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SWBKCB 27th Aug 2013 16:20


LCL has went tech about 7 times, probably more, in the last 2 months.

Well the many times I have been up to the airport this summer TCX maintenance have always appeared to be working on LCL from arriving until leaving, seems like there are a few problems with this aircraft
Any chance of some facts to support these comments?

One fact for you, TCX used SmartLynx last year and are doing so again this year.

JonnyH 27th Aug 2013 17:35

Well I think it's clearly obvious they're using smart lynx this year as LCL is a Smartlynx wet lease!

I really cannot be fussed to dig up the correct dates but from the top of my head and looking back at posts on this thread it seems there's been at least 7 delays.

15th June - Delayed 07:20 IBZ flight by 5 hours. Eventually a relief 752 flew into cover. I know this date because this the date I went on holiday!

MAH - Delayed by around 10 hours in July iirc due to some technical issues.

Reus - This was another 5/6 hour delay. Relief aircraft brought in for the overnight Zakynthos flight. This was this week.

PFO - This was a 23 hour delay. 30th July.

Larnaca - 6 hour delay. In the end YL-LCH came to cover.

Bourgas - Again, struck its wand and stranded passengers in July.

There is a couple of other incidents going back in the thread too. Add these to the couple of tech issues, for DLM, in May I think it's safe to come to the conclusion this aircraft is a heap of rubbish.

BAladdy 27th Aug 2013 22:38

Was wondering if anyone knows if LS encountered many problems with there A320 that they leased from Titan?.

Originally Posted by alex207
Any news about a carrier that could take on the LGW route?.

BM are planning to announce new more new routes over the next few months. I remember a friend who work at BM saying that they had begun looking into how viable it would be for them to take over some of the BE LGW routes. Personally I think that BM's 49 seater ER4's would be the perfect size aircraft for the route.

vectisman 28th Aug 2013 07:10

One of the main reasons Flybe are exiting Gatwick is because of the high fees for smaller regional aircraft. The aircraft in their fleet range from 78 to 118 seats. Therefore I am not sure how BM 49 seat aircraft could be viable flying into Gatwick.

V.

GrahamK 28th Aug 2013 08:03

I notice LS don't have PRG, KRK or ORK for sale for S14 yet. Have these been dropped, or is it just that the NCL base plans have not been finalised? PRG is on sale from other bases.

Jamesair 28th Aug 2013 08:35

The same three destinations were very late being timetabled last year, especially CRK. All three routes seem to have performed reasonably well this year.

JND6198 28th Aug 2013 09:50

LCL
 
Well the fact is that I was there and saw the maintenance teams around LCL from the time it arrived til the time it left about 3 times this summer.
And yes TCX leased from Smart lynx this year, as well as last year, and I flew to Dalaman last year on LCI and there never seemed to be problems with that aircraft like there is this year

Charlie98 28th Aug 2013 22:49

Jet2
 
Going back to what was said earlier about the wild possibility of 2 new Jet2 757s from GLA what is the current plan for when the lease of G-POWI finishes, could that's be swapped out for a 757 and another to add 1 to the base. Just a bit of speculation :p

GrahamK 29th Aug 2013 06:09

GLA has only one 757 based

CentreFix25 29th Aug 2013 06:15

...and It'll be Winter season when POWI goes back so it won't need replacing.

Charlie98 29th Aug 2013 07:29

My bad however what I meant is next summer season, what will be replacing WI or will she be coming back again?

shearer5 2nd Sep 2013 15:36

TCX
 
may I just ask - how come Jet2 have not experienced the same misfortune as TCX with regard to technical problems?

their fleet is much older, is it something to do with maintenance?

thanks

AP1995 2nd Sep 2013 16:53

I don't know about Thomas cook however I do know that all off Jet2's aircraft have recently been through heavy maintenance and you can see it has paid off

OltonPete 2nd Sep 2013 19:11

Jet2
 
shearer5

I think you might have spoke (or written) too soon - Jet2 757 out of Glasgow this afternoon got as far as overhead Germany and did a 180, descended towards East Mids, held and landed safely but closed the East Mids runway forcing one divert to BHX................Thomas Cook A321.

The 321 has made it back to EMA from BHX but delaying the outbound Thomas Cook Bodrum. Not having much luck TCX!

Have to say Jet2 with their extra aircraft have been much better this year.

Pete

Jamesair 3rd Sep 2013 22:34

EMIRATES
 
A news item on the airport website is saying that the Dubai service has had its best August ever with pax numbers up 40% on August 2012, (I calculate it should be over 18,000). A Large increase in freight carriage is also mentioned.

Jamesair 3rd Sep 2013 22:50

EASYJET
 
Easyjet release their April/May and June 2014 flight schedules tomorrow, will there be any surprises?

shearer5 4th Sep 2013 10:00

easyjet NCL-TFS
 
at the moment you can only book TFS till 19th april - do you know if the service runs beyond that into summer from NCL?

thanks

BAladdy 4th Sep 2013 18:37


at the moment you can only book TFS till 19th april - do you know if the service runs beyond that into summer from NCL?

thanks
Schedules now loaded up until mid June for most routes. Below are the routes now on sale for S14 along with there weekly frequency for JUN14.

