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Seat62K 19th Oct 2009 06:52

Ryanair - 7
 
Does anyone know when Ryanair will release late Spring/Summer schedules/fares?

Thanks.

apaul 19th Oct 2009 07:39

I doubt even Ryanair knows at this stage as it varies from year to year and base to base. E.g. a new base from March/April like Leeds is already bookable for early summer. Where they still have a lot of winter seats to fill they will release the summer timetables later. If you do not have to fly on Fridays and Sundays, however, you are better off waiting until they start flogging off the seats at £10 or less.

pee 19th Oct 2009 09:23

Visa Electron
 
Very common here in Finland anyway.

mickyman 19th Oct 2009 09:33

pee

Thanks for that.

Anywhere else.......?

MM

Tom the Tenor 20th Oct 2009 14:33

I know that we all hear how Yield is so important for Ryanair but lest we forget another scale which cannot be forgotten about is Market Share and this factor is very important to the likes of Ryanair and especially in relation to routes and airlines they are in direct competition with so quite often they are more than happy to sell Euro 5 all in fares to hang on to and indeed grow their share of the market.

There now, that is my little bit of economics for the day!

mickyman 20th Oct 2009 15:33

MUFC_Fan

I do not think that such a lame programme,as it was, would elicit any
ripples of commotion like you suggest,from the Ryanair hierarchy.

The startled interviewer (looking like that Sesame street eagle)seemed not
to have clue what to ask MOL.

The best bit of publicity for MOL in years !!


MM

Seat62K 20th Oct 2009 20:40

"Hand Luggage Only" Flights?
 
Some time ago Ryanair talked about operating "hand luggage only" flights (on an experimental basis, I understood).

I heard nothing more about those flights but recently something on television (BBC1's local news programme, Look East, I think) caught my attention. The claim was that Ryanair is considering "hand luggage only" flights again, from Stansted. If I remember correctly, these would be early departures only. It's easy to see how cost savings could be made if baggage handlers were not required for the earliest flights. What makes me question the veracity of the report, though, is the fact that baggage charges must be a moneyspinner for Ryanair. Having all passengers taking hand luggage only would be like all passengers using Electron cards, surely? (Or am I missing something? Are high baggage charges designed to persuade passengers not to take hold luggage?)

Is there anyone who knows whether there's any truth to this?

apaul 20th Oct 2009 20:45

Hasn't O'Leary stated that he will keep increasing the baggage charges until no one takes hold luggage?

flying_shortly 21st Oct 2009 09:13

Flew with Ryanair yesterday on connecting flights and I just wanted to say the operation they have is unbelievable! I was not delayed at all. Great flights, great crew. And what's more I got the flights for free. I was particulary impressed with Stansted. It's a constant flow of people. All the flights I was on were very full.

I'll be using Learyair again for sure!

racedo 21st Oct 2009 13:18

and back to airlines, airports and routes.......

FR have announced discussions taking place with SNN regarding new 5 year deal from April 2010.

PPRuNe Pop 22nd Oct 2009 09:17

This is JUST the sort of thing we do not need. For one thing it is advertising.

Electron cards!! Is that about Airlines, Routes and Airports?

Just have a look at how much the thread is cut by the absolute rubbish you are posting.

Get real and stick to what this forum is for or this thread goes! And there will be some banning.

AA&R

pee 22nd Oct 2009 12:29

OK. So now something more "serious", from Scandinavia. Ryanair news release in Norwegian (you can read it having changed the language version of FR site). I do not actually speak Norwegian, but it's pretty similar to Swedish, so here we go:
Ryanair, the world's favorite airline, has congratulated today SAS to be Norway's biggest loser. Over the past year SAS has lost 5 billion NOK, messed up 263,000 pieces of their passengers' baggage, lost 3 million travelers since January, and now they have lost 4 of their top leaders in SAS Norway.

In the same period, Ryanair has established itself on a new airport in Norway, offering Norwegians 13 new routes in Europe and will double the traffic from Norway during the next 12 months.

To celebrate
(the cheap ticket offer follows)...

In a comment Ryanair's Stephen McNamara says:

- The message from the Norwegian people, they are tired of SAS's high prices, lost baggage and countless strikes. As a result, 3 million passengers switched to low cost Ryanair wings and is taking advantage of lower fares and fantastic destinations.

- The top executives' escape from SAS Norway means that the company is having big problems. But never mind, when SAS continue to lose ground, Ryanair will continue to grow.
I do not wish to hear the same about Finnair, but the announcement of a few new FR routes from Finland would not be a bad idea either. :ok:

airsmiles 22nd Oct 2009 18:55

Not sure if this is the right thread but can anyone tell me if Ryanair B738 deliveries are always made to the same base for prep, or do they go direct to whichever base needs more capacity at the time.

