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Ping Pong 21st Jun 2007 08:45

Royal Brunei Airlines
 
The 767 fleet has been at the sharp end for too long. Endless roster changes and less than contract days off.

Now my leave has been cancelled (again) due to the shortage of crews on the fleet. We are knackered. Im falling asleep on almost every flight.

The 777 pilots mean time are free to roam the globe with no work in sight for most of them and there is little hope of all the craft getting here anyway.

Shambles. Does anyone care?

Dixons Cider 21st Jun 2007 10:23

Have any of the triples turned up yet? Saw a photie a while back of one parked up in RBA colours, so they do exist.

thornycactus 21st Jun 2007 14:55

No Harm
 
Sultan Haji Hassanal Bolkiah is so rich and his country does not depend on tourism as a source of income.

Although RBA is their national carrier, government do not invest much money in air transport.

Should RBA turns chaotic, at the most RBA shuts the business (aka fold-up). It is not going to harm Brunei. :)

roxar 21st Jun 2007 21:30

yeah agree with u thorny..
sultan hassanal bolkiah is very rich..
so it dont effect the brunei economy at all if RBA is shut down...
because he can buy his own a/c..
:}

boocs 22nd Jun 2007 02:26

Feel for the guys still there....:(

possumshagger 22nd Jun 2007 06:09

Does anyone care?
 
Look, it’s been the countries policy to reduce the number of foreigners being employed there so that it will give the locals more chance to run their own things and the Airline is just one of these businesses.
Unfortunately quite a few of the locals that they put into important management & decision making positions are clearly well below the qualification and experience required for such a post. :confused: "What to do Lah"
Also I am quite sure that there is a lot of wheeling and dealing going on behind the scenes? Why else would they get some old 777’s that are strewn with technical & legality problems, unless certain people are making loads of money through the deal. You can be quite sure, that no matter how much we moan and grumble about rosters and leave they won’t give a toss, especially when they must be losing millions on training cost alone. For an aircraft thats not even here yet?:D
Just look at these ex BA trainers that we have got staying here at the moment sitting around doing nothing in The Empire Hotel, on a lovely chunk of salary that none of us will ever see. :rolleyes:

And the initial question “ Does anyone care” Ballocks!!! Of course they don’t?
:oh:

NDBDME 22nd Jun 2007 07:45

The BA crew are not in the empire!!:cool:

possumshagger 24th Jun 2007 02:47

Oh well
 
Suppose they are only hanging around there, as there is so little for them to do? Nowhere else for them to spend all their money.:hmm:

rolehome 24th Jun 2007 11:36

As if things weren't difficult enough the acting boss has now changed the rules for applying for leave. Doesn't he have better things to worry about?

boocs 24th Jun 2007 19:25

Feel sorry for the guys still there.............:(

xrba 25th Jun 2007 02:09

Why on earth, unless, by virtue of great age or inadequate jet time, which means that you can only be employed by RBA and the like, do you stay there Ping Pong? Even locals, despite great domestic pressures that can only be surmised, have left for pastures anew. RBA has not been recommended as an employer for anyone [except graduates of Jack's Junior Jet Club] for some time now. Few in recent years have regretted leaving, so don't bother complaining here, you will get little sympathy. There are many other jobs are out there at the moment, and most are better by all accounts. This situation is cyclic so why not seize the opportunity? The emergence of the new Asian low cost carriers will certainly not be assisting RBA's bottom line, which was always subterranean anyway, and most expats can only survive so long thanks to the colossal ennui of the place. You have the choice. Good luck.

CAPTAIN WOOBLAH 25th Jun 2007 02:30

Xrba,
you are spot on it is sad to see that from the night of the long knives the drama continues to this day.
To the pilots at RBA today do what the chaps at MAS did
VOTE WITH YOUR FEET
It is a pilots market out there so don't winge nobody listens just do it.
Wooblah

possumshagger 25th Jun 2007 06:12

Go Walk about
 
I'd like to think that voting with your feet would have an effect, but sadly, I don't think it would. In the end, the guy's that are left will have to carry more and more of the burden? they will still just keep taking in junior pilots to fill the demand. Does anyone know when the new CEO is due to take over, not that he will have any say!!!:ugh:

xrba 26th Jun 2007 00:19

Whilst it must give you a warm glow feeling altruistic about the fate of those who, for reasons that must be increasingly difficult to justify, remain in RBA, most of us leave welfare to the padre [imam?] and carve our own path through the minefield that is the aviation game. Leaving usually does solve one problem, your own!! What happens to the rest is their lookout. Get real and sort yourself out whilst you still have the chance.

