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StoneyBridge Radar 12th Sep 2008 21:35


point5

Apparently DLH to announce take over of bmi today
Let's hope your vectoring is more accurate than your rumour-mongering :cool:

a**e

br8fmr 14th Sep 2008 07:28

Gulf carrier Etihad circles BMI

Senior sources in the Gulf say Etihad, the national carrier of the United Arab Emirates, has approached both BMI and Lufthansa, the German airline that holds a stake in BMI

heli_port 14th Sep 2008 09:10

Gulf carrier Etihad circles BMI
 

AN airline backed by the royal family of Abu Dhabi, the Gulf state that recently bought Manchester City football club, has held initial discussions about a merger with BMI British Midland in a deal that could value the airline at up to £600m.
Gulf carrier Etihad circles BMI - Times Online

:ok:

SinBin 14th Sep 2008 09:16

Good old fashioned press speculation methinks. Maybe they want to join Star Alliance!

Jet Fuel Addict 14th Sep 2008 09:30

Maybe not such a bad thing as long as Sir MB keeps his promise of any take over being in the interrest of bmi staff first.

Mr Flaps 14th Sep 2008 10:40

Shall we just make a list of ever major world airline. Then at least one will be right when the time comes. I do laugh when I see that another airline has gone public to say that they want bmi.

Well so far LH, BA, VS, now Etihad. Oh and DHL. Anyone else got any more then can add.

brian_dromey 14th Sep 2008 12:10

EI were, apparently, looking at acquiring BD if open Skies did not go through.

Carnage Matey! 14th Sep 2008 12:15

Lufthansa have first dibs on bmi anyway.

Little Blue 14th Sep 2008 12:37

Lets have Eastern Airways putting in a bid....or, maybe, Palmair fancy throwing their hat into the ring....:ugh:

lexxity 14th Sep 2008 12:37

I hardly think EI are in any position for takeovers right now.

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/3...t-how-bad.html

airvanman 14th Sep 2008 13:14

...and call it Manchester City Airways! That would p*ss on United's fireworks!;)

Gary Lager 14th Sep 2008 14:19

bmi keeping promises? bmi doing anything that puts staff interests first? This I have to see...

clipstone1 14th Sep 2008 15:04

remembering that Etihad would have to ensure bmi has at least a 51% EU shareolding of course otherwise they are in trouble! so a partical merger and leaving LH with some of the shares would work....and mean Etihad might join star alliance...

andrewmcharlton 14th Sep 2008 16:10

oh look, fancy that, you've posted yet another slant on the same story today, is that four or five times so far?

Why not just add it to the thread for the respective airline instead of more verbiage.

Dash-7 lover 15th Sep 2008 18:50

Etihad could by SAS's share as they want shot of it!

Dash-7 lover 15th Sep 2008 18:53

If SAS want shot of their BMI stake then anything could be up for grabs - maybe Etihad are interested???

OliWW 15th Sep 2008 19:48

In our local evening telegraph I read that a "Middle Eastern Airline" is looking at buying a share of bmi"

EY most likely!!

Danny_R 15th Sep 2008 22:50

http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...rcles-bmi.html

Topic about it running there

EGAC is Better 19th Sep 2008 12:56

Guys,

I am a pretty regular traveller so my obervations below are based on personal experience and ACARS logs.

My question to anyone who may be in the know is, does BMI have any sort of consistant fleet utilisation policy on the route LHR/BHD?

I ask because both last Friday and yesterday when travelling on the BD96 the aircraft (A319's CJ & CH) were all one class seating with no cabin divide or jacket hanging space for business passengers.

At the same time A320's DO, DY and DT were at Heathrow and were used on other domestic routes. Yesterday evening DY went to ABZ and DO/DT/DY are regulars on the Manchester run. ABZ and MAN are all economy services whereas BHD as sold as 2 class. I therefore wonder why BMI can find it acceptible to send Mid-haul config aircraft (with 49" business seats) on single class internal flights when at the same time 2 class internal flights are being served with single class aircraft. Belfast business class customers are getting a raw deal from BMI.

If they don't stop with this nonsense I can see a lot more of their customers moving to the green machine, especially if they are able to introduce an early morning flight.

Steve

LGWcrew 19th Sep 2008 14:46

Because bmi are only interested in operating the short haul flights to keep the slots. They are not worried about loosing passengers as they dont really make money on short haul. All that matters is that it all looks good on paper.

keepitlit 19th Sep 2008 16:00

Firstly CrewLGW,
Obviously not bmi crew, maybe an X employee!!

EGAC is Better, to answer your question in one No, but please let me explain, As with most operations there is a plan but sometimes when things go pear shaped aircraft get out of program ( its either tech issues or delays throghout the day) and back-up aircraft is called out to keep the show on the road and on time. The 144 config hopefully wont be round for too much longer as it dosnt fit the two class business model.
I sorry you got one of 144's as a business pax its not palnned that way, Ive operated MIDO on the BHD/LHR( you wanna see those seats!) again this was due to an aircraft delays, Im not defending what happened but Im sure you would be rather be as close to on time rather than have the delayed bigger seat which is what we try to do.

Oh and they do care about domestic routes as they will feed the Longhaul



Hope this helps

Regards

Keepitlit

P.S. Isnt "the green machine" one class?

