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canberra97 9th Sep 2017 19:45

In 1983 Wardair were given permission to operate scheduled flights between Canada and the United Kingdom where as before they were classed as ABC flights as in 'Advanced Booking Charters'.

In addition to the regular Wardair departure airports such as London Gatwick, Manchester and Prestwick at the time scheduled flights were permitted additional UK airports were added to their network such as Belfast, Birmingham, Cardiff, Leeds/Bradford, London Stansted and Newcastle.

Wardair had during that period quite an extensive network of scheduled flights between the United Kingdom and Canada and were renouned for their in flight service and hospitality.

Of course CP Air had a large amount of flights also from the regions but those were still ABC flights.

SWBKCB 9th Sep 2017 19:55

Thanks - it was '81 when I was involved with them, so fits for both of us. Excellent answer! :ok:

jensdad 9th Sep 2017 19:57

Interesting info, Canberra. From memory, I think the Newcastle flights at various times operated either via Prestwick or as a double drop with Birmingham, Belfast or possibly Cardiff.

tigertanaka 10th Sep 2017 10:33


Originally Posted by jensdad (Post 9887154)
Sorry, the Isle of Man is also - like Jersey - not part of the UK. Before someone is pedantic about my pedantry. :)

The thing about pedantry is that it puts people off making useful contributions on forums like this.

Richard Taylor 10th Sep 2017 10:51


Originally Posted by tigertanaka (Post 9886909)
Came across a timetable for scheduled flights from NCL in 1983. Flights were:

ABZ - Dan Air (1 daily on weekends)

I recall this routing at weekends - I seem to think it also operated this routing on bank holidays but stand to be corrected on that.

Flight No. was DAN 161 ABZ-NCL when I recalled it (it also used the flight no. as its callsign in a time when Dan used alpha-numeric callsigns on some flights) & 168 on the return evening leg NCL-ABZ. Don't know if the flight nos. changed on the NCL-LGW-NCL legs.

Usually with the 1-11.

SWBKCB 10th Sep 2017 11:27


The thing about pedantry is that it puts people off making useful contributions on forums like this
Well, as Jensdad was correcting himself, hopefully he hasn't put himself off posting in future. Personally, I quite like a bit of accuracy in posts - it makes them more useful when a bit of thought has been put in :ok:

Iank72 10th Sep 2017 14:51


Originally Posted by Richard Taylor (Post 9887602)
I recall this routing at weekends - I seem to think it also operated this routing on bank holidays but stand to be corrected on that.

Flight No. was DAN 161 ABZ-NCL when I recalled it (it also used the flight no. as its callsign in a time when Dan used alpha-numeric callsigns on some flights) & 168 on the return evening leg NCL-ABZ. Don't know if the flight nos. changed on the NCL-LGW-NCL legs.

Usually with the 1-11.

I.remember DA161/2 operating on Saturday mornings ABZ-NCL-LGW-NCL-ABZ and Sunday evenings as DA167/8 with 1-11 400s. Probably thinking now this might have been 84/85 though.

DanAir89 10th Sep 2017 18:16

love a bit of Dan Air chat but can't believe I'm not the only one who remembers their flight numbers. My "favourite" being DA89xx, the positioning flight number with the last two letters of the aircraft reg.

HH6702 10th Sep 2017 18:27

Remember flying dan air 727 and 732 to jersey in 1987/88

inOban 10th Sep 2017 18:31

There is a nostalgia forum......!

DanAir89 10th Sep 2017 18:39


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 9887915)
There is a nostalgia forum......!

What a disappointing contribution!' It'll be back on track to "wish lists" Soon enough.

See TUI will be doing SKG next year.

inOban 10th Sep 2017 19:01

I was only joking. I'm not really a miserable git. I'm just as frustrated by some poster's fanciful dreams.

jensdad 10th Sep 2017 21:43


Originally Posted by DanAir89 (Post 9887905)
love a bit of Dan Air chat but can't believe I'm not the only one who remembers their flight numbers. My "favourite" being DA89xx, the positioning flight number with the last two letters of the aircraft reg.


