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SWBKCB 17th Mar 2015 08:50

Provisional stats:

ALICANTE 9,954 11,027 -9.73
AMSTERDAM 26,657 25,344 5.18
ARRECIFE 5,581 6,144 -9.16
BARCELONA 4,450 4,225 5.33
COPENHAGEN 1,349 1,655 -18.49
CORK 1,065 1,512 -29.56
DUBAI 18,595 16,980 9.51
DUBLIN 15,141 14,025 7.96
DUSSELDORF 2,404 2,491 -3.49
FARO 2,511 3,111 -19.29
FUERTEVENTURA 1,732 1,828 -5.25
GENEVA 7,816 8,130 -3.86
INNSBRUCK 1,370 1,394 -1.72
KRAKOW 1,334 1,274 4.71
LAS PALMAS 2,017 2,959 -31.84
MALAGA 7,604 8,410 -9.58
MALTA 1,991 2,263 -12.02
PARIS (CHARLES DE GAULLE) 10,564 9,008 17.27
PRAGUE 1,330 1,366 -2.64
SALZBURG 1,447 1,466 -1.30
SHARM EL SHEIKH (OPHIRA) 4,629 4,680 -1.09
SOFIA 825 696 18.53
STAVANGER 850 1,446 -41.22
TENERIFE (SURREINA SOFIA) 14,918 16,752 -10.95
TURIN 1,400 1,439 -2.71

A350Saltire 17th Mar 2015 10:51

CabinCrewe

EK at NCL grew 10%, at GLA just 1% - perhaps growth slowing at GLA as a result of QR? Who knows. I wouldn't say QR remains flat though - its not even been operating a year yet so we have nothing to compare it against.

HH6702 17th Mar 2015 15:23

Figures and new york
 
Good set of figures there

Just been looking at the first couple of weeks for our United service.

Seats are starting to fill up with the first 2 weeks now around 40% full which at the start of feb they were around 15-20%

Still have another 8 weeks or so and I'm guessing people who are travelling for business will now be looking to book there flights and hopeful seats at the front end of aircraft!!

Centre cities 17th Mar 2015 16:04

Figures
 
Good set of figures depends on how they are interpreted, load factors and yields. On face value 18 of the listed routes are down.

Centre cities

LiamNCL 17th Mar 2015 19:33


Originally Posted by HH6702 (Post 8905396)
Good set of figures there

Just been looking at the first couple of weeks for our United service.

Seats are starting to fill up with the first 2 weeks now around 40% full which at the start of feb they were around 15-20%

Still have another 8 weeks or so and I'm guessing people who are travelling for business will now be looking to book there flights and hopeful seats at the front end of aircraft!!

In regards to the United EWR service , Wont they have to decide fairly soon ( Not that far into the service) wether they are returning next year ?

HH6702 17th Mar 2015 19:58


Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 8905684)
In regards to the United EWR service , Wont they have to decide fairly soon ( Not that far into the service) wether they are returning next year ?


End of July for the following year to go on sale

LiamNCL 17th Mar 2015 21:29


Originally Posted by HH6702 (Post 8905710)
End of July for the following year to go on sale

i was thinking about it , no route can be established enough in that time , Probably be the same next year summer only

SWBKCB 17th Mar 2015 22:02

United will have a pretty good idea of how they expect a new route to perform.

N707ZS 17th Mar 2015 22:59

Is the £ to $ rate going to effect this flight?

Grahamy 18th Mar 2015 15:56

Is the £ to $ rate going to effect this flight?

Its been pretty steady for the last 2 years at approx $1.50 to a £1 so nothings changed since united announced the route.

Buster the Bear 18th Mar 2015 16:07

$1.70 when I went on Holiday last July!

SWBKCB 18th Mar 2015 17:58

You should know Buster, things are always better in the South! :ok:

GrahamK 20th Mar 2015 07:46

It looks like Thomson have dropped their plans to operate Hurghada in W15/16

SWBKCB 20th Mar 2015 16:17

"Watch out, there's an election about..."
 
Newcastle Airport won't suffer from cuts in Scottish air tax, pledges David Cameron - The Journal

EK77WNCL 21st Mar 2015 13:31

But if he cuts APD to the North East as well then that increases the risk to Manchester, then if Manchester get APD cuts that puts places like EMA and BHX at risk, if they are then to receive APD cuts that puts the precious home counties airports at risk along with places like BRS. Does it not just make more sense to cut APD completely? Or just have a kind of congestion charge-esque APD operation at LHR and maybe LGW?

INeedTheFull90 21st Mar 2015 13:36

Poor (?) Performance
 
Why exactly are so many routes in decline? Is it a capacity chop/frequency chop or are planes just flying with less people. Deeply concerning that ere are significant drops before the impact of the APD chop in Scotland.

EK77WNCL 21st Mar 2015 15:39

That's what I was thinking :/ I mean I suppose in a way it's "good" that it's mainly low cost leisure routes with plenty of operators that are in decline and the more "valuable/fragile" routes like Dubai, Amsterdam, Paris and also city routes with only one operator that seem to be doing allright.

This is why I'm still desperate to see to see the full year statistics because my theory is that people have simply changed their holiday habits, for example the Greek islands had 60-100+% increases for summer 2014 so maybe people have just changed where they go? Corfu, Kefalonia and Zante instead of the Costa del Sol/Balearics and Rhodes, Kos and Crete instead of the Canaries

It is concerning though in a way, I'd like to see the balance when EZY start their new routes this summer

SWBKCB 21st Mar 2015 15:58

Is it as simple as TCX/LS 757's being replaced by 321/738's compared to last winter?

EK77WNCL 21st Mar 2015 16:01

May well be unfortunately... But the way I understood it was that load factors didn't warrant 757's most of the time, hence the 738's/A321's would simply increase load factors since the 757's offered too much capacity? Was that just bull? And NCL is in fact losing out because of the loss in capacity and lack of increase in frequency?

I certainly hope not

NCL-TRC 21st Mar 2015 17:50

The TCX situation is different to that of the LS, TCX are replacing their 757 fleet with A321s, therefore the change to the Airbus at Newcastle was not done because of demand, the 757s we're going out full anyway.


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