Dash 8-Q400
 

BBC News 24 have just reported 6 Dash 8 have been grounded for checks due to the problems SAS aircraft have encounted.


STATSMAN

Yep has the delays and cancellations on their website, for anybody who is concerned or maybe flying later today

It's just been on the 1 o'clock news about it and the VT was of a WOW Dash...... Nice one BBC

yeh i saw that LOL. Flybe say there are only minor delays now:ok: (well no more than usuall)

Flymaybe
 

ADC and Cider get your heads out of the hangar and look at this wikepdia thread under canx for "FLYMAYBE" ref then you might begin to stop believing your own propoganda and understand why BMI are creaming you at MAN. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flybe

ADC2604 - We could argue until the cows come home but this would be pointless as neither of us will see eye to eye on the matter. You say:

"In my opinion which I am sure is shared by many others, worthless or pointless comments are those given where there hasn't actually been any experience."

I say you seem to be missing a point-I have experienced thier delays and poor customer service-just not as a passenger. How does that make a difference?
You say:

"With regards to punctuality - the numbers I work with include delays and cancellations."

And I say that makes sense! It's your job to polish a turd and of coarse you have to believe your own hype-thats what pays your wages. But believe me, when you leave BE and look back, you will see that myself, one of your own pilots on here and alot of other people were infact merely pointing out a truth.
I have no qualms with BE withdrawing the Q400's. That is what any responsible company should have done and I doubt you will hear anyone say otherwise on here, however, you say:

"Subs were drafted in as soon as possible and a stirling job in my professional opinion so well done BE management :D "

I say: Someone pass me a bucket........

An important point:

ADC2604 said

The handling agents at the airports are the face of Flybe AT the airport. If they spout rubbish, then that is percieved as Flybe spouting rubbish. Not a good look for the pax.

At the end of the day, handling agents can only go by what they've been told, which is an estimated time of arrival for whatever reason.

Don't be think it would be appreciated if said the truth as today "sorry your flight is going to be 2 hours delayed today as the captain is arguing with the engineer in BHD as the captain says the plane is broke but the engineer says it's ok, but the captain won't fly the plane".

And i must say that flybe flights from CWL must be around the 50% delayed mark. some of which are due to the transit pax from CDG travelling to BHD having to get off, clear immigration and security and go back on the same a/c all within 25 mins (yeah whatever) mind they were oh so considerate and given us 30 mins for the winter.

Lots more cancellations today dispite what Flybe said Yesterday, mostly from EXT and NWI

From today's Southampton Echo

http://www.thisishampshire.net/news/..._to_normal.php

"AIR passengers travelling on Flybe flights should not experience any delays or cancellations today following the grounding of six of the airline's aircraft"

From Southampton Arrivals on Ceefax

0750 Guernsey BE616 Delayed
0755 Jersey BE228 Cancelled
0830 Glasgow BE883 Delayed
0935 Manchester BE7362 Delayed
0945 Leeds B/Ford BE172 Cancelled
1045 Jersey BE232 Cancelled
1045 Glasgow BE881 Delayed

Presumably The Echo has had a press release from Flybe that's a little economical with the truth!

Le Tirer

Fog at Gatwick. Any fog around Southampton?

TUTH

TUTH

I thought of that possibility just after I'd posted! But looking at the weather for the airfields concerned it seems unlikely this is the cause of the delays/cancellations unless there is a knock-on effect from fog elsewhere.

Southampton 9000m
Jersey CAVOK
Guernsey 10Km+
Leeds 6000m Fog in vicinity
Manchester 3200m Mist
Glasgow 10Km+

Wouldn't be so sure about BMI (Baby) being any more punctual than BE...

I have a friend over from Belfast at the moment, and his BMI Baby flight on Tuesday night (Belfast to Birmingham) was delayed by over two hours. No explanation given.

He is 6ft 3in tall, and the a/c was only 50% (estimate) full. He asked that given the delay, the time of day (midnight) he could move to a seat in the first row for some leg space. "Yes sir... of course you can. Thats £15 please."

Now that is brilliant BMI customer service. Keep you waiting for several hours then charge you to use an otherwise unoccupied seat. Not impressed.

I pointed out that BE had always been good to me - he is now flying back with them and will not fly BMI Baby again.

I know this may be an exception, etc etc; please don't bite my head off, just reporting a particular incident in which BE and BMI were involved!

I have to admit that BmiBaby are far from perfect and they do suffer from a lot of delays.

At CWL there has been an a/c 3 weeks in a row that has gone tech abroad. They then send an a/c down from EMA to operate the flights for CWL (obviously that going to cause delays up in EMA unless they get an a/c from BHX as well which means in totaL 3 bases have got major delays).

The main problem is that how many a/c has BE got compared to WW? And going by reports, how many have they got sat on the ground in various bases? Surely there shouln't be excuses for all theese delays and cancellations (in exception for today and yesterday) as there should be enough aircraft to replace tech, unless it goes down to the old favourite crewing problems.

Le Tirer,

looks like a completely normal day :rolleyes:

Yep, certainly does! An EMB195 has just diverted to BOH from SOU with a brake problem.

LT

The reason the 195 is wonderful and so eco friendly aircraft is cos its nearly always tucked up in a nice warm Hangar :}

ADC can I borrow your sunnies you know the ones with the rose tint?

See FlyBe's website are showing more cancelations through to and including Monday 17th. Does this mean the checks now extend to the whole fleet, or has something been found which needs rectification or parts (which presumably are in short supply)?

HAC
Yes :rolleyes:

HAC - basically Bombardier asked that 16 of BE D8-400s be grounded for checks.... because there are so many it is taking longer than previously planned. However the canx are not to bad in the sense that the one that have been canx are reg routes and therefore the majority of pax can be easily rebooked.

Hoping to get things back on track by tues/wed.