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pamann 5th Apr 2010 17:47

Has it not been said a fair bit on the Southend thread that even with the runway extension FR's 738's would be pay load restricted? EZY's 319's would be fine. I can't see FR at Cambridge that is just pointless with Stansted on it's doorstep and I certainly don't see them at Southend either due to the above. If they wanted another SE base then the likes of Manston (being Infratil) or even Norwich would be their best option.

mickyman 5th Apr 2010 18:38

Who the hell does MOL think he is.......Gordon Brown!!

Good to see some 'old faithful' enemies of Ryanair taking
up the baton and running with it.Still if the judge is happy
to accept MOL's cringing apology then who are we.

I am reminded of an episode of Father Ted when Father Jack
(the drunkard) has to apologise to a Bishops' aide !!

MM

danielmellor 5th Apr 2010 22:09

Flew 4 Ryanair Flights Last week :ooh:

BHD - STN - SNN

SNN - LPL - BHD

and I Must say, I was very satisfied ;)

All flights On Time etc..

When flying out of shannon though i was the only passenger going through security and in the departure lounge for around 15-20 Minutes it was realli weird

apaul 6th Apr 2010 15:16

Ryanair stooping to new depths in exploiting family holidaymakers with increased luggage charges for July and August. News : Ryanair Urges Passengers to Travel Light During Peak Summer Months

Noxegon 6th Apr 2010 15:22

You've got to laugh - they're complaining that a €10 departure tax in Ireland will prevent people from flying - what about a €5 increase in luggage charges?

And please, no Ryanair apologists saying to travel with hand luggage only; on a two week holiday it can't be done.

MUFC_fan 6th Apr 2010 15:31

They aren't 'steeping to new lows' as this has just been set by Spirit airlines in the US:

Spirit Airlines to charge up to $45 for carry-on bags in overhead bin starting Aug. 1 | Markets | Market News | Canadian Business Online

However, Ryanair really are trying to push passengers into using simply on board luggage and I can understand perfectly why:

Reduces ground costs
Reduces turnaround times
Reduces fuel use:

69.5m passengers
82% load factor
30% passengers put baggage in the hold
15kg limit

=256,455,000kg maximum carried per year with check baggage (assuming all bags are 15kg). I'm sure if they lost that weight they would be very pleased! Even if it brings in at the moment the same in €s!


You've got to laugh - they're complaining that a €10 departure tax in Ireland will prevent people from flying - what about a €5 increase in luggage charges?

And please, no Ryanair apologists saying to travel with hand luggage only; on a two week holiday it can't be done.
There is a clear difference which is something Ryanair continue to try and get across to the more, how can I put this, 'straight-forward minded' - is that a good way of putting it?

Anyway, the DAA charge is compulsory - you have no choice whatsoever. The Ryanair charge is very much an option - and they very much want you to turn them down! They want you to say no and fly without them! They save, you save!

Your right - two weeks probably cannot be done with 10kg luggage, however lets look at the facts - Ryanair's passenger numbers continue to rise - the DAA...a story for another day...

eu01 6th Apr 2010 15:58


Originally Posted by danielmellor (Post 5617396)
When flying out of shannon though i was the only passenger going through security and in the departure lounge for around 15-20 Minutes it was realli weird

But you weren't the only pax, were you? FR's recent reductions @SNN seem perfectly understandable. It's only unjust to blame everybody else for this lack of demand there. Probably not Ryanairs fault either, as mostly the demographic objectives are precluding the growth. You simply cannot tell people to fly more.

BFS101 6th Apr 2010 16:07

The fact that Ryanair are only implementing the additional charges for July and August, the two busiest months for summer sun holidays, combined with my opinion that it's passengers going away for a week or two in the sun that actually require the facility of checked luggage, this just seems to me an additional money making scheme.

If it was a longer term strategy, maybe, but to only apply to the peak summer, looks like extra revenue generation. A city break or couple of days away, most passengers can do with 10kg cabin baggage, but to try and pack for a week or two into cabin baggage, I'd reckon could reduce overall enjoyment of the holiday, and add a heck of a lot more stress travelling.

