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I'm also perplexed why Ryanair wouldn't consider moving to a next generation aircraft with more fuel efficient engines such as the Bombardier C series. The largest version is 149 seats which isn't small and would enable Ryanair to compete on thinner routes. A Bombardier/Ryanair deal would really make Bombardier a player in this segment of the market! |
New routes across Europe Düsseldorf (Weeze) and Brussels (Charleroi) are to benefit from the ever growing Irish airline with two and six new routes respectively. The German airport will benefit from one new aircraft, bringing the total to eight at the respective airport. This will lead to the introduction of two new routes to Lappeenranta, Finland and Szczecin, Poland from March 2010. The new Boeing jet will also mean frequency increases on a number of other routes: Barcelona (Girona); Faro; Ibiza; Malaga and Trapini. The base will now consist of 8 aircraft supporting 3,000 local jobs while carrying 3 million passengers between the airport and destinations across Europe. The second airport to benefit from expansion, Brussels (Charleroi), will see 50% more aircraft from March as the airline invests in a further 4 airplanes for the airfield bringing a total of twelve jets. This will increase passenger numbers to four million plus and sustain 4,000 local jobs. The six new routes are: Ibiza; Kaunas; Krakow; Nador; Seville and Zadar. Further increases in frequencies will also be added to a number of already established routes: Alicante 10pw Ancona 3pw Barcelona (Reus) 4pw Fez 4pw Madrid 19pw Marrakesh 3pw Oporto 5pw Palma 4pw Riga 6pw Rome (Ciampino) 21pw Tangier 3pw Trapani 4pw Valencia 6pw Valladolid 5pw Ryanair’s 4million passengers p.a. will sustain 4,000 local jobs in Charleroi in 2010. I somehow feel that some of these aircraft going to destinations across Europe could have been based on our shores. |
The Real Slim Shady, I cannot undersatnd your pessimsism about RYR's fleet numbers. Current published plans, all of which are in the reservations system and with bookings being taken require 232 aircraft before the end of March. The current delivery rate is 4 aircraft per month. Still to be announced are the additional routes and frequencies that will inevitably be announced for later in 2010. Every month for years now RYR has announced new routes and frequencies. Sure there are cancellations and winter cutbacks. The net effect however is a growth rate that has not been below 12% per year for years now. It will be the same for this year and next year.
On this basis the maximum fleet to be operated this summer will be around 245 aircraft and in 2011 it will be in the range 270-280, maybe just a few more. The 2012 figure will be around 315-320. What MOL is talking with Boeing about is primarily a net fleet increase beyond these figures to around 360 in 2013 amd over 400 in 2014. The are a lot of RYR knockers in these columns but do not forget that RYR has become by far the biggest single European airline in terms of pax carried. Over these next four years its annual pax will grow from 67 million to around a hundred million in 2013. RYR has enormous growth opportunities. It is truly a pan-European airline. In this field it is already half as big again as its nearest competitor and the gap is growing rapidly. It has achieved this by growing the market and bringing airline service to cities that effectively had none before. It can do this by sheer efficiency. I have been a big user of RYR in the last couple of years. All my flights have arrived on time or early. Not one minute's delay. Every time I have checked baggage it has been on the belt before I have got there. I have never experienced this level of service on any other airline. On top of all that my travel bill has gone down about 40%. I can now even use my phone on board. That is why people use RYR. It has got all the key components that people want to buy and it is becauase of that that it wiii acquire those planes and people will buy seats on those planes. |
What was in the 'small print' of a recent Boeing contract that caught MOL out and has him so perturbed?
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Something to do with performance guarantees (or lack of)?
