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Larrylaz 18th Jun 2013 20:41

Absolutely definitely not!!!!!

rowly6339 18th Jun 2013 22:32

What will happen to SEN once the A319s have all been replaced with bigger craft.

canberra97 19th Jun 2013 00:39

Easyjet are not replacing all of their A319 fleet with the larger A320.

Expressflight 19th Jun 2013 07:13

rowly6339

I think EZY may have something to say about SEN tomorrow and perhaps any effect of this week's orders might get a mention.

scr1 26th Jun 2013 18:49

Easy jet replacing some of the fly be flights to INV one of which will be a night stop

BBC News - Easyjet guarantees Inverness routes

edinv 27th Jun 2013 09:03

EZY DEP INV 0645 & DEP LGW 2000 flight agreement
 
A 5 year deal agreed between EZY and HIAL Inverness which effectively means supported and approved by Scottish Government, HIALs owners.

Wycombe 27th Jun 2013 15:14

As this very much represents a departure from the "holy grail" of the low-cost model, of no night-stops away from base for crew or aircraft, you can bet that EZY have got the overnight hotac and aircraft parking expenses up in INV paid for by HIAL/Scottish Govt. as part of this deal.

Out of interest, is there anywhere else on the EZY network that nightstops down-route happen?

I wonder if they might strike a similar deal down in NQY?

manx crab 27th Jun 2013 15:40

I imagine the Isle of Man Airport are desperate to get a similar result at this moment.

I wonder how much it will cost the Manx taxpayers :{

Flightrider 27th Jun 2013 15:47

The LGW slots which EZY have acquired from Flybe are all scheduled for aircraft overnighting away from base and arriving into LGW between 0755 and 0855, then departing between 0830 and 0930. It's inevitable that you will see some more EZY nightstops away from the LGW base next summer, and although some might be used for services to LGW from other EZY bases (maybe NCL?) then not all can be.

They do already operate some nightstops away - from memory, I think LGW crews overnight MAD and BCN and I'm sure someone will be able to correct me or add more to that list.

Captain_Caveman 27th Jun 2013 18:15

Yes Wycombe

Madrid, Barcelona, Copenhagen currently for Gatwick crew, over the past few years upto 15 routes around the network had night stopping crew so it's not really something new... At one point crews from Luton used to night stop in Aberdeen !!

easy 27th Jun 2013 18:22

Yes, we used to stop in Paris, Palma, Malaga, Madrid, Barcelona, Nice, Dortmund.... don't ever remember stopping in Aberdeen;)

compton3bravo 27th Jun 2013 18:23

Proposed increasein gatwick landing fees
 
I see the airline has issued a short statement announcing their displeasure in the proposed increase in landing fees at London Gatwick which will be RPI +1.5 per cent. The thing is what are you going to do about it with 50 plus aircraft based and the largest operator. How many times have we seen this at airports when one airline is by far the largest operator i.e. Ryanair at Stansted with BAA. It was only a matter of time that this situation would raise its ugly head at Gatwick.

Captain_Caveman 27th Jun 2013 22:31

easy... I remember doing many of them myself :)

easyflyer83 27th Jun 2013 23:14

Yep, nightstopping really isn't a new thing for Easyjet at all. There's never been a firm and steadfast reluctance to nightstop AFIK. In fact if it wasn't for the bases across Europe I reckon there would be more night stoppers. There has to be a business case for it though, like everything. BA, LH etc don't nightstop crew to be nice. Certainly on a short haul basis it's all to do with getting early flights into the business centres and feeding into the network. Easy doesn't interline or feed and the European bases often assist in getting early departures and arrivals. That said, nightstopping isn't as expensive as everyone makes out.

Nightstops were also prevelent in Easyjet's infancy aswell.

Wycombe 28th Jun 2013 08:31

Thanks to those who have put me right re. nightstops in EZY.

If the charges are going up at LGW, it might make sense to do a bit more of it...especially IF someone else is picking-up the tab.

Flightrider 28th Jun 2013 10:15

The economics of nightstops versus no nightstops at LGW have changed in the last year as GIP have restructured the charges.

Before, you used to pay a landing fee only and that varied based on your time of arrival - so the charges for an aircraft which landed at 2230 and then departed at 0700 were based on an off-peak landing fee only - which was about £400.

As of 1 April 2013, they have split the charge into separate fees for landing and take-off. You now pay a £247 charge for landing at 2230 and a £752 charge for take-off at 0700 as that's a peak departure - so basically for every nightstopping aircraft, your runway charges have shot up from £400 to £1000 (in broad terms).

Assuming easyJet are paying fees based on the published structure of charges at LGW - which is not a foregone conclusion - then with 50 based aircraft x 180 days in the summer season, it's £5.4m extra. Nasty.

chaps2011 28th Jun 2013 10:46

That make it a very big ouch or a couple of quid extra per pax

Chaps

Ramper1 28th Jun 2013 12:15

Captain caveman...... I've been at Easyjet for 13 years and have never nightstopped in Aberdeen. Gla, bfs and edi yes, but NEVER Aberdeen. So don't know where you got that one from

Captain_Caveman 28th Jun 2013 14:41

Ramper I've been at easy a couple of years longer than you then and we used to do split duty night stops in Aberdeen on the 737-200 fleet !! That makes me feel old.
We also used to nightstop in Edinburgh, Glasgow, Athens, Amsterdam Liverpool Barcelona Geneva Nice Belfast Madrid & Palma as well !!

Another nightstop for the current list is Palermo. This is for Milan based crew.

ReallyAnnoyed 28th Jun 2013 14:57

Not entirely sure, but I think there may be Napoli nightstop for the Malpensa crews as well and Linate nightstops for the fiumicino crowd.


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