Ryanair often loudly voiced their opinion on the dinosaur legacy carriers and their rip-off fuel surcharges. I see this as a blatant, hypocritical, luggage surcharge; were the extra cost of checking in baggage with Ryanair, does not accurately reflect the true cost of checking in said baggage. The extra money generated from this, will just subsidise more headlining loss-leading low fares for advertising purposes, and to get bums on seats.

Random Flyer 6th Apr 2010 16:41

Are Ryanair trying to force holiday makers to use other airlines? Expecting families going away for a week or two to just take carry on luggage is laughable.

flying_shortly 6th Apr 2010 19:09

Makes sense if you ask me.

Take the average 2 child family. More than likely you might bundle the childrens' clothes in with the parents'... Therefore, that's two seats down without posibility for money generation. On the whole the major costs when going on holiday are accom., food and drink. Do you think the average non-aviation enthusist, lager lout Brit is going to research baggage fees of on average e15 when the hotel costs e1000/week?

Another reason to put on my 'why is Ryanair doing so well' list!

qwertyuiop 6th Apr 2010 19:15

Question.

Having already booked a flight in Aug with RYR, am I now subject to these NEW extra charges?

compton3bravo 6th Apr 2010 19:43

WRONG QUERTY - as you have already booked your flight you are not subject to the new charges as it relates to new bookings from midnight on 6th April. Read the blurb on the Ryanair website.

bjones4 6th Apr 2010 22:34

Ryanair toilet charges to be phased in | Mail Online

"Ryanair confirms it WILL bring in charges for on-board toilets"

Mr McNamara is still determined he can wedge an extra 6 seats in there despite the certificates saying otherwise.

boyzinblue 7th Apr 2010 12:39

NEW: Kerry to Weeze

ceimanfhiadh 7th Apr 2010 12:40

I like Ryanair but that €5 increase is an absolute disgrace.

Daffydil 7th Apr 2010 15:36

Bag surcharge
 
Perhaps Ryanir's rivals will now start marketing themselves as "no bag surcharges" ever. What's Ryan going to do next - extend the surcharge to Christmas and Easter then the half term holiday periods and skiing weekends? Then join the dots and increase bag fees all round then announce another bag surcharge for July and August?

Stinks!

WallyWumpus 7th Apr 2010 15:41

I wish RYR did not charge for bags, in the same way I wish BA did not charge for fuel.

The bottom line is, in my opinion, as long as this charge, and all others, are not "hidden", then they are entitled to charge any amount of money for any service they want to offer. We, the consumer, get to vote with our feet. As long as RYR remain cheapest on any given route, I'll keep paying the money. When there is a cheaper alternative available, I won't.

I'll even go further (any offence coming up is not malicious), if charging families, who absolutely MUST take bags with them, means my 'single person' fares come down a little - brilliant!

Wally.

Suzeman 7th Apr 2010 18:29


NEW: Kerry to Weeze
Only on the aircraft if she pays her £ or Euro......:ok:

Suzeman

heidelberg 8th Apr 2010 09:25

Ryanair profits rise despite......
 
The profits continue to rise despite all those people who moan and moan about Ryanair.

The latest financials show they now have lots of cash, virtually no debt, market share gains, a rising share price and buoyant profits.

MOL and Co are very obviously doing a hell of a lot more right than wrong especially when compared to most European based carriers.

I don't agree with everything they do either but Ryanair constantly give excellent value most of the time and the increasing numbers flying with them proves it.

boyzinblue 8th Apr 2010 11:05

FR state that a potential 5 new routes from Belfast have been lost due to the NI governments decision for a public inquiry to the extension of the runway which could take 12 months.
They also state that the current routes will continue "although passenger and baggage numbers continue to be impacted by the City Airports short runway".
What has the length of the current runway got to do with current passenger and baggage numbers?


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