Thanks Postcard you know me you know one thing if I am passionate about its NCL. 140/80 it ok......
Skyman - The extra stands and the pier would go hand in hand, why build a pier for only a few stands?? As for my loyalty for NCL well you won't find many more loyal! I do go out of my way to fly from NCL, why not it pays my wages however both destinations were not available from NCL, LRM & BGI. Plus you have to try the competition; you can also experience other airports flying from NCL so....

10 DMC ARC - as far as my employers are concerned, this is 2/3 complaints too much. Our customers perceptions of our airline begin the moment they walk through the airport as this is part of the travel experience, with the coaching being one of the complaints we hear. Whilst this may not sound much to you, in today's competitive environment, each 'comment' is one too many and this is passed to the powers that be.
Just speaking as a I find from a flight deck point of view ;)

10 DME ARC - I fully apprecaite your position, but you did take the bait...:D There are others who remain just as loyal, I for one have not been anywhere near MAN for many, many years. I have always patronised BA connections for longhaul, however Eastbound at least I will soon be able to use Emirates, & no need to suffer LHR, a disgusting third world mess (with one exception the Holideck business lounge in T4:ok: ) .

...more fool you :)

All the above gives me no confidence at all that any real improvemenets are planned in any aspect(including the 25min wait to get through passport control).
The attitude seems to be that the passeneger numbers are increasing therefore everybody must be happy with everything so no need to change/improve anything.
And not all staff are as good as the people on here claim. One of the best(in a long line) was when the check-in girl put the baggage receipt on the part of my boarding card that gets handed in at the gate without me noticing. What a job I had getting my suitcase transfered thro AMS. On another occasion I thought the computers had gone down as it took a full(timed) 15mins to process the people in front of me. When I got to the desk she said, "sorry for the wait, it was a large party". It was family of 4!
And can I get my China Airlines boarding card at NCL? Yeah but no but yeah but..... Some can and some can't do it. Are they all not trained???

Ash -I can assure you the airport takes all problems seriously, for example immigration the area I believe is about to be increased in size. What I was saying was why complain because you are parked off pier and need to be bussed, bussing is a normal activity at any airport. As for your check in problems I suggest you approach the handling agent/airline involved. People forget the airport has no direct control over check in and baggage reclaim other than providing the facilities. The airport used to provide all baggage services and it very good at it however in the 90’s the EU decided that it was un completive and they had to be given to handling agents.

Was there not a scheme planned a while ago whereby pax baggage would be taken from them before they even entered the terminal building?

Chief Executive
 

Interesting story in todays Newcastle Journal. Quote:
"Bosses at Newcastle International Airport have launched legal action against former chief executive John Parkin, The Journal can reveal. Papers - which are subject to a confidentiality agreement - have already been lodged with the Queen's Bench division of the High Court, it emerged yesterday.
The Journal yesterday made an application to obtain the details of the documents, arguing the matter was in the public interest, but a judge ruled that the matter would need a full hearing. The startling move comes amid claims from a well-placed source that Mr Parkin had an ongoing relationship with a European company that has recently bought Leeds Bradford International Airport.
The source claimed that Mr Parkin was set to be "parachuted in as chief executive" of the West Yorkshire airport by private equity firm Bridgepoint Capital Ltd, who just two weeks ago spent £145.5m purchasing the airport from five local councils after they agreed to sell all their shares.
A Newcastle Airport spokesman last night confirmed that it understood that Mr Parkin had been "connected" with Bridgepoint, who also helped privatise Birmingham Airport two decades ago, for more than a year before his suspension. The source also claimed issues had arisen over bonuses Mr Parkin had been paid last year in the wake of the successful re-financing of Newcastle International Airport.
Last night, head of planning and corporate affairs, Graeme Mason said: "Newcastle International Airport can confirm that High Court proceedings were entered into, but we cannot provide any further detail due to the ongoing legal proceedings."
Mr Mason also spoke about Mr Parkin's relationship with Bridgepoint - who list Darlington MP and former health secretary Alan Milburn as a director. He said: "We understand that John Parkin is connected with that organisation, but we are not able to comment further in view of the ongoing investigation. Any bonus payments, for whatever purpose, are a confidential matter between the company and the former director." Three months before Mr Parkin's suspension a major re-financing deal at the airport released £80m to the five Tyne and Wear authorities and two county councils which hold shares.
Mr Mason added: "The airport company fully understands the interest in this issue and we will provide information just as soon as legal proceedings will allow, but the reason we are providing such limited information at this stage is because we need to ensure that legal proceedings are not undermined."
When The Journal tried to obtain the High Court writ outlining the details of the case we were told it had been protected under a confidentiality agreement. High Court officials said details of the case could only be outlined if Mr Parkin, Newcastle International Airport and Bridgepoint Capital agreed. When we tried to get the confidentiality lifted High Court judge Justice Michael Burton told us a full hearing would be necessary.
Last night, a Bridgepoint Capital spokesman insisted no decision had been taken on new management for Leeds Bradford Airport. Declining to comment on legal proceedings, he said: "We have taken no decision on what additional management we may need for Leeds Bradford. We cannot comment on any relationship with any individual."

