Maybe with 1 Billion in one bank, virgin (source RB) are just about to make a bank transfer to MB ?

:} Virgin? Don't think so!!!

I always though bad news came from corporates on a Friday.

That way the managers can run and hide over the weekend whilst the workers face the flak!

After a few weekend G @ T's they can come back with a whole new raft of shiny excuses!

Good news on Wednesdays means they can gloat and calculate their bonuses before the Saturday round of Golf.

Maybe, just maybe. :ugh:


Anyways, most likely to be 'nasty' quarterly figures and a projection for the future.

My wife thinks washing sheets on Friday brings bad luck! :eek::eek::eek:

Don't forget that what may be in the bank will not be available to spend - you have to be aware of their liabilities too!

Don't forget a lot of that money in the bank comes from prepaid tickets!

An "Insider" tells me that all the unions have been called in to a meeting at the hall on Friday after which an announcement will be made to the press, if this involves all employee groups it may be something more significant than just moving the 330s to Heathrow :eek: Hopefully it will have a positive spin !

Job losses.

You know thats the case when the unions are brought in.

The mega-merger to create "b-mi easyVirgin" - an airline long on salacious talk, but short on action.

Trust me as an ex BA Connect/Citiexpress employee - bad news is always on a Friday so everyone can panic over the weekend!!

it was never all unions!
 

I don't know who your "insider" is, but it was never all unions summoned to the meeting at Donington Hall - only unions connected with Manchester.

You can all draw your own conclusions from that, but you don't have to be a rocket scientist to work out that it was bad news!:{

It's a very lean company anyway, so job losses will be minimal. Operationally the slots have to be flown out of LHR, and they have to get rid of the 757s and Embraers before redundancies in operational circles would occur from the mainline fleet. So I'm told.

So that's this coming Friday...?

...and that sounds like a reference to a Friday past...?

Are you both on the same hymn sheet, or am I misinterpreting something? :confused:

I've told you what it is now stop with the speculation!

Yawn.yawn. here we go again.:(

I have heard that union meeting has beeen canx. but theres still some announcement re man on fri
:sad:

Oh selling bmi again, now lets see. Who have bmi been sold to in the last few yrs, BA, Virgin, LH, Etihad and the latest is the sell off of ground handling to Menzies. Thats the latest one rolling around LHR at the mo.
Oh i think FedEx might have been in the mix to and some point.
Getting a little sick and tired of so called earth shattering news that never happens.
So time to get back to the coal face and carry on.

Oh selling bmi again, now lets see. Who have bmi been sold to in the last few yrs, BA, Virgin, LH, Etihad and the latest is the sell off of ground handling to Menzies. Thats the latest one rolling around LHR at the mo.
Oh i think FedEx might have been in the mix to and some point.
Getting a little sick and tired of so called earth shattering news that never happens. Bit like being promised a cut in petrol tax never happens. All spin and no balls.
So time to get back to the coal face and carry on.

Oh i do like this rumour network:ugh:
So meeting now cxxld and still noone knows what is to happen except everyone who thinks they know!!!!
In the meanwhile lets just be thankful we still have jobs unlike lots of our other colleagues who have been laid off recently:(

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
 

At least it keeps Globespam off page 1

??????????????

Major news to be announced tomorrow!

Logonair are interested in buying bmi and want to operate an A330 between Papa Westray and Orkney 8 times a day

A330 from Papa Westray
 

If the Japanese want (or maybe wanted) to fly a 747 on domestic routes in Japan, who's to say that an A330 one can't fly an A330 on domestic routes in the UK ? Tokyo or Papa Westray - they're both airports, right ? :}

The LCCs found that if you gave the market enough of a stimulation, demand would appear. Maybe Loganair have decided to follow this approach ? ;)

But only if you book online. BOOM BOOM.
I'll get me coat....

This is the most interesting speculation for ages on here, however, the last big announcement that got me interested was the 'big' meeting that a certain poster raved about at Easyjet in easyland and it was nothing at all!

Is there an bmibaby implication re Manchester, apparently bmiregional is doing well compared to the other divisions so one would wonder if it related to Manchester maybe news on WW outfit?

presumably bmibaby can't be sold - only put up for adoption?

:D

BBc news quote ;

"Some of Europe's biggest airlines fared slightly better. British Airways saw traffic fall by 5.1%, while Germany's Lufthansa saw its increase by 4.2%.

By far the best performing airline was the UK-based BMI, which saw traffic increase by 22.8%. " !!!!!:rolleyes:

can someone tell me where they got the bmi figure from....?