Orangputi 26th Jun 2007 02:57

Being ex-RBA myself I am sad about the recent events.

We loved living in the Abode of Peace, but the package just got worse and worse for us (being an engineer made it even worse).

I am afraid the mentality is that they will only do something about things when there are planes sitting on the ground with no body to fly them and nobody to fix them, simplistic but true.

cruisin 26th Jun 2007 06:03

3 Monkeys
 
See no evil, speak no evil,hear no evil.

You have missed the entire concept of how a proper airline is operated, and all it takes is a few simple rules,

1. No strategic plan
2. No idea about tomorrow as long as you patch up today
3. Put out a roster so people think they can plan a life, but change it daily
4. Dangle a carrot and get them to sign dearly for it
5. Ignore Cost of living adjustments
6. Hold lots of meetings
7. Have long lunch breaks
8. Give 100% productivity bonus to all management

Easy, now stop moaning and be satisfied that all the rules ae being strictly adhered to, as per staff directives.

Ping Pong 29th Jun 2007 09:31

Vote With Your Feet - Too Easy
 
An easy option I have to say, but is it that easy. Kids love this place, and the school fees paid by RBA are a string.

I know loads of people have left, and I can see that just as a poster has said, dont matter how many leave they just keep dropping the hurdle you have to jump. Look how many hours you need to have to be a training Capt.

JC the feeble and ineffectual ex DFO and has been advisor has gotton the message that the 777 deal might be scrutinized and resigned. Only good can come of this, maybe a few more heads will roll.

At least there is hope even if we cant see the light at the end of the tunnel.

possumshagger 29th Jun 2007 11:50

Here we go again
 
Ping pong your right, Its not an easy option, I left because there is just no development for qualified & experienced people, especially if you want to be a training Capt and your not in the CD (megalomania group). Here they have again put up 2 very inexperienced local guys into training positions that is clearly beyond their scope. One has also been telling junior F/O's starting on the fleet that they have to get things word perfect, as expat Capt & F/Os are not that good?? Where do they get these guys??

SlimJim47 4th Jul 2007 07:20

Ping Pong

RBA management have ignored its crews concern over rosters, tiredness and on many occasions fatigue for many years now. They find the best solution is to ignore it. Pretend they are unaware it is happening as they are not suffering from the symptoms. Their rosters are nothing like the back to back long hauls of the line pilots.
As far as when the 777s arrive, there age, condition or the price is unimportant. The decisions of what planes to get will depend on the same criteria it always has.
What personal benefits will the managers involved get out of it.
Perhaps JC is doing a runner now knowing it may be investigated (RBA, I doubt it).
Remember what youve been told, If you dont like it, *uck off. Well in 3 years, when your bond period is complete anyway.
New CEO coming soon I but dont expect too much from him. Weve seen others come in, earn a good salary, screw the staff, then leave the mess to those left behind, taking his big bonus. Still amazed PF was employed by anyone again. But they dont seem to worry about his past incompetent management positions.
The 777s are manys ticket out of here, the management must be aware of that, which explains the excessive bond.
But they are not worried as there is still a very lucretive deal with rishworth continuing after many years, and that extra "income" is what keeps the management there.

Bob Hawke 5th Jul 2007 11:02

Three fingered pirates and serpents new!
 
