Flyglobespan - 4
 

A few questions

Can anybody tell me what equipment Globespan are using on the NCL and Toronto? (I know its somewhere outside Toronto and its 50 miles out, Closer to the USA looking at the map) I've heard it is a 737. No way am I going long haul on a single isle aircraft. Is it the same aircraft operating out of Manchester to Toronto? Am I wise booking tickets or is this whole thing going tits up? Should I book Zoom? Is Globespan a member of ABTA? Nothing on their website. Thanks guys


Continuation of: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...245931&page=13

The Man-Yhm should also be a 757, but it all depends if GSM can get 2 more 757's with the ER and 3 class config in time.

There are many airlines operating single aisle aircraft over the atlantic, Continental (B757) to Newark (from many European airports) , US Airways(B757) to PHL from Glasgow, Thomas Cook (B757) to Eastern Canada, Air Canada(A319) from Heathow to St Johns, Astraeus (B737) to Deer Lake, to name a few. Why would you not want to go long haul on a Single Aisle as it is becoming very much a normal occurance now. Also TCX operate a NCL-YYZ flight but thats a 757.
Air Transat have an EDI-YYZ on a A310 if you want to go widebody.

YYC & YVR Flights
 

Ive been looking at the YVR & YYC flights from GLA, MAN & LGW and the flight times sugest these routes will be operated by the one Boeing 767.
It operates as follows:-
Monday :- GLA - YVR, YVR - YYC - LGW
Tuesday :- LGW - YYC - YVR, YVR - MAN
Wednesday :- MAN - YVR, YVR - LGW
Thursday :- LGW - YVR, YVR - YYC - GLA
Friday :- GLA - YYC - YVR, YVR - YYC - MAN
Saturday :- MAN - YYC - YVR, YVR - LGW
Sunday :- LGW - YVR, YVR - GLA

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No way am I going long haul on a single isle aircraft.

Get used to it. CO, US and soon DL will be operating them. Most of the charter's fly 'em as well!!! Very few people would turn their noses up at flying a 757 across the pond if the fare's were low, or the alterantive was a flight via LHR etc!!!!

Toronto isn't exactly long haul more medium haul,
It is not much more like GLA/EDI/ABZ - TFS/SSH/HRG
UK to EWR/BOS
It Is All In The Airlines Seat Configuration ( take TOM 763 for example, these squeeze Pax like sardines and operate them to southern US & Caribbean even Oz before sheer punishment ) because it is a wide bodied aircraft doesnt make it more comfortable.
the above routes have been and are used succesfully by 757's even A320/737 recently
We all have to get used to it in the future when the next generation of single aisle replacements for the A320/737 alike are introduced there will be a model that is to replace the 757-200 seating and range without the awsome powered 757 engines

has anyone ( crew or pax ) flew on their Saturday GLA - SFB on the 738 ?
how was it or what did the pax think I believe the aircraft is in normal short haul configuration

Yep, Flew on G-SAAW 737-800 from GLA to SFB. The aircraft is configured for 189 seats if I remember correctly. Not the most comfy flight I have ever been on but that said, there were very few moans from the pax. Must have had their minds firmly set on meeting Micky and Minnie!

Yep I did that route 3 times (as crew)....to be honest pax were generally ok as most had been advised in advance of a/c change. Seating on the 738 is just as comfortable at on the 763 in economy and premium economy. Business pax who chose to travel on 738 obviously missed out on the business seating and had a reduced service ( ie meals on standard lay ups as apposed to plated meals). As far as I know business pax were offered a free flight to SFB also.

There was no IFE for the economy pax, but portable IFE players were offered to pax who had booked business or premium seats.

As a crew member it was hard work, what with pax queueing for toilets and galley space etc but we managed.

The 738 no longer operates to SFB.

FlyGlobespan
 

Did I hear a sniff about GSM doing STN-LCA?

If so, when are they going to launch it? I can't find it on their website...

:confused:

Rumour mill in Ireland suggesting an announcement of transatlantic services through NOC for summer allegedly to be unveiled at Holiday World, RDS, Dublin this weekend!

Its been widely reported that they are stopping the LPL JFK service in
NOC a couple of times a week.

Clipper....with respect I am well aware that it has been widely reported, I am however alluding to the rumour mill from NOC over the last few weeks hinting that it may elevate from a possible launch to an official launch!

According to a local news paper the service has US DTO approval and they are waiting on the Irish government.

http://westernpeople.ie/news/story.asp?j=35183&cat=news

All GSM flights to New York departing Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday will stop at Knock. The aircraft will now land at JFK at 1800 rather than 1530 but departs Liverpool half an hour earlier.
The return flights on Sun, Tue and Thur operate via Knock inbound too arriving at Liverpool at 0845.
This applies to the summer schedule only at the present time.
Cheers!

The Glasgow/Boston operates westbound via Knock on Wednesday and Sunday and eastbound on Tuesday and Saturday during the summer period.

Lpl-noc-jfk-noc-lpl
 

Great for Knock passengers; not such an attractive product for Liverpool passengers?

Liverpool pax can choose the days it goes direct, not a problem for LPL pax really,

Globespan
 

If this works from Knock it should work from Cork which has a far greater catchment area and has many US companies based in the vicinity of the airport.

When exactly in summer is the 3rd 767 from NZ due? Jethros has it listed as ZKNCO

Is it still due? Latest I've heard, but I stress NOT confirmed.