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Colegate,
thanks I know all about the expansion, how many airplanes are needed per year, what they are for, and probably more than you having been at the company meetings. I also know the next 3 bases as well. I was taking the MOL ! |
The Real Slim Shady,
I made my posting because I really get fed up with Ryanair knockers. I had no idea that you might be associated with the company in some way. I worked in airlines for many years latterly at Director level. I am now retired and it is a few years since I worked in an airline. I have a number of fine pioneering schemes to my name, attempting to get low fares approved in a time of intense anti-competitive regulation was one of them. I would like the knockers to read this posting because it may help them to recognise waht is going on in the real world. Fact, Ryanair has been in a sustained growth programme for at least the last fifteen years. In that time it has grown from nearly nothing to be the largest airline passenger carrier in Europe. There is no way that that can have been achieved without massive customer support. The knockers acgieve nothing, the passengers make the company. Fact, RYR has a strong balance sheet with more than 2 bilion Euros of cash. How many other airlines in the world can claim that? Fact, the company's growth has enabled it to break out from its homeland to operate a network that encompasses almost every European country. In doing so it has become the largest airline in Ireland, the second largest in UK, Italy, Spain, Belgium, Poland, Malta etc. No other airline has achieved anything like that. Fact, RYR has achieved double digit growth through the teeth of a two year recession. No other significant airline in the world has achieved that. Fact, No other airline in the world has as many bases at which saircrfat and crew are based. Fact, RYR has brought airline service to numerous cities that previously had none. This has grown the overall European market and provided previously impossible travel opportunitiews. Ask any one in provincial Poland, Italy, Spain just how much they have benefitted from this. Fact, with the lowest retail prices, RYR achieves the highest profits. This is done by sheer efficiency at all levels. Fact RYR achieves the best punctuality performance of any substantial airline in Europe. Punctuality is a vital customer service standard. Fact, RYR loses fewer bags than any other European airline. Fact RYR uses some terminals that are vastly more efficient than those used by BA, LH etc. I was very impressed by the simplicty and operating efficiences possible at Ciampino and Budapest terminal 1. In doing all this and more RYR has set a completely new standard. My own experience is that over 20 sectors in the lase 18 months all flights have arrived early or on time. My baggage has always been on the belt before I have been able to get there. I have never experienced that with any other airline. The lowest fare I paid was 1 euro cent including tax. I expect soon to be able to find a flight to somewher I want to go for nothing. I look forward to a flight sometime probably in 2013 when RYR carry their 100 millionth passenger in a single year. It would be great to be that passenger. |
One reason why they lose less bags is due to the smaller amount carried due to surcharges for baggage. Pax refuse to pay it and cram things into their handluggage and buy the rest at the destination !:ugh:
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One reason why they lose less bags is due to the smaller amount carried due to surcharges for baggage. Pax refuse to pay it and cram things into their handluggage and buy the rest at the destination ! FR in following Flybe in introducing charges has changed the way people travel and stopped the lets take loads of stuff just in case we need it. A big benefit has been that aircraft don't burn fuel to carry stuff from country to country that stays in a suitcase. |
.and why would anyone want to pay £135 to bring 20 kilos of dirty washing home, when they only paid £35 for themselves?
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why would anyone want to pay £135 to bring 20 kilos of dirty washing home |
Colegate, well done on an excellent posting. I can concur that I have never had a delayed Ryanair (well one substantial one and that wasnt their fault at all-sick passenger on board on arrival).
The plane is always modern and quite new, it always has left on time, I have flown to all over Europe on Ryanair some flights at 1p each way. I remember the day they that Ryanair first took off I was very young. Being an Irishman, I have an immense sense of pride about Ryanair. I was flying into Alicante late one Friday night in September and there was a line of Shiny new 738s at the terminal, it was an amazing site. What was even more impressive was that these aircraft had arrived from all over Europe not just from its country or Origin or the UK! Long may their growth continue and to hell with the begrudgers!! On the subject of Boeing and Ryanair being at odds, I would like to see Ryanair looking at a second type eg C Series and this would allow them to serve routes that are either marginal or too thin for 738, (or routes who would be attractive to airlines like BE at multi daily frequencies). There are a host of destinations/routes that Ryanair probably wont do with a 738. Boeing ok have been good to Ryanair but for me this is Ryanair's signal to look to a smaller type and then wait and see what opportunities arise later in the next decade!!! EI-BUD |
Just heard on the RTE Radio evening programme that the Irish Aviation Authority have 666 members of staff and for the most recent year for which records are available their pay bill was Euro 90 million.
I can barely add so someone will have to work out the figures for me but it has got to be a nice tidy sum per employee when you do the numbers! That is interesting - 666 members of staff - it just jumps out at you! |
Press conference with MOL on Wednesday in Faro.
The press release that informs about the press conference has exactly the same information that the one that informed about the press conference that announced the base at Porto. |
EI-BUD. Thanks.
Yes it right tht there are routes that are too small for the 738 but I do not think that RYR will ever operate another completely different type. Their business model depends on simplicity. Everything has to be the same. What they are going to have to do though is get closer to the really big markets which already generate vast traffic volumes for numerous airlines. They are very weak in Paris and Berlin just for starters. The Rhine basin needs more flights and routes. Scotland looks to be opening up for them if the rumours about Globespan are half true. Leeds/Bradford serves the second largest conurbation in Britain and offers huge opportunities. They can surely offer better prices and services than Jet2. There are opportunities at Gatwick. Spain and Italy are both excellent opportunities for them. The largest carriers in both countries are strapped by high costs. They have nothing in Greece and the Canaries, particularly to Scandinavia in the winter have huge promise. IMHOThere will be little difficulty in filling the next 200 hundred planes. |
IMHOThere will be little difficulty in filling the next 200 hundred planes. |
Yep, and its the most popular story on the papers website now. Not quite as sensational and incorrect as would be printed in their main competitors though. Said competitor published an article this year about going to the Berlin love parade... which is strange because it hasnt happened in 2 years!