Oh ye of good faith, be assured that those that carry the evil faith will not be bought asunder! The corrupt, evil and incompetent will stay and beg the Serpent New for vengeance, and will reap contempt from their fellows, nay without a care; those fellows which art true and can say naught and do naught but wait for Serpent New to splash venom from the corner vilest upon their monthly visitations.
Verily lies upon lies about the wondrous auto-camels will be cast amongst the riders of them, those Cameleers! For it is the desire of such pleasing creatures that makes the minions stay with hope in their hearts, longing in their loins, all with all, slavish duties and shekels’ of the poorest lands counted on the hand of three fingered pirates: Oh that the Blessed Master will bestow upon them new Caravans of joy, alas with a life of misery! The Misery of Masters small!
Yea, in days of yore when multitudes of cameleers looked upon the Abode of Peace with a glinting eye and heart of desire to serve the Blessed Master; ‘twas truly a sight to behold. Yea, the shekels counted fair, the dwellings were prime, and the Roster true. Now in these vile times, where those Born Capable take as the three fingered pirates take from the Cameleers new, verily take now from the Blessed Master, and allay the suspicions of fools by surrounding them with men of Black hearts and forked tongues.
As I ponder the bath of intoxicating bonding, and Crane my way to the Bank of Misfortune I know I shall be rewarded with a new auto-camel not of my Master’s Stable, but a Stable afar. Fear dwells in my heart as I ponder the wrath of the night of leaving to Lands more fair, for I fear not speak amongst the evil followers of the Serpent New, as thou make misery upon misery upon those that speak of such things. Creatures wicked, they are, that eat the hearts of men true.

flying-spike 7th Jul 2007 04:00

Succinct Reply to Bob
 
So I take it you're pissed off and leaving too?

Back2Back 7th Jul 2007 04:31

JC Forced To Retire To His Hacienda
 
This little nest will be lined from gains of not just the 777, but of all the other Investment for Retirement scams like crew car hire and Rishworth all aired on past posts.

Now im back on the 76 with the 777 in the back pocket I care not for the chaos that exists. That millions is wasted on poor planning seems not to worry a soul - but try not making use of a used envelope in flt ops and there are looks of http://www.pprune.org/forums/images/smilies/sowee.gif

A little bird has told me that an impending case in the High Court, in which he was a star player as an inept manager who sacked a pilot who refused to go into discretion, is about to start.

Hed better hide the loot well

possumshagger 11th Jul 2007 09:22

more money down the drain ( or in the pocket)?
 
Everything about the company is a scam, at least I managed to escape before things get even worse. Take the rating and run, there are loads of jobs around at the moment, its the only thing that will make them standup and listen. Can't believe they are still managing to recruit form other countries?:suspect:
Obviously these new guys haven't heard the real story.

organic3 19th Jul 2007 06:57

Incompetent Management
 
With incompetent managers like the dalai lama running things, what would one expect. No one seems to have the guts to stand up to this bully. He proves on a daily basis, that he has no managerial skills whatsoever. RBA really need to get rid of this guy, before they lose more good pilots!

D'pirate 20th Jul 2007 08:00

Viva Macau is looking for quality 767 pilots :ok:

possumshagger 20th Jul 2007 09:01

Take D money and run
 
There is always 767 & Airbus jobs around, some with proper management who want their employees to stay and prosper. Just leave, they will never get the message and things will never change.:\

Tucker Man 24th Jul 2007 07:45

New Liquid Laws In Brunei
 
Turning the screw on the use of Amber Liquid is yet another reason for us to think about how green the grass is on the other side.

Bob Hawke 24th Jul 2007 12:26

Hisssss, spit, spit, it is I, the evil twin!!!
 
The evil twin of the Dalai Lama - Serpent New - is the crux of the problem really; along with hopelessly incompetent and inept work philosophy and lack of HR skills that the company demonstrates. "Bully" is the word that describes his behaviour best and he is thriving in a totally non accountable environment. One wonders if he's actually been egaged to bring the company to a grinding halt, 'cause sure as hell, he's doing it! Such a disgusting individual relies on spying, cultivates division, orchestrates discontent, threatens maliciously, prys into personal lives without cause or reason and reminds people of his "ill gotten" knowledge. A vile creature, most vile!

Really, he's just a shiver looking for spine to run up - so don't let it be yours.

Wouldn't you love to be so popular? What a backwater it has become.

Chill 24th Jul 2007 15:20

Bad things come in 3's...
 
Must be triplets then... same tactics by AAB in QR. :uhoh:

WiraMelayu 26th Jul 2007 02:16

Hi, I am a Muslim but out of courtesy and respect to Buddhists kindly refrain from using his Holiness name in your personal grievance!

Dixons Cider 26th Jul 2007 07:17

What are the new laws re the use of the amber fluid?