As I understand it, they have 8 more due in November (although the 1st, EI-EFV, has been test flying for a while now).

airsmiles

fivejuliet 22nd Oct 2009 19:11

airsmiles, they always operate non stop BFI-Dublin where they either enter traffic at Dublin or position elsewhere

EISNN 22nd Oct 2009 20:45

So is Micky O'Leary gonna really reduce flights by 75% in SNN? Rumour also has it here in SNN that he's gonna have to pay the SAA all the passenger and landing fees from the last four/five years cos he didn't meet the passengers numbers level he promised/required. Is there any truth to it?

super737 22nd Oct 2009 21:26

EI-EFV operated the FR1415/1415 EMA/BHD/EMA rotation this evening. It currently is based at EMA. Normally new aircraft are just worked into the system and their placing is usually irrespective of requirements at other stations.

Charlie Roy 22nd Oct 2009 21:49

Shannon
 
Read the item about Shannon on the Ryanair website, it's funny to see that what Ryanair mean by "Ryanair & Shannon Discuss 75% Cuts in Shannon Base" is: "Ryanair has written to Shannon Airport" with a list of threats and demands.
And there are two main questions here:
  • Are SNN going to give into Ryanair?
    If they do not, then Shannon could loose half their passenger numbers. Has Ryanair really "lost money in each of the 5 years it has operated a base at Shannon Airport"? Why stay there so? Shouldn't shareholders be demanding an immediate revision of Shannon operations in that case? Or maybe Ryanair are making nice money out of Shannon but can fiddle the books to show whatever statistics suit. On fares alone they make a loss, bur on fares and ancillaries they make a profit for example. Eitherway Shannon are between a rock and a hard place.
    If Ryanair do seriously pull the plug, who could potentially step in and fill their shoes? Aer Lingus are for sure a no-no and will more than happy to fly Shannoners from Cork to Alicante / Paris / Barcelona / Malaga / Faro etc, and Aer Arann could only deliver a limited amount of passengers. If airlines like Flybe or Wizz were to pick up the abandoned routes they would no doubt go looking for as good a deal as Ryanair are demanding, knowing that Shannon would be desperate for passengers.
  • Will the Irish government scrap the €10 travel tax at Shannon by February?
    I'm thinking this is highly improbable, but not impossible... Even if Ryanair do carry out their threat of reducing the Shannon base from 4 to 1 based aircraft, who's to say they won't maintain a similar level of routes/passengers by operating routes with the aircraft from other bases...

davidjohnson6 22nd Oct 2009 22:07

I can't see Ireland benefitting greatly from inward tourist spending on flights to SNN from Alicante, Carcassonne, Faro, Girona, Lanzarote, Gran Canaria, Malaga, Murcia, Nantes, Palma, Tenerife and Venice. I suspect also that flights from Krakow, Lodz and Wroclaw attract relatively few high-spending Polish tourists visiting Ireland although this may help lower employment costs for local companies.

Beyond flights from SNN to the UK, Paris, Brussels and Dusseldorf, I struggle to understand the likely economic benefits to spending in Ireland by tourists

Perhaps time for Govt or quasi-Govt to decide that encouraging local residents to spend their money locally rather than outside Ireland would be a good thing ? [Otherwise known as calling MOL's bluff]

apaul 22nd Oct 2009 23:29

Letting Ryanair land for free does not seem to have done much good for the Canaries. Most of their routes seem to have gone for the summer.

racedo 23rd Oct 2009 07:34


Letting Ryanair land for free does not seem to have done much good for the Canaries. Most of their routes seem to have gone for the summer.
They were only ever going to be winter routes at this point in time.

jferreira20 23rd Oct 2009 14:32

Porto-Dublin is already in the route map. Great.

airsmiles 23rd Oct 2009 21:40

Thanks for the delivery info. Any idead when the others will arrive?

airsmiles

jferreira20 26th Oct 2009 15:40

Today's a big day here in Portugal. The first domestic flight from Ryanair (OPO-FAO).

blueplatinum 27th Oct 2009 07:13


Letting Ryanair land for free does not seem to have done much good for the Canaries. Most of their routes seem to have gone for the summer.


They were only ever going to be winter routes at this point in time.

When will we know if the routes are to continue into the Summer ?

danielmellor 27th Oct 2009 20:52

Its The 1p Seat Sale again

I wonder if the guy from leeds will be off to dublin again for the day?

:ok:

Seljuk22 29th Oct 2009 13:34

New routes from CRL (3 weekly from December), BLQ (4 weekly), EDI (4 weekly) and of course OPO (3 weekly) to Bordeaux starting March 2010.