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According other (German) Forums, Ryanair will announce two new bases (FAO and AGP) within a few days from now.... :D
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The flight reductions from Dublin seem to continue over the Summer. In mid-October FR already started selling the tickets for the DUB-TMP route for the period end March till the end of the season. Yesterday all flights have disappeared from the booking system. If not switching to Helsinki, what is unlikely, it looks like the next route originating from Dublin is to be totally discontinued.
----------------------- Here in Finland, I've observed the surge of interest in Lappeenranta flights coming from across the Russian border. The English-language Sankt-Petersburg Times has published an opinion of Mr. Sergei Korneyev, the head of the northwestern branch of the Russian Tourism Union. “It’s very likely that the flight will be popular, particularly during the economic crisis when everyone is trying to save money. Many people in St. Petersburg already take budget flights to Europe from the airports of Riga, Tallinn and Helsinki. Such trips may not be very convenient because of the transfers, but there’s no doubt that they allow you to save money,” said Korneyev. The newspaper interviewed also Ryanair's McNamara, whose answer was pretty brusque: “Our target group is very broad. We’re interested in anyone who has a form of payment and a pulse,” that's all what McNamara was able to say. A dozen of Russian-language articles were much more passionate. In spite of my very unsatisfactory school knowledge of Russian, I'll try to translate you some fragments. О присутствии Ryanair в аэропорту Лаппеенранты давно мечтали любители дешевых авиаперевозок. The lovers of cheap air travel have long dreamed of Ryanair's presence at the airport of Lappeenranta. (Gorod 812).По различным оценкам, спрос на бюджетные полеты в Европу может составить минимум 20-30 тыс. пассажиров в месяц только в Петербурге. Если взять соседние регионы, то очевидно, что выбор Лаппеенранты откроет Ryanair путь на огромный российский рынок и будет экономически оправдан. According to various estimates, the demand for budget flights to Europe could reach at least 20-30 thousand passengers per month only in St. Petersburg. If you take also the neighboring regions, it is obvious that the choice of Lappeenranta will open Ryanair the way for Russia's huge market and be economically justified. (Ratanews)70 000 жителей Лаппеенранты и окрестностей рейс точно не загрузят. Прицел взят на Питер, до которого всего 200 км. До Лаппеенранты можно доехать микроавтобусом за 15 евро, или на своей машине. Парковка в местном аэропорту стоит в два раза дешевле пулковской (4 евро в день). Проблема только в непредсказуемых очередях на КПП в Брусничном, за 15 км от аэропорта. 70 000 residents of Lappeenranta is not enough for a flight load. The sight is taken to Petersburg only 200 km away. Lappeenranta can be reached by minibus for 15 euros, or by own car. Parking at the local airport is two times cheaper than Pulkovo (4 euros per day). The only problem is the unpredictable queuing at a checkpoint in Brusnichnoe, 15 km from the airport. (St. Peterburzhets)Лаппеенранта уведет пассажиров из Пулково. Лаппеенранта находится к Петербургу ближе, чем к Хельсинки и Тампере, откуда сейчас летают бюджетные авиакомпании. И появление в местном аэропорту дискаунтеров может спровоцировать отток пассажиров из Пулково-2. Если в Лаппеенранту действительно придет Ryanair, летать из финского города будет значительно дешевле, чем из питерского Пулково-2, - даже с учетом затрат на бензин и парковку или трансфер из Петербурга в Лаппеенранту. Lappeenranta will drive away passengers from Pulkovo. Located closer to St. Petersburg than Helsinki and Tampere, where the budget airlines now fly, the discounters may provoke outflow of passengers from the Pulkovo-2. Flying from the Finnish city will be much cheaper than from the St. Petersburg Pulkovo-2 - even taking into account the cost of petrol and parking or shuttle service from St. Petersburg to Lappeenranta. (812 online)Бюджетные авиаперевозчики окружили Петербург. Ирландский лоукостер Ryanair объявил, что в апреле начет полеты из аэропорта финского города Лаппенранта, который находится всего в 200 км от Петербурга. Из–за политики российских авиационных властей цены на полеты из России лоукостерами значительно отличаются от установленных в соседних государствах Европы. Поэтому многие путешественники предпочитают добираться наземным транспортом до Хельсинки, Тампере, Риги или Таллина, а уже оттуда лететь в Европу. Budget carriers have surrounded Petersburg. Low-coster Irish Ryanair has announced that it will start flights from the airport of Lappeenranta, which is located just (!) 200 kilometers from St. Petersburg. Because of the Russian aviation authorities' policy of prices on flights from Russia differ significantly from those established in the neighboring countries of Europe. That's why many travelers prefer to travel by road to Helsinki, Tampere, Riga or Tallinn, and from there fly to Europe. (Delovoi Peterburg)Anyway, the Russians seem to have much more expectations concerning this route and are much more optimistic than Ryanair itself... :8 |
Pee, thank you for observation or Russian press. There is really a huge enthusiasm about this route here, in Saint Petersburg.