Tucker Man 28th Jul 2007 10:38

Serpent New n Town?
 
No folks he is not new in town. His offical title is Fleet Manager, 767 Fleet.

Bob Hawke, and others before him, has given a factual account of this managers 'skills'.

As Flyingtoothpick pointed out, there was fleet joy when he applied to SQ and all had high hopes to see the back of him.

Newer pilots in RBA might not be aware that he was successful in the interview process and was waiting for a start date to join.

However, Senior Management at SQ were made aware of what a disgrace to our profession he had become within RBA, and revised their offer of employment.

Static in the Attic 29th Jul 2007 11:47

Com'on
 
Tuckerman, cowardly words - ah the security of anomimity. Nope, not management, or a fan of; and as demoralised as all. But afford your readers accuracy, SN was not refused SQ due incompetence (too junior for reputation at the time?) - but rather impending pilot court case, which as FC he was necessarily involved in. I repeat, not a fan, just pi**ed at the misleading crap we read on Pprune.

Bob Hawke 31st Jul 2007 07:06

Static, perverted views you says; wot rot! Me thinks you have been dining,winning and perhaps dilly dallying :suspect: with the Serpent New. You have fallen under his spell. Mediocre as it is. Care for a game of golf, old chap!
Such a despicable individual who has utter contempt for all that don't kowtow to him and he's running the company - downhill!

BTW it WAS a good company, past tense! Prediction - more to leave very soon so don't be last, no use going down with the sinking ship. For the newbies, my condolences, you are about to discover a whole new meaning to reaming and demeaning. Shalom.

possumshagger 31st Jul 2007 10:08

Sorry Static, think you have been sniffing the BS too long, time to get your head into some fresh air. This management is absolute crap, they are demoralizing to nearly all and sundry, without a care about peoples careers or their future developement. Many have moved their families to Brunei with the hope of developement and promotion, only to be shunned and pushed aside by these morons in management or training. Just Heard they are again forcing an experienced SFO out as he doesn't fit in with their mentality after he relocated all his family to Brunei.
I just hope others thinking of joining this circus reads all these comments and doesn't make the same mistakes as some of us have done.

Tucker Man 2nd Aug 2007 11:13

RBA's Embarrassing Manager
 
Disagree Static.

SN had a well deserved reputation as somebody who lacked any moral backbone, and one who would without hesitation, ignor any legal requirment if he thought he could get away with it.

Unless RBA takes a clearer and tougher line on it's most embarrassing manager, it's credibility and perhaps even it's future will remain in doubt.

Brianigham 3rd Aug 2007 16:11

:ugh::ugh::ugh:Gosh ........this is starting to sound like MAS. What a shame.

Borneo Wild Man 3rd Aug 2007 18:19

Just returned from Serasa after a few beers with about 20 of the guys.Good to see a little bit of morale still retained.
I still think ,theres a hell of a lot of good bugg*ers I work with in RBA.
:ok:

organic3 4th Aug 2007 03:27

sad
 
brianigham,

If you are not part of RBA, then why bother posting. If its starting to sound like MAS, then bad luck.

Yes, this guy has no regards for rules. SN will work all day in the office and then fly a long haul, cause hes a 'company man'.

What sort of an example is that. Talk about unprofessional. unbelievable more like it. how does a guy like this get to be in such a position.
Its called 'localisation' folks.

Well, i am all for localising a company, but at what expense. If it means the company goes down the gurgler, like what is happening at RBA, then is it worth it. We have a CP who is way out of his league, (lovely guy mind you), and a fleet manager who is just plain incompetant, and a bully to go with it. I will not mention all the rest, but there are a lot of them.

Anyway, you see, what to do lah..

xrba 4th Aug 2007 04:22

Sadly, Tucker Man, RBA's professional credibility was hugely diminished when the Labuan Lunatic was not summarily dismissed for the most willfully dangerous flying episode I have ever heard of, and subsequent dubious command promotions have not assisted matters. Knackered old 767s don't help either. Some good guys remain for whatever reason, but have an uphill struggle. However, as everyone knows, RBA's future solely depends on the will of H.M. not any other factors. Will be interesting to see what, if anything, transpires from the long anticipated court case though.


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