XL/Freedom Flights
 

We had already heard that xl/freedom flights wouldn't be selling flights through winter at NCL. I know it is early days, however, next summer seems to have huge reductions in sales from NCL, by looks of things they will only have 1 XL airways a/c based at NCL next summer an dusing Air Malta (KM) for some flights, must be instead of FJE.
No SSH selling for winter or next summer??!! seems strnage thought it was a big seller at NCL for both winter and summer. Any ideas who may pick up these routes?
XLA seem to be going ahead with the PFO through winter and next summer (old A-jet/Helios flight)
Summer 08 -
FAO - XLA
CFU - XLA
HER - KM
KGS - XLA
RHO - KM
ACE - KM
MAH - KM
PMI - XLA
DLM - XLA
Not much in comparison to xl's normaly flight routes, wonder if another charter will pick these up? No mention of FJE anywhere and no flights to -
Chania, Kalamata, Santorini, Thessaloniki, zante, Funchal, Alicante, Fuerteventura, Las Palmas or Malaga.
Again it is early days, rumours are that this is all they are planning at NCL from end of this summer due to ppl simply not buying there flights/holidays, apparently not profitable.

xl/fje to SSH
 

The main tour operator for this flight is airtours holidays.
Maybe they are going to bring it in-house next year mytravel/tcx flight instead. Im hoping they dont just have the thursday flight now.

Wounder is KM will be based weekends only fri-sun? freeing up space for more easyjets?

'For YHM replace with SFB':confused: Posting taken from another thread. Have I missed this, is it an additional SFB service?.. presumably they will be better prepared 2nd time around:\

xl4146
 

xl4146 to palma 22/05/07.
Yeah I'm not a spotter.. Just would like to know the a/c type company, any know prob's etc. As my son , family are on this flight on tuesday.
Regards nooluv.......

surely thats a good thing isnt it

GSM
 

All for the SFB service, think we should have more long haul from NCL, however not sure if GSM can cope with it or not, fingers crossed, no delays showing as of yet for today's service! Will they use a 757 for the SFB? I currently fly on one and don't tihnk i'd wana be a pax onboard for that long?! :bored:

nooluv - The XLA4146 is operated on the Finnair 757 :)

Thanks NCL1..

NCL1 Yep ! that's what I've read.:hmm:

GSM
 

Well, it's 1400 and the 1200 GSM still hasn't departed?! 3 weeks in a row now! Not a good start :hmm:.

GSM
 

Eh! My mates Mum & Dad on board - she will be full of Gin & Tonic.... why didn't it leave on time today - if it was the only day of the summer when it did!! :oh:

haha, not sure the reason for the delay today, finally departed at 1445, 2 hours 45 minutes late

Very strong rumour of SSH from jet2 starting Nov
If rumour is true it will be annouced roundabout 27th of this month

I heard that SSH is going ahead according to one of the Jet2 cabin crew.

Seems to be the new domain of LCC. FlyGlobespan to announce double drop service from GLA+EDI to SSH too for Winter 07.

Jet2 over "The Pond"
 

Well gang - to add a little fuel to the fire so to speak. Had a interesting chat with a guy from Jet2 Sunday evening.

It has been discussed already about Jet2 going to America - San Fransisco, Orlando and New York were mentioned this evening. There are 2 (out of 4) ex-China Airlines B752's under going ETOPS work at present, so I guess it will happen very soon. :D

And I think we already are aware the leased Flightline 146 is going. First port of call for this aircraft will be Southend for some work to be done, then it's off to Zurich.

"LO" with an APU problem caused a heavy delay to the afternoon Cork service, eventually left at 21.30hrs

"LA" will be back soon to join "LO" & "LX" on the 733 front.

I feel a bit lost as I am not too hot on airport codes, so where is SSH? :ugh:

SSH=Sharm El Sheikh

The talk on the other thread is that GSM will do a SFB from th Winter, if thats the case LS need to act fast. NY a possibility, SFO - doubt it, especially not in a 757.

Would any SSH flights be charters or schedules - are there any licencing issues with SSH being outside the EU?