The two B767's to return to the lessor Apr / May 07
GSM will not acquire their own B757's
The first new B737-700 due in Feb 07 will be regd G-MSJF (Reason?)
All transatlantic services (With the exception of GLA / BOS) to be sub-contracted out.
Loftleidir / Icelandair have proposed a deal for the use of up to six B757's

There have been so many differing variations of the fleet proposals for summer 07, that it is getting nigh impossible to separate fact from fiction. Anyone in a position to confirm or deny the above?

jethro
UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings
http://www.jethros.i12.com

The 767,s are not going back, 1 is staying with AIR INDIA the other so far is doing the daily SFB from GLA, 1 757 of our own then having 2 757 from ICELANDAIR.

extra 2 737-700 coming plus 2 more 737-800 = 5x 737-800 for summer

One of the 757 from icelandair will be doing the daily LPL/JFK

Also 1 x 767-300ER dont know where its coming from, we presume icelandair as well, not been confirmed yet.

All icelandair on damp lease. there flight deck our cabin crew

JNB
 

Cape Town on sale for winter 07 plus JNB now on sale as well twice a week..

Jethro - I think the 73G is G-MSJF because JF is the Director of Flt Ops' initials - dunno who/what MS is.

Oooops
 

Slight delay on the return flight to Manchester from Toronto today ..... 20 hours

Yup, a/c's cockpit window is broke, still not fixed..... CPT's are going to be about the same......

So, the aircraft is running over 20hrs late, due to a tech problem..but are you saying despite the delays, the tech problem isn't fixed?:confused:

It was fixed in GLA, but i understand the problem had re-occurred during the flight to YYZ, the a/c came back from YYZ to MAN and was fixed in a hanger this morning.

FG, is on its way to CPT and should take tomorrow's CPT out 8 hours later than 15:25.....:ugh: Unless the aircraft doesn't want to....:uhoh:

from Manchester Airport website

A GSM712 05 Feb 07:55 Cape Town Expected 5 Feb 22:30

I was checking the GLA - SFB routing usually taken on a Tuesday with the 763 via BFS, but see it is only operating Wednesday at the moment according to GSM's website, but the aircraft does not leave SFB till Thursday evening's to return is there a reason for this.

The Gsm 712 arrived this morning at 09:30, and will be taking Monday's pax out at 15:25, then arriving back in MAN tomorrow approx, 8 am.

SFB to GLA is to depart at 20:50 and arrive in SFB at 02:15, guessing thats a re-sche...then the a/c will be back on it normal sche...

Its been one hell of a weekend for FG...:ouch:

Whats the deal with the LPL-JFK route then? The flight times have changed (again) on the website. For example...

Saturday 07 July 2007 GSM201 15:00 18:00
Sunday 08 July 2007 GSM201 12:30 15:30
Monday 09 July 2007 GSM201 15:00 18:00
Tuesday 10 July 2007 GSM201 12:30 15:30
Wednesday 11 July 2007 GSM201 12:30 15:30
Thursday 12 July 2007 GSM201 12:30 15:30
Friday 13 July 2007 GSM201 15:00 18:00

So, Tues, Thurs and Sun will be via NOC. The Wed flight which is direct takes just as long to reach the states... OR... does this mean that 4 of the weekly flights could be going via NOC? The other 3 flights now leave at 3pm (thanks for letting me know of the time change via email GSM :ugh: ) but the flight takes just as much time as if they were stopping in Ireland.

Confused :confused:

.5 - Could it be stopping some where else? I had heard LPL-JFK was not selling very well and hence the drop into Knock! Could the other days be visiting some where else??

10 Dme Arc
 

Going at some of the fares for the route I think what you heard is wrong.

Looking at the airlines other routes it looks like a flyGlobespan thing to stop enroute. You only have to look at Stansted to Toronto this summer with every flight having a stop, the Glasgow to Boston is the same as the LPL/JFK in having a stop in Knock on some days. Even some of its European routes are having stops.

dwlpl - Don't get your back up! No airline would double pick up because its their 'thing'! GSM do so to fill a/c, mind you the costs doing this must be high, on fuel alone!
LPL must be difficult to sell transatlantic with the choice avalable down the road at Manchester?

As I pointed out its done by them on numerous routes not just Liverpool.

I checked a few random dates & BA Economy class dirct from MAN-JFK was cheaper than the Globespan equivalent (eco plus), by as much as £100 at times. Doesn't seem to be a bargain bucket operation. The web timetable doesn't give any indication that their flights are not non-stop (on any route). That's something I'd like to take into consideration before making a booking.

The route is as I said previously is showing an increase in fares from the basic rate points towards seats selling at a good rate.

TF-FIB arrived back to Manchester from its
lease to Santa Barbara on Monday...
is this one of the B767's for lease to GSM and its
ever expanding summer network ?


MM

I don't think so. As far as I am aware the B767s are coming from ANZ and the B757s from ICE. I may be mistaken!

GSM seem to have at least tidied a bit of the timetable issue up. All direct service depart LPL at 1500 arriving at 1800 (7 hours). All services via Knock depart LPL at 1230 arriving at JFK at 1530 (also 7 hours!!).

The timings from Knock state a 1430 depature (sounds about right), but arrives into JFK at 1800!!

GSM Comes to CWL tomorrow on a charter flight to EDI carying the Wales rugby team. If rumours are true then this maybe a familiar sight at CWL in a couple of years.

:ok:

2 757's from Icelandair yes, one flying LPL-JFK and the other GLA-BOS.

TF-FIB is not going to fly for Flyglobespan no. It will be leased to a airline in Finland.