going to make a final decision at the board meeting next Thursday," O'Leary told Reuters. "Unless there's some change in their position over the next week, it's off." Airbus appears uninterested in trying to step in, with Chief Operating Officer John Leahy telling Bloomberg: "I would have no problem selling aircraft to O'Leary at reasonable prices, but I have not seen anything reasonable from him." Bombardier's CSeries aircraft are too small for Ryanair's plans, O'Leary told Bloomberg. Boeing spokesman Jim Condelles declined to comment on either order, citing company policy not to talk about its discussions with customers. What could they mean by 'change delivery terms' I wonder? :suspect: |
It would be madness if he didn't but he'll do everything he can to get the price down.
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So obviously Boeing accepted FR's price request but fine tuned another contract detail instead.
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MOL is clearly playing a game, one that he will win simply because of the amount of orders he wants to place. Boeing wont pass up an oppertunity in this climate to sell 200 737s.
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It is not only Boeing who wants a customer for 200x 738s.. Ryanair also have to find customers willing to buy their 200+ 738s.
FR so far ordered 338 aircraft, 236 were delivered, around 200 in current operation. Even if FR will grow to 250 or even 300 aircraft fleet (which I doubt), they still have to dispose 200+ aircraft. |
Where abouts do FR's 737-800's get maintained/serviced? Do they have a huge facilty at a quiet airport?
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Most checks are done at Prestwick as far as I know with some of the more regular checks contracted out where the aircraft are based in mainland Europe
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I am suprised any airlines is looking at such a large order in a time when the airframers are looking at the Geared turbofan from PW and the LeapX from CFM. Jump in now and you could see a product coming in with a 15% fuel efficency leap in a few years time.
Also, what is keeping that Bombardier C-Series out of the equation? Looks an excellent fit on the face of it. |
GTF? Think they are looking for earlier deliveries from 2013.
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Like them or hate them.
Thats a impressive order in thee times. Tom |
Callum, Ryanair have maintainance facilities and hangars at Stanstead, Dublin and Prestwick. All three facilities handle the regular maintainance of the fleet but most of the heavy maintainance is carried out at Prestwick.
Almost all Ryanair bases also have line engineering facilities, This is simply Engineers who look after the aircraft in service while on the ramp. They too can carry out routine checks etc. |
"So obviously Boeing accepted FR's price request but fine tuned another contract detail instead."
Could someone be having some fun with the kaiser of add-on charges? Boeing could go down the route of selling the basic model, but the GLX costs a wee bit more. |
As a sidenote: new flights from CRL to Ibiza, Nador, Seville and Zadar will start from 7th to 9th April and not in May like it was announced in the press release.
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Ailerons are an added extra!!!!
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Or they have to buy them online using visa electron.
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Ever seen Fred McCauley on Mock The Week with the MOL buying a pint of Guiness in a bar gag?
"That's 50p Michael." "Yes that IS cheap." "Well it's another £1 if you want a head." "And £2 for the glass....." Boeing should try the same approach. Sell him 200 737 with no engines, just leave it in the VERY small print... |
Maybe something to do with MOL not wanting the "baggage hold" option.
Getting back to the GTF powerplants, there was an article in Aviation week recently about Airbus making some sort of progress with the powerplant on the 320 family. They are likely to be ahead of Boeing with the next gen powerplant in anycase. Air NZ are also to be the first customer with the new winglets. |
FR so far ordered 338 aircraft, 236 were delivered, around 200 in current operation. Even if FR will grow to 250 or even 300 aircraft fleet (which I doubt), they still have to dispose 200+ aircraft. but most of the heavy maintainance is carried out at Prestwick. |
FR don't do heavy checks: the aircraft are sold before a C check is needed. Keeps the costs down |
dubh12000,
I'm also perplexed why Ryanair wouldn't consider moving to a next generation aircraft with more fuel efficient engines such as the Bombardier C series. The largest version is 149 seats which isn't small and would enable Ryanair to compete on thinner routes. A Bombardier/Ryanair deal would really make Bombardier a player in this segment of the market! |
Krakow expansion: Madrid, Girona, Malaga, Charleroi and Hahn are mentioned. |
If they don't want to use the cargo hold could they not add some stairs down to there, put extra seats in and make them into double deckers?
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Question......what happens to the aircraft they have at the moment? Who is in the market for RYR's (or anyones) second hand aircraft in this current economic climate?
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