If the yeilds are low for the MAN trans atlantic long haul operation, then it makes sense to get out of there and get into a higher yeild operation. Kuwait City and Lahore have been banded around for a few months, there's a huge potential market for Pakistan. IKA needs to be on a 330 too. An A321 is not suitable for that route, certainly not when I've done it. Apparently MB is has put in place a 10 year plan for bmi, at the last senior management conference whatever this means.

Just as a side note, Fares on the MAN-ORD in economy have gone to over £1000 one way. Thats an indication the route is going to be canned, it puts people off booking it whilst not actually stating 'the route is pulled'

Might give an indication of the news

Fares are still around £400 for ORD just checked random dates.

There are lots of people on this thread with location LONDON, who are willing the MAN base to close, thanks for that.:=

No doubt most of these people wont stick around for long even if LHR gets the A/C.

Just remember without MAN there would be no BMI longhaul!!!!!

There are lots of peoples jobs at stake, REMEMBER THAT.:mad:

"BBc news quote ;

"Some of Europe's biggest airlines fared slightly better. British Airways saw traffic fall by 5.1%, while Germany's Lufthansa saw its increase by 4.2%.

By far the best performing airline was the UK-based BMI, which saw traffic increase by 22.8%. " !!!!!:rolleyes:

can someone tell me where they got the bmi figure from....? "

BBC is right but have quoted pax figures which are up due to adding BMED, what they doidn't say is that September LF is down 6%
Look here

How is your Arabic?

Fares are still around £400 for ORD just checked random dates.

There are lots of people on this thread with location LONDON, who are willing the MAN base to close, thanks for that.:=

No doubt most of these people wont stick around for long even if LHR gets the A/C.

Just remember without MAN there would be no BMI longhaul!!!!!

There are lots of peoples jobs at stake, REMEMBER THAT.


My profile may say london but I now live in manchester and am an avid supporter for its expansion of services.

Please do not assume I want the base to close, far from it. I actually wish bmi would see they are onto a good thing at manchester and hope that they dont re-locate the A330's to Heathrow

:confused:

Thats fine virgin_cc_wannabe however there are alot of people within the compant that want and have always wanted MAN to fail.

There are some very senior and loyal people at MAN who will be tossed away without a second glance if and when this happens.:(

Exactly. 6 months ago comments in the press and magazines suggesting they would be going daily (or more) to all 3 destinations. For people living in Jeddah it's a downgrade and in reality there are no improvements or extra flights to Saudi.

Just means the a/c get a bit more use rather than sitting on the ground in Jeddah for 5 hours (that's enough to fit in the extra legs).

Most people here have already figured that with a stop in RUH it makes sense to go via Dubai where EK has much better connections to UK (my UK home is about 30 mins from Gatwick).

As a business they have no choice but to go where they can make the most money out of the assets they have. To suggest otherwise is naivety in the extreme. Manchester only got the A330s at the last minute when Plan A to fly them from LHR was blocked.
It's not about loyalty, it's about survival. Harsh, cold, uncomfortable, but unavoidable alas.

I guess with oil at its (much) lower price, then MAN long haul becomes profitable again, just a shame they killed most of babys new routes in the "we're all doomed" mode a month or so ago. Still Ryanair will pick up the routes that baby leave PRG,WAW,MAD, LIS to name a few.

Perhaps it always was, I think the real harsh truth is that flying rich Saudis is more proitable than loyal Mancs.

Inkjet
 

...errr, bmibaby have not dropped PRG, never flew to WAW from MAN and MAD and LIS were only ever going to be Summer routes, that is why they are back on sale for end of March next year. bmibaby have not been in a "we're all doomed" mode at all, neither have bmi????

bmi management lost any interest in Man longhaul a long time ago!:ugh:

Manchester has a large catchment area of people who just don't want to fly out of LHR & all the hassle that goes with it. The long haul flights out of Manchester are busy most of the time - If bmi can get bums on seats ...... & they can! - maybe the simple answer was that they were not charging enough!!

Unfortunately, although the "BIG" announcement was cancelled for tomorrow, I'm sure it will be made sooner or later & the result will be the same .............. The end of long haul out of Man & the loss of a lot of jobs. Very sad.:(

Frankie it's pprune answer 1-01.
Tis not about load factor, it's about yield up front. The aircraft will yield more carting people round LHR mid haul than MAN long haul. Shame it's almost been announced in the same week MAN lose BA long haul too. That's a clue.