ALC - 1 x Daily
AMS - 4 x Weekly
BCN - 5 x Weekly
BFS - 16 x Weekly
BRS - 14 x Weekly
FAO - 5 x Weekly
JER - 2 x Weekly
PMI - 1 x Daily
AGP - 1 x Daily
MLA - 2 x Weekly
NCE - 3 x Weekly
TFS - 2 x Weekly (only available to book until 23APR14)

Flights to MAH not available to book fir S14

Jamesair 5th Sep 2013 10:23

TFS was winter only and no sign Easyjet taking over the Gatwick route.

HH6702 6th Sep 2013 10:55

TCX A321 replaces 757 for summer 2014
 
Hey

Just heard that our 2 based 757's are going to gatwick and Newcastle getting 2 brand new 321's

TSR2 6th Sep 2013 11:29


Flights to MAH not available to book fir S14
With 9,912 pax in July and being 9% more than July 2012, I will be surprised if the route was dropped.

JonnyH 6th Sep 2013 12:06

TSR2, I certainly agree, especially after my comments on the Luton thread. It'll be interesting to see.

HH6702, I would be pleasantly surprised if our 752s get replaced by 2 new A321s. I take it the new aircraft you're talking about are the newly delivered ones from Condor. Time will tell.

EDIT: Looking at seating plans on the TCX website it looks like you could be correct.

Charlie98 6th Sep 2013 12:54

From looking at NCL-BJV next summer it still is a 752, by god I hope they don't take those beauties away - hopefully the Jet2 rumour will materialise

LiamNCL 6th Sep 2013 13:19

Didn't TCX say on the announcement of KOS that it would be operated by 757s ?

EDIT : NCL - SSH still a 757 , I would be surprised if we got 2 new A321s ! It's a shame they don't give us a 753 :p

HH6702 6th Sep 2013 13:29

This news was announce to crews at ncl yesterday. I've seen the memo
Also states we are to get 2 of the 4 being delivered by may

Cardiff is to loose its A321 TCX based machine to a leased A321 from another company.

Other airbus aircraft are moving out of gatwick and being replaced by 757 so the same type at each of the bases.

This should also help with delays as the can move the aircraft up if all the same type

Charlie98 6th Sep 2013 13:33

Hopefully we can get a MT A320 next year then instead of a leased in aircraft.

planenut321 6th Sep 2013 13:36

HH do you know which company the CWL A321 is coming from? Can't think of that many airlines with a A321 available for lease...

AirGuru 6th Sep 2013 13:38

Also, are we to retain our TCX crew or is it to be operated by the 'new company' ?

HH6702 6th Sep 2013 14:04

Tcx
 
It was stated in the memo that Cardiff crew would be sent to other bases where type was going.

I'm guessing people at ncl will be offered to move to gatwick to continue flying the 757 or being retrained on the A321

Where do you find out the seat plans for the flights?

I will be seeing one of the pilots tomorrow night so will try and fin out more but he said he will be retrained around Easter time

HH6702 6th Sep 2013 14:06

Summer 2014 TCX
 
It also stated in the memo that next year fleet total will be as follows

31x tcx aircraft
4x leased aircraft for the uk

LiamNCL 6th Sep 2013 17:50

Was hoping we would hold on to the 757s at least anther summer ! Just JET2 75s from next year then

EDIT : will the A321s have sharklets ?

Jamesair 6th Sep 2013 22:11

Ncl regains place in top 10 uk airports
 
In the year to June 2012 Newcastle re-enters the top 10 UK airports at No.10 replacing Liverpool.

This should make the airport more attractive to prospective new operators and for new routes.

CentreFix25 7th Sep 2013 07:46


This should make the airport more attractive to prospective new operators and for new routes.
Do you think it makes a difference to the airlines?


Newcastle getting 2 brand new 321's
How does that affect seat numbers, a little less?

LiamNCL 7th Sep 2013 08:23

215 seats i have seen, a little less than the maximum 220 on the A321 , but dont quote me on it

Jamesair 7th Sep 2013 08:49

Yes I do, even more so if the annual pax figure can reach 5m which is a critical figure to attract new routes.

GrahamK 7th Sep 2013 09:18


Yes I do, even more so if the annual pax figure can reach 5m which is a critical figure to attract new routes.
Ok, but what do you do with the fact that the NE is in the depths of one of the biggest downturns in the economy? Especially when compared to other parts of the country.

Charlie98 7th Sep 2013 09:20

I must say 5 million is way off for us, also we have lost allot of capacity from BY and MT now considering the 757 to 738 drop and now the lesser but still a bit of a dent 757 to A321 what we need is an increase in capacity through new aircraft be it Jet2 or Thomson as these are the routes that get the airport into the 5M figures and then attract further long haul prospects.

CentreFix25 7th Sep 2013 09:47


Yes I do, even more so if the annual pax figure can reach 5m which is a critical figure to attract new routes
Why is it a critical figure, can you explain?

skyman771 7th Sep 2013 10:50

Jamesair

TFS was winter only and no sign Easyjet taking over the Gatwick route.
Unsure what the delay is, but I heard very recently that EZY are to operate NCL-LGW though no idea as to frequency.:ok:

Jamesair 7th Sep 2013 16:00

Graham

The state of the economy is bad in the North East but it is also home to some of the most successful companies in the UK. Sage and Nissan to name a couple. As the economy improves so will employment in the large and smaller companies that exist in the area. Although the size of public sector employment in the area continues to be a problem as cutbacks continue.

Centrefix

The 5m figure places the airport in a different category as does the top 10 rating, which raises the airports profile.

Skyman

That would indeed be good news, I hope we get confirmation soon for a smooth transition from Flybe, otherwise thats another 7K + loss of monthly pax.


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