Rumour about a new base with 3 a/c at BTS.

airsmiles 29th Oct 2009 17:16

Apparently RYR are sending 35 B738's to Bournemouth for repainting this winter. EI-DCG is the 1st and EI-DAD the 2nd, with both there now being stripped down. I know they dispose of their a/c after 7 years, and park some up over the winter, but 35 is a hell of lot to withdraw so quickly.

Any idea what the plan is?

airsmiles

jferreira20 29th Oct 2009 17:21

Seljuk22, where did you heard that rumour about BTS? Anyway, it appears OPO-BHX was definitely cancelled. It's no longer in the route map.

Charlie Roy 29th Oct 2009 17:35

Bratislava
 
Lots of articles in Google news about Ryanair base at Bratislava. (None in English though, so far). MOL gave a press conference in Vienna today.
3 based aircraft, 20 new routes, no mention of dates...

In German: Ryanair spielt Bratislava gegen Wien aus « DiePresse.com

james170969 29th Oct 2009 21:52

Is anyone experiencing difficulties with the Ryanair website at the moment? I am unable to book a flight on my laptop and keep getting a message saying, "Error - Your session has been locked
We are experiencing some difficulties with the website. Please wait 10 seconds and if you are not redirected back click here.

If you have already submitted payment your new reservation or flight change MAY have been confirmed.

Before starting again please firstly check your email account to see if you have received an email travel itinerary or alternatively you can check to see if your transaction processed by going to Manage Booking section of our website and completing the information required in Option 3."
However when I try to book a flight on my ipod I am not getting that message and can book my flight without any problem.

Charlie Roy 30th Oct 2009 11:23

Bordeaux
 
Bordeaux flights are now in the booking engine.
It has also been added to the route map albeit in the wrong place :p

Personally I think Bordeaux has a lot of potential. Routes to more existing bases wouldn't surprise me at all. W's originating from nearby bases (Marseille, Charleroi, London/England, Hahn, Bergamo, Girona) are also entirely possible.

boyzinblue 30th Oct 2009 20:18

Ryanair have confirmed that from April next year they will reduce there Shannon base from 3 to 1 aircraft.
A very bright for Ryanair decision considering they have made no money in Shannon in the last 5 years! Yeah right...and thats why FR had based 6 aircraft there at the peak.
It will be interesting to see what routes remain and which ones will be continued from other bases.

airhumberside 30th Oct 2009 21:43

The original FR 'threat' said the remaining aircraft would 'largely' fly to London and provincial UK airports. So that would imply routes like AGP/FAO/BVA would remain at token frequencies at best

LPFR 31st Oct 2009 20:38

Avoid which experience exactly?
If you book a flight is to FLY from A to B (or to C via B, whatever). It's all the same experience. You go to the airport, board, fly, and land, and that experience you get with any airline. Unless of course, you don't mind spending extra 40€, 50€ or 100€ for a dry sandwich and a cup of coffee. Not worthy in my opinion. With that money I go to a good restaurant when I arrive.

Wing Commander Fowler 31st Oct 2009 21:50

James 170969
 
James - its a biscuit thing...... clear your cookies and it should clear the path for you! Had an entire town near mine unable to book flights after the website "upgrade" about a year ago. Same issue. Great isn't it? :}

Noxegon 31st Oct 2009 22:18


Avoid which experience exactly?
The experience of cabin crew blasting the passengers on the PA system with sales announcements for lottery tickets, bullseye baggies, train tickets, et al - particularly pleasant on 6:00am flights it must be said...

flying_highover 31st Oct 2009 23:02

Personally, I just drift off. The announcements don't get to me. If I'm paying considerably less for what's a short flight anyways, it's all the same to me. They have to make announcements whatever airline you fly with. If you're that irritable then I suppose you have options to pay more..... But I like the way we all have choice in the matter.... I choose to fly cheapest....

mickyman 1st Nov 2009 01:26

People moaning about a service they dont use is a little
stupid.......

MM

Noxegon 1st Nov 2009 07:02

I don't have a choice most of the time, since EI do the same thing these days (though to a lesser degree for now).

It's just fresh in the mind at the moment since I took an internal flight in Greece recently that reminded me of how air travel could actually be pleasant.

LPFR 1st Nov 2009 19:57


The experience of cabin crew blasting the passengers on the PA system with sales announcements for lottery tickets, bullseye baggies, train tickets, et al - particularly pleasant on 6:00am flights it must be said...
Wow! Yeah, I will definetly pay some extra 50€ to fly another airline to avoid listening to the crew over the PA! Oh my god. Do you even call that an experience? lol. I've done some 6am flights, and I'm not bothered at all. I don't mind listening to a sweet female voice, or, if I dont want to, i just listen to my music. Why would someone pay extra because of that? In every airline there are cabin crew announcements.


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