And DA51T, used when they used to spend endless hours driving a 737 or similar round the circuit.
Thinking about the DA89XX, something is telling me they used different numbers for different types? I definitely remember DA79XX and DA99XX being used. Might just have been if they had two or three positioning flights in the air at the same time though.

Jamesair 10th Sep 2017 22:28

Getting back to possible route announcements for next summer, I will be surprised if Naples is not one of them.

EK77WNCL 10th Sep 2017 22:43

Don't get me wrong... But:

- Great news about TOM to SKG, but in actual fact:
--- There is no net increase as it is a simple swap of the Thursday morning FAO rotation that is being dropped
--- WHY do airlines insist on doing this, Jet2 got there first, so naturally TOM jumps onboard as well. How well did that go in Funchal? (Granted, that was LS jumping on TOM's turf - but they still lost) and how well did that go for TCX in Almeria? TCX in Paphos?

Why didn't Thomson go for Mykonos instead? Unserved and more high end. Right up their street

I hope to GOD that Naples is not announced for summer 2018 with easyJet, Ryanair, Jet2 or whoever it may be. Thomson has literally just doubled capacity on NCL-NAP... I for one, don't want that compromised

Rome, maybe. I think that could support a LCC as well as LS. Say 2/3 FR to Ciampino

DanAir89 11th Sep 2017 05:35


Originally Posted by jensdad (Post 9888026)
And DA51T, used when they used to spend endless hours driving a 737 or similar round the circuit.
Thinking about the DA89XX, something is telling me they used different numbers for different types? I definitely remember DA79XX and DA99XX being used. Might just have been if they had two or three positioning flights in the air at the same time though.

I think you are right - I went for the one I remembered most but there was definitely DA79. One for each aircraft type could have taken quite a few blocks up! Could one have been from NCL the other to NCL? On the subject of 737's was G-BLDE the best performing 737 hence it being based at NCL (the most northern base) for most of 84-90?

On SKG given the capacity on FAO now probably a decent move. PMI seems to be down to 3 TUI flights so perhaps Ryanair have had an impact on them. SKG was a route that was served from NCL from the 80's until Thomson dropped it a few years ago. There is a quite an impressive Family Life hotel there amongst others so it's probably got much wider appeal than Mykonos. I considerd flying from EMA or MAN in the past couple of years to get there but settled for the geordie staple of Spain! NB Paramount MD83's did SKG in the good old 80's and Dan air may have done it one year........

Border Reiver 11th Sep 2017 06:57

Of Dan Airs 737-200s DE was one of 2 dash 17A powered aircraft which were the most effective to use from a shortish runway in the north of England. Why out of the 2 DE was used in NCL and DF mostly in Berlin I don't know.

Lovely memories, 1st airframe I got 1000 hours in.

GrahamK 11th Sep 2017 08:45

July stats finally out:

Brussels: 2175 +25%
Paris CDG 13295 +12pax
Berlin 3836
Dusseldorf: 4992 +26%
Cork 1140 -40%
Dublin 23649 +21%
Rome 2553 +1%
Amsterdam 33418 +4%
Madrid 3194
Stavanger 1317 +47%
Prague 2481 +1%
Gdansk 3083
Krakow 2574 +1%
Warsaw 2672
Wroclaw 3064
Dubai 22150 +3%


612869 pax in July, up 8%.

Rolling 12 months: 5,137,035. +10.6%

GrahamK 11th Sep 2017 09:24

Jet2 will be using the A330 on some of the EWR flights this year

LiamNCL 11th Sep 2017 17:37


Originally Posted by DanAir89 (Post 9888169)
On SKG given the capacity on FAO now probably a decent move. PMI seems to be down to 3 TUI flights so perhaps Ryanair have had an impact on them.

TCX are also down to around 3 PMI flights next summer


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