just been informed by the company that the second 767 is going to Air India in May and 2 NEOS 767s will be doing the longhaul programme with cabin and flightdeck crews 2 Icelandair 757s and as we dreaded they are using the 737-800 to Hamilton out of Manchester. Oh dear .

if you read it properly we have 2 75 from icelandair and our own 75
no 737 is operating from manchester.... just the 75 from gsm and 767 from neos..

Well I for one ain't going to fly to Hamilton on a 737 from Manchester. Your bosses must come from another planet. It's a short haul aircraft. Always has been and always will be.

Is Globespan advertising this? I bet not. