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Skipness One Echo 9th Oct 2008 18:07

4567 even with ETOPs more often than not the B757 will need to refuel in Bangor. Only with occasionally favourable winds and a light load will the direct flight to Florida be filed.

GSM SCOT 9th Oct 2008 19:00

ETOPS
 
Already got 180 min ETOPS on the 757, same as the 767

Porrohman 9th Oct 2008 19:38

Skipness said;

4567 even with ETOPs more often than not the B757 will need to refuel in Bangor. Only with occasionally favourable winds and a light load will the direct flight to Florida be filed.
Out of interest, has a 757 ever managed Glasgow - Orlando without a fuel stop and if so, how light was the load?

Skipness One Echo 9th Oct 2008 23:24

Air 2000 used to occasionally do GLA-MCO direct in the 1990s when they flew to Orlando. The return flight often operated direct due to more favourable winds.

Pontious 10th Oct 2008 00:06

Porrohman

Yes. I did one. I think the load was about 50-60 pax outbound from GLA-SFB but we were full back (180 pax/ 2 class config.) & made it both ways non-stop with no problems.

I flew a few B757 Trans Atlantic trips with AMM/FCA & while virtually all westbound flights tech stopped in Bangor, Maine, you needed a certain set of criteria to enable a non-stop return sector. At the pre flight planning stage in MCO/SFB as a rule of thumb you needed a ZFM of around 78 Tonnes & a 25kt tailwind component.

GSM's 757 even when full is around 75 Tonnes ZFM so needs a lower tailwind component in order to make the eastbound sector non-stop.

It's a remarkably versatile machine that a B738 or-9 could never match.
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OliWW 10th Oct 2008 08:49

I always thought there plan was to keep one of the B763, so that the B752 went and did the routes from BHX. Also the last B736 is leaving in October. So the only aircrafts not being used are 2x B733 and 1x B738

Pontious 10th Oct 2008 09:09

Yes, Oli',

I think 'OD will be GLA based operating the SFB (1x weekly away Mon-Weds) with the rest of the week covering 'PT in the eventuality of it having to go to the hangar for a scheduled check or any general 'techness'.

'OD should be coming back from Air Callin at the end of November straight into a re-fit and/or sched'd maintenance, then as above.

'PT is operating the MPA run until 'FG is released after it's heavy check, then heads away somewhere.

I hope this helps.
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LGS6753 10th Oct 2008 16:37

Rumour Control - Luton is talking about services from LTN to Canada in summer 09. Is this a new GSM flight to YHM?

Centre cities 10th Oct 2008 21:07

Amritsar
 
Must say i am really suprised that BHX - Amritsar is bookable on the airline web site.

Would have thought it would have been travel agents on a charter.


Centre cities

4567 10th Oct 2008 22:25

I know i thought it was just on behalf of a tour operator not being bookble on there website.

airhumberside 11th Oct 2008 15:22

Well hopefully GSM have got links with Indian community travel agents for the majority of sales and they are selling seats themselves as a secondary distribution channel. But without links to the Indian community cant see the route working with no brand awareness at either end of the route

iflycwl 12th Oct 2008 16:02

Cardiff
 
With GSM announcing their new CWL-YHM flights, I assume at BRS loss, would GSM ever consider a CWL-SFB route for Summer 2009 - with the loss of XL Airways and Monarch for Summer 2009 there is an obvious market from South Wales.

luvly jubbly 12th Oct 2008 16:53

GSM have introduced a different Airport for YHM each year. As load factors are high, it would seem that the route goes to the airport offering the greatest incentive. Maybe CWL needed a Zoom replacement???

From previous years experience, I wouldn't be surprised if this to be the only route for CWL this year, and maybe the only year it is operated!

timboab 14th Oct 2008 20:29

What are the AEU/ATQ flights and whats went wrong with them Gaz?

4567 14th Oct 2008 20:42

I see KT'S parked up on a remote stand at GLA anybody know whats happening with it?

What are the AEU/ATQ and whats the problem?

airhumberside 14th Oct 2008 21:14

I think GLAGAZ is refering to the BHX-ATQ flights which have been removed from sale on the GSM website

Hamrah 14th Oct 2008 23:08

...and will now be operated by AEU.

GSM SCOT 15th Oct 2008 12:01

KY
 
Nothing wrong with the 737/600. Would be on a remote stand if not being used. This aircraft operates the GLA - BCN - EDI - BCN - GLA.

jethro15 15th Oct 2008 12:15

Bhx / Atq
 

Hamrah

...and will now be operated by AEU.
Commencing when?

luvly jubbly 15th Oct 2008 15:05

I thought Astraeus were operating that route for us anyway??!!


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