Can't see as to why a weeky SFB would have any effect on any other US destinations ex NCL. As for LS & NYC, suppose it makes some sense if they can with hindsight see that such services as GSM's LPL-NYC are paying their way. 'IF' LS were to fly UK - NYC, then for my money I'd put LBA-NYC as their launch route. Furthermore S08 is probably a realistic start. From NCL's point there probably is a market for a Loco op to NYC in the summer tourist season several times weekly, but who knows. I feel that a successful product must be regular, depenable (GSM take note) with excellent facilities for business and transit pax. Got to agree that anywhere other than East Coast in a 757 would be unpractical. My question for those in the know, these ETOPS equipped 75's what is the proposed seat config ?

Its not unrealistic to operate a 757 to SFB, although quite often it would require a fuel stop in Bangor or similar, 75's used to be regulars on this service, again it would be interesting to know what the config will be.

Jet2 & America
 

I thought after speaking to the chap from Jet2 that San Fransisco was a little ambitious, although he did state it was a strong possibility. The Bangor fuel stop - very often done in years gone by, but would it be cost effective for todays cost conscious airlines.

Nothing mentioned on seat configurations for the ETOP's 752's, although he even mooted the idea of a 762 in future.

There is no doubt Sharm "SSH" ;) is THE place for your airline to go. Watched the popularity increase hugely over recent years.

I think whatever Jet2, Globespan or even EasyJet are planning, it all bodes well for the future of Newcastle. :D

Well techincally Jet2 could launch SSH as a charter destination as they have Jet2holidays.com, so maybe thats a way around and issuing regarding flying to Egypt.
Most of the 757s are undergoing ETOPS certification so im lead to belive, however we have heard strong rumours of EWR, SFB via BGR and YYZ, although we did here that JFK would be used as a mini hub to crew change and refuel on flgihts to SFO and SFB but its all galley FM at moment, I had heard other day that it could take up to a year to get all the planning together for ETOPS such as Engineering, flight crew training and I believe that the cabin crew will have to go back in the pool to train on life rafts as this wasnt done when they joined the company. The 767 has been going round for about 2 years now, first it was a 767-200ER so lets so what happens ..... LBA will be the first base to get it anyway

Need to get my head around this Bangor fuel stop on a NCL-SFB 752 service. Firstly I'm no stranger to this 'inconvenience' as it was suffered annually on the family treck to FLA in the late 80's / early 90's on west bound 752's of any number of charter operators over the period. However I do recall that this stop was always scheduled in any event. However on the latter years of 752 ops on the route, I recall that the flight was scheduled non stop and actually did this, was it BY?? prior to the intro of 762's. So what actually is the criteria of weight sacrifice, or were BY 752's upgraded in some way? nb. apprecaited that if Ex LBA then obviously stop would be unavoidable. I think that irrespective of the above, then one is at a significant marketing (and cost) disadvantage in selling in 2007 a NCL- SFB with a stopover when there are other operators who may be operating a A332 or B762 non stop.:ugh:

Well lets not forget that it is just a rumour for now. I would imagine that should jet2 operate to SFB they may well wait untill 767s have been aquired. Altho GSM do sell their SFB via bangor and it still sells!

jet2 - SSH
 

would make sense as it seems FJE may not be flying there from october, maybe jet2 or another carrier will pick up most of there routes, ACE, LPA, TFS, FUE, SSH, all popular in winter alone, plus all the summer flights.
ANyone know what/if FJE will still be around past summer 07? I heard they wanted 4 new a/c, 2 at NCL 2 at MAN? anyone shed any truth on this, seems quite good idea, also heard possibility of a 767 for fje at ncl?! Potential long haul routes then from NCL, which i think they should concentrate on!

Any rumours about what Easy/Ryanair/Flybe might be planning for the winter schedules?

NCL1 not sure if FJE will still be around, and in what capacity. upto now its rumoured that Air Malta will base a unit in NCL and operate XL/Freedom flights in summer 08, kind of replacing FJE

My understanding is FJE will cease to exist come the end of the Summer and the 757s are to be converted into freighters.

FJE
 

Correct me if I am wrong, did FJE's 762 go to Sliverjet??

RR engined freighters, now funny that crops up as FedEx are looking to source up to 150 RR engined 752's. The P & W engined models are apparently 5% less efficient, unless of course you fit good old winglets - see Finnair P & W engined 752!

Jamesair:
Heard nothing out of the ordinary regarding winter schdules from your mentioned airlines, no doubt the usual ski routes I guess.

Winter schedule from TUIFLY keeps Hanover at 3flights weekly. In 1940 out 2025 Th/F/Su

Yes FJEs sole 767 is now G-SJET with silverjet, and i had heard the 757s where going to DHL in november.
Anyone know why the KL AMS and LS AMS services where runnin between 60-90 mins late this morning? noticed a lot of UK traffic into AMS was running about 1hour late.

ATC strikes in Italy may have something to do with it