APD or not i will never travel from GLA or EDI no matter what prices they offer

Interesting looking at the Qatar Air website yesterday, when you click on their route map there seems to be a purple circle where NCL is.

There is no line showing a route and no other info.Was wondering has this been on their map for a while or new ?


Nigel

Nigel,

oneWorld codeshare via LHR?

Are new combi aircraft legal outside the exemptions such as Northern Canada/Alaska?

Route Development Fund - has this been clarified now? There was some confusion as to who was eligible when first announced.

I believe it is now a lot more difficult to certify a combi than it has been in the past, due to increased regulations regarding fire prevention. As a result, certification is now prohibitively expensive, and therefore a combi is going to be very unlikely in the future.

It'll take a lot of weighing up definitely but if they did an 800NC you then have a 77W thrashing frame, same-ish pax, more cargo and possibly more range (higher MTOW and more attractive too due to less seats than A388 so easier to fill) and then the 900NC would be an "everything" thrashing plane if they made it long enough to carry the same pax as current A380's but with the extra cargo, something like 15 pallets on the main deck. Emirates would lap them up and I'm sure they would become a more attractive aircraft. Extremely idealistic but up against the 77X it will have to be really special, like Dubai-West coast USA with full pax, full cargo year round.

What exactly will this development fund do btw?

SWBKCB

An announcement was made last Thursday following negotiations with the EU to clarify and set the new pax limit for Regional Airports (5m) to qualify for the grants.

Strangely enough the Scottish Parliament has quietly withdrawn its own Route Development Fund.

It means that completely new routes may qualify for a subsidy at the development stage. I presume the regional airport has to make a submission to the Fund to obtain the grant. Examples could be say, Oslo, Stockholm, Zurich. Business routes and routes to attract inward tourism would probably qualify.

It can only be good for the airport and area.

Does this count for any new route? i.e if EZY wanted to base 4 aircraft and open up Munich, Milan etc. Would they qualify? Or is it just aimed at foreign flag carriers on purely business/hub routes?

A380 and belly cargo, I believe one of the biggest mistakes Airbus did with the A380 was not having enough space for belly cargo! Its the bread and butter of airline's these days! Yes NCL receives a lot of cargo from LHR for EK, and as MAN changes to more A380 I guess cargo will come from there as well!

If cargo is so good from NCL and will only increase with more A380s to other UK ports , Would Emirates not rather add a Skycargo flight or just add a 2nd Daily and include whatever passengers they can

Neither cargo capacity or pax loads are full so there is currently no need for either. MAN would likely see Cargo dedicated services before anyone.

Funds
 

I would say it is for the route so it doesn't mean new airline or not so yes Easyjet and 4th based aircraft could help.

As long as they don't give it to Ryanair who after the 3 years will pull the routes.

Hopefully spend it wisely

I'm not confident we'll actually see any new routes come out of the funding, although I really hope we do.

And I think eventually when GLA/BHX/NCL get A380's (wishful thinking) they might put a 77F into EMA, already being a cargo hub etc. And the point has already been made, cargo doesn't care where it flies from.

So long as it provides local jobs then I'm all for it. Don't see why my tax pounds should subsidise some fly by night foreign airline.

I'm sorry but that's ridiculous, these "fly by night foreign airlines" do actually create jobs at the airport, one more new airline probably creates more than 1 new based frame from a loco.

But we would be much better off with no:
Aer Lingus
Air France
Emirates
Germanwings
KLM
SAS
United
Wideroe

Definitely no need for Air Malta, Onur Air and Balkans Holidays flying for tour operators, or Ryanair offering cheap Irish getaways or Air Europa, and Pegasus offering Thomson etc. extra uplift. Not to mention that ridiculous Spanish outfit bringing in cargo every night.

Lest we not forget that TUI are a German multinational company, Thomas Cook were previously majority owned by the Germans and British Airways, our beloved national carrier are also a founding member of a British-Spanish multinational company, registered in Spain and creating jobs in Spain

I apologise again but I reiterate, that is a ridiculous statement! Times have changed!

EK77WNCL

Your at it again aren't you:ugh:

Thomas Cook was and has NEVER been majority owned by British Airways, the Germans yes.

You can be very annoying you know that don't you!

Canberra - I think he meant to insert what is called an 'Oxford Comma' before the 'and'. Read it and pause in different places and you'll see he means what you said.

Namely, '...the Germans, and British Airways...'

If you want to waste ten minutes of your life: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma

Could you expand? I think a based unit would win every time?

I'm only aware of Jet2 (Yorkshire based, though we don't hold that against them...), West Atlantic (British/Swedish) and FedEx (American subcontracted to an Irish airline) - have I missed something?

United
 

Hi

Well i have just been looking at what seats are left on the United flights for the first 6 weeks of operation.

Looks like they have sold so far around 1000 seats which looks like 20% of total seats on sale for that time

You may think this looks bad 20% but when you look at other airports BFS,EDI and even HEATHROW all the plane loads look the same for what has been sold.

upfront the business seats not much sold however i would expect these to be sold nearer the time when businesses know what they want.

Bookings so far will be the leisure pax

so far so good lets hope it keeps growing