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goldeneye 4th Feb 2009 17:43

It looks very much like FR & EZY watched GSM to see what routes would be a sucess from EDI & GLA then started there own flights.
Currently
FR to CIA, ALC, AGP & PMI from EDI.
EZY to NCE, ALC & PMI from EDI and FAO, ALC, AGP, PMI, IBZ from GLA.

And not to mention Jet2 to MAH & PRG from Edinburgh.

4567 4th Feb 2009 20:06

Yes the competition has really stepped up since the times of 2002 when TD first saw that gap in the market.

GSM are really going to have to step up there game with low-fares, good service and hope that because they are well know in Scotland it will carry them through along with the long-haul. Its the EDI base taking the hardest hits with EZY, FR & even Jet2 pushing there way in.

This could be the time were they strengthen their GLA base maybe?

Either that or hit back hard at EDI, though i doubt GSM could mount a big enough threat unless they ploughed more short haul a/c into both EDI & GLA!

Bartek 4th Feb 2009 20:13

With EZY and FR increasingly stepping on GSM's toes at EDI I would suggest it's time for GSM to shift from the likes of ALC, PMI etc and offer the kind of destinations from EDI that the other budget carriers, and indeed the charter airlines, do not serve e.g. Turkey, Greece, Morocco. GSM should look more to the 'medium haul' market from EDI with destinations like Athens, Heraklion, Izmir, Marrakesh etc. And yes, dare I say it, they should consider EDI-SFB too (that market is wide open).

dublindispatch 4th Feb 2009 22:39

dub-yhm etc etc
 
Any idea how the Dub YVR will run this year it looks like it is in from YVR via calgary and out afgain same route!! Mega delays again this year then!!

No doubt doing EDI-YVR-DUB-YVR-EDI or sum route like that, not knocking them fantastic crew to work with every one off them

Richard Taylor 8th Feb 2009 08:16

ABZ
 
Yet more cutbacks I read.

ABZ is no different in suffering from the credit crunch of course, but is the time approaching that GSM may decide to cut the ABZ base, at least until things get better again - in, say, 10yrs time??? ;)

scotsunflyer 8th Feb 2009 09:25


Any idea how the Dub YVR will run this year it looks like it is in from YVR via calgary and out afgain same route!!
Aircraft positions in from GLA, then DUB-YYC-YVR-YYC-DUB then positions to GLA

goldeneye 8th Feb 2009 18:18

With the 757's going i guess the EDI-YHM is on a 767. I can see it goes via DUB.

scotsunflyer 8th Feb 2009 23:58

All flights across the pond booked 767

4567 9th Feb 2009 16:48

Do you think GSM are planning to keep a 763 for W09 seen as how theres a chance the 752 is going?
Either that or its a 738 to SFB or no Long-haul W09?

pinkpyjama 9th Feb 2009 19:49

MOD Al-Udeid
 
This contract runs until May I think it is. What's the chances of it being extended beyond this or any other MOD work for the 767 lined up?

DAVYDAY 11th Feb 2009 11:32

using Jet2 aircraft
 
I hear that Jet2 are covering the MOD flights?
Why not just hand it on a plate.

ABZ to go if numbers dont get up,yip PIK does look good.
getting squeezed in EDI by Ryanair,Easy and Jet2.oh dear.
selling more aircraft?:ugh:

webby1919 11th Feb 2009 12:58

MOD work is carried out with our own B763s, however LS do have some MOD work of their own. Our contract is for 4 years with 1 B763 and to end of May 09 for the other B763. Probably extended once the 4th B763 arrived this month.

Further ACMIs over remainder of W08 going ahead.

ABZ is a strong Summer base, but not enough pax to justify winter base - yet!

Summer 09 sales ahead of plan, and profits up with substantial profit increase planned for this financial year.

We're getting rid of the old A/C, B733s and B736s, poss B752, good riddance I say. Best to focus on more reliable A/C, B738 and B73G.

As we now 100% own Alba, winning the Flybe contract for GLA is a major boost. Probably EDI handling will follow.

All in all, I'd say we are in a good position, and we're still flying!! Long may it continue.

Flightrider 11th Feb 2009 21:23


Best to focus on more reliable A/C
Heaven help you with the "new" 767 joining the fleet then. It would not be my first choice of aircraft.

chickenstrips 12th Feb 2009 16:34


Heaven help you with the "new" 767 joining the fleet then. It would not be my first choice of aircraft.
What a great post!!

So, tell us - what could we introduce to the fleet that would give the same flexibility, ease of integration and availability as the 76?


I'm going to love this response!!

Bite-Test-Satis 12th Feb 2009 18:26

FGSN Maintenance
 
I heard a rumour that 'In A Tea Cup' had lost the FlyGlobeSpan maintenance contract!!! - So, who got it? And does that cover the MOD contract at BZZ?

4567 12th Feb 2009 19:59

When dou you think GSM will start releasing the W09 schedule, think we will se any expansion to more mid-haul?

Flightrider 12th Feb 2009 20:12


what could we introduce to the fleet that would give the same flexibility, ease of integration and availability as the 76
A different 767-300ER to the one you're getting. The one which is coming has so many differences to the three ex-Air New Zealand aircraft that it will inevitably make life difficult for a whole variety of reasons as it will be an oddball within the fleet. Where shall I start - is the different door config, extra crew training, lower take-off weight, less powerful engines, various oddities on the flightdeck with avionics kit enough to be going on with?

Tell you what - wait until it's been in service for a month or two and let's revisit this discussion. Trust me - this is not an anorak posting about aircraft in general, it's very specific to the 767 in question. I spent more hours in a hangar trying to sort that thing out than I care to remember.

chickenstrips 12th Feb 2009 21:21

Fair points Flightrider.

However, I’m sure there’s a reason why we’re getting that specific airframe. Furthermore, I can’t really see what major differences there are that the crew could not cope with!

The 75/76 bods have been operating both types and the 73 fleet had, until last few weeks, been operating four variants – The 733’s and 736’s being completely different from the 73G/8, which are themselves all slightly different. Not all that big a deal.

I guess through time, the crews will learn the differences and accept them. Zoom seemed to look after their aircraft fairly well, so at least it’s not going to be a complete lemon! Lets hope so!

matkat 13th Feb 2009 07:18

Chicken, if you read flightriders post/s what he saying in reality that this particular A/C is a dog these things happen its just like a car some never go wrong but other of the same type and make do, an easy example for someone at FGS to compare is the B757 from Icelandair that caused so many problems with the S07 program, I suspect the only reason FGS are taking this particular A/C is cost and availability.

dionysius 13th Feb 2009 10:34

Cannot see MOD contract to Al Udeid lasting much past May 09 as Basra pullout due to be completed by June.:rolleyes:


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