Only few days of sale behind, but almost all starting promotional fares (12 euros one way) for April and May flights are gone. The price of the very first flight LPP - NRN at 1st of April is already 55.47 euros, return flight at April, 4 is 51.06 euros. Taxes and fees from Lappeenranta are 20.48 euroes per person and the are similar for the ones in Tampere. |
Hey EI-BUD
Completely concur about the need for Ryanair to operate a second smaller ac. The 738 is just too big for alot of routes. Also, a more economical plane might actually open up new routes from some of the smaller airports they service. As an aside I would say pretty much the same about Aer Lingus and the A320. As for Ryanair fly to Russia, is this 100% because I have been hearing that rumour for at least 3.5-4 years:) C |
Faro's set to be announced tomorrow.
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a more economical plane might actually open up new routes from some of the smaller airports they service |
Faro and Malaga to be announced as bases tomorrow.
Sunshine and water anyone? Anyone.....? |
News in AGP & FAO
News for tomorrow (in Spanish):
News in Málaga: 16-Dec-2009 - 09,30 horas: en Málaga, el presidente de Ryanair, Michael O'Leary, anuncia novedades de la línea aérea de bajo coste para Málaga. En la sala de prensa del aeropuerto de Málaga. Agenda 16-december-2009 ***** And then in Faro (in Portuguese): News in Faro: O secretário de Estado do Turismo Bernardo Trindade participa amanhã, dia 16, às 10h00, na apresentação do importante aumento da capacidade aérea do Aeroporto de Faro, no âmbito do Programa Iniciative.pt. [...] As 25 novas ligações aéreas reforçam, ainda segundo a mesma nota, «o comprometimento do Governo no desenvolvimento das diversas regiões, bem como a aposta por parte das companhias aéreas em Portugal». Esta apresentação será seguida de uma conferência de imprensa, que contará com a companhia aérea lowcost Ryanair. News in Faro ***** |
So according to that article 25 new routes for Faro. That's a huge number of routes.
I'm guessing a lot of France, Germany, UK and Scandinavia. Not forgetting Eindhoven. (Maybe they mean a total of 25 Ryanair routes from Faro? Wait and see I suppose...) Malaga press conference at 8:30am GMT, Faro at 10:00am GMT. |
Would be interesting though if they go to EIN from FAO (and maybe AGP).
Some years ago transavia.com started EIN-ALC/AGP/FAO to "stop ryanair going into every market" as they said. This winter Ryanair started EIN-ALC in direct competition to transavia.com and now FAO and AGP could come as well. There's no way that transavia.com can sustain these flights, but ALC-EIN was the first route in direct competition and maybe they're happy with the results(and transavia.com isn't). |
Faro - Paris (Beauvais)
Faro - Madrid Faro - Marselle Faro - Milan (Bergamo) Faro - Eindhoven Faro - Birmingham Faro - Maastricht Faro - Billund Faro - Stockholm (Skavsta) Faro - Oslo (Rygge) Faro - Memmingen (Munich West) Malaga - Krakow Malaga - Paris(Beauvais) Malaga - Berlin Malaga - Bratislava Malaga - Maastricht Malaga - Eindhoven Malaga - Gothenburg City Málaga - Santiago Malaga - Santander Malaga - Aarhus Malaga - Zaragoza Malaga - Tampere edit: add Faro - Knock Faro - Kerry Faro - Derry Malaga - Valladolid Malaga - Memmingen (Munich West) and maybe more to come... |
Malaga - Tampere
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Assuming this all comes to fruition tomorrow (and I have no reason to believe otherwise), 14 new routes from Faro, 14 new routes from Malaga and 7 new routes from Alicante all announced in a 10 day period seems to indicate one big new bet on beach routes to the Iberian peninsula.