Keepitlit

EGAC is Better 19th Sep 2008 16:58

Thank you for the response Keepitlit.

I have flown in MIDO from LHR to BHD and those seats are one of the reasons that prompted the question :ok:. I kinda figured that it was operational reasons more than anything else but recently there has been a bit of a pattern to the ops of the Mid-haul fleet within the UK which was the second reason for the question.

If truth be told after a weeks work, I am just grateful for a seat and an on time flight, a massive leather seat with expansive legroom would be a pleasent surprise.

What is to happen to the 144 config aircraft? Will they be converted to interchangeable configs like the older short haul A319's and A320's? The seats on CH and CJ were actually only bettered for comfort by those on MIDO which is ironic.

Aer Lingus do operate only economy but essentially on my last 2 flights so have BMI. I have yet to fly Aer Lingus but I have heard very positive reports about them and surely it is something BMI need to worry about. In that regard a better business class product may just help retain those loyal business flyers who perhaps live closer to Aldergrove than City but put in the extra miles for a Business Class service. I am equal distance from both.

I did wonder about LGWCrew's comment. BMI are bigger than just a domestic airline and surely rely on feeder traffic to Long/Mid and other short haul european destinations to keep them going.

Cheers
Steve

inglebyboro 8th Oct 2008 20:05

BD 333 - Fri 10 Oct
 
Evening

Can anybode advise if BD 333 (MME-LHR) is operating on Fri?

I am booked on the flight, and was hoping to book Mrs IB on the same flight, but on the BMI website, only 331 & 339 are listed for Fri.

Is the flight fully booked, or has it been pulled?

Cheers
IB

SinBin 8th Oct 2008 22:41

Why don't you be proactive and call customer services, I doubt PPRuNe is the place to ask!! This thread is about bmi as a company and not your wife's travel plans...:rolleyes:

inglebyboro 9th Oct 2008 06:40

After being told a pack of lies by GSM customer service staff in the past about a flight being fully booked (that I was booked onto), when it had actually been cancelled a few days in advance, I try to avoid phoning the said department.

I thought some nice friendly bod from BMI why might be able to answer the question could help, instead of some tosser coming out with sarcastic comments.

BMI "as a company" are scheduled to operate BD 333 from MME - LHR tomorrow, and I am trying to find out if the flight will operate. If the flight is fully booked, then fair enough, but I AM booked onto this flight, and I am now concerned about MY travel plans, not my wife's.

Sorry for the rant, but I have 2 connecting flights after the BMI leg, and BD 339 will not get me to LHR in time for the 2nd flight.

mutualswap 9th Oct 2008 07:39

BD333 will operate
capacity of a/c is 49 seats 49 booked

rgds ms;)

inglebyboro 9th Oct 2008 07:41

MS

Many thanks, really appreciate the info.
I was worried for a bit.

Cheers again
IB

SinBin 9th Oct 2008 11:33

Firstly, I'm not a 'tosser', secondly my comments weren't sarcastic. GSM is not bmi so why would they be the same?

inglebyboro 9th Oct 2008 14:21

ok, you believe

SinBin 9th Oct 2008 16:24

? Back on thread then. Anyone Know anything about the Etihad thing?

Ametyst1 9th Oct 2008 17:15

BMI are dropping services from Heathrow to both Ankara and Ekaterinberg.

SinBin 9th Oct 2008 18:16

Yeilds low, twice daily though to Moscow from the end of the month and daily direct to Damascus

Saxon Ops 10th Oct 2008 17:08

http://www.travelmole.com/stories/11...hp?news_cat=11

Paddy Power will be dramtically cutting bmi odds for the "the next airline to fail".

Get your bets in quick!

DTVAirport 10th Oct 2008 19:55

I think the link is broken? I'm not getting anything about BD, just a page asking me to login or register?

bmi expat 10th Oct 2008 21:18


Paddy Power will be dramtically cutting bmi odds for the "the next airline to fail".

Get your bets in quick!
What makes you think that the info in the article means that bmi will more likely be the next airline to fall????

1033 10th Oct 2008 22:26

I think the reference may be due to their backgrounds. One of them may have trouble getting references for their airside passes from previous employers. ;)

adz1616 10th Oct 2008 22:38

Once again we have idiots on here making allegations with no solid backup.

I suggest they spread their rumours elsewhere as they are not wanted here

jerboy 10th Oct 2008 23:05


I suggest they spread their rumours elsewhere
Is this not a rumour network? hmmm...

bmi are hugely unlikely to go bankrupt, which is what I think the paddypower odds are. They have way too much money stored in the LHR slots, and more likely than not will be taken over. However people have been saying BD are going to be bought out for years... have any of them been right?

I'm guessing we'll see the bmi colours around for sometime yet; at least until the Bish retires.

TartinTon 11th Oct 2008 08:24

Surely the BMI colours will only be around for another 18months - 2 years tops, as either SMB uses his option to sell to LH or LH use their option to buy BD (as they previously stated was their intention last year)?

keepitlit 11th Oct 2008 12:54

He has to call is option by the end of the year.
Word on the street is Lufty are buying anyone where they could set up a hub.
Swiss, SN bru ,Sas scandi, bmi LHR, AI Milan.

Its going to be one massive outfit

Interesting times ahead

Regards

Keepitlit


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