I'm sure FR know what they're doing though ! |
Ryanair ANNOUNCES 38th BASE AT Malaga 4 aircraft, 39 routes and 2M passengerS P.A. from 2010 Ryanair today (16th Dec 09) announced it would open its 38th base at Malaga in June 2010 with 4 based aircraft and 19 new routes (39 in total) being launched. Ryanair will create over 200 direct jobs and offer 360 weekly flights to/from Malaga in an investment of over $250 million in the airport. Ryanair's 19 new routes from Malaga to Aarhus, Berlin (Schonefeld), Bratislava, Eindhoven, Gothenburg, Krakow, Maastricht, Memmingen (Munich West), Oslo (Torp), Paris (Beauvais), Pisa, Santander, Santiago, Stockholm (Skavsta), Tampere, Valladolid, Venice (Treviso), Wroclaw and Zaragoza will increase Ryanair's traffic at Malaga to over 2m passengers p.a. which will sustain 2,000 well paid local jobs in the Malaga region. |
Malaga - Tampere pee will be in his element If it's a pure coincidence, "every dog has his day", they say... |
New route blurb
Here's the official blurb for the new base in Faro (14 new routes, 3 aircraft)
Ryanair Announces 39th Base at Faro - London Stock Exchange And SNN-ALC and SNN-FAO "switched" to NOC and KIR (although ALC-NOC is an existing route): Ryanair Switches Shannon Routes to Kerry and Knock - London Stock Exchange |
Is Malaga-Tampere going to be the longest Ryanair route, then? Great Circle Mapper says it's 1824 nm as the crow flies - Stansted to Gander would only be 2061 nm great circle! :-)
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The new Maastricht schedules have been published at the Airport's website. FAO 3x weekly and AGP 2x weekly.
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Origin Dest. Flight Days Depart. Arrival |
Cyrano,
What interesting data! What chance 737-800s flying Stansted-Gander- (fill in blank space)? (Please, no responses along the lines "MOL has stated that Ryanair will not introduce trans-Atlantic services" etc., etc.; I know all about it!) |
Dont know about Gander but I am sure that there are a lot of Newfoundlanders that would be more than happy about a three or four weekly flight from Stansted to St Johns? I bet the Newfoundland government would be more than happy to provide some incentive funds to re-establish a St Johns - London flight in the wake of the departure of the short lived Air Canada A319 service from a few years ago and preceding that the 767 service. There must be a reasonable market there as even I know a person whom was a regular on that flight down the years.
Would be worth a punt over the course of a summer season to see if it would work so how about it? If we ask Leo nicely he might be good enough to say to it Michael? |
Going to newfoundland might be a slight problem as the 738's are only fitted with HF radios for delivery, and they would be required to operate flights across the pond. Also crew duty hours etc would become an issue.
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They'd have to reinstall them back into a practical number of aircraft, some crew may require HF training :suspect:......and other associated costs, it probably wont happen.
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Faro - Paris (Beauvais) Faro - Madrid Faro - Marselle Faro - Milan (Bergamo) Faro - Eindhoven Faro - Birmingham Faro - Maastricht Faro - Billund Faro - Stockholm (Skavsta) Faro - Oslo (Rygge) Faro - Memmingen (Munich West) Malaga - Krakow Malaga - Paris(Beauvais) Malaga - Berlin Malaga - Bratislava Malaga - Maastricht Malaga - Eindhoven Malaga - Gothenburg City Málaga - Santiago Malaga - Santander Malaga - Aarhus Malaga - Zaragoza Malaga - Tampere edit: add Faro - Knock Faro - Kerry Faro - Derry Malaga - Valladolid Malaga - Memmingen (Munich West) Malaga - Pisa Malaga - Oslo Torp Malaga - Stockholm Skavsta Malaga - Venice Treviso Malaga - Wroclaw Alicante - Kerry Pisa - Krakow Stockholm Skavsta - Beziers Oslo Rygge - Zadar Wroclaw - Bologna After Spaniards, the second-largest population living around Malaga are Finnish people. FARO Of the 14 new routes, 7 are to existing bases. These 14 new routes are being made possible by 6 aircraft! So far I have heard some frequencies of the new routes, and they are not very high, but granted the average sector length is long. But 6 aircraft! I imagine some of Faro's existing routes will now instead be operated by Faro based aircraft, thereby freeing up a bit of capacity at the other bases concerned. MALAGA Of the new routes only 2 are to existing bases. The 4 aircraft will operate rather long sectors, although the domestic flights will help to keep the average sector length under control. It's only a matter of time before we see a Madrid route, even if there are already 3 other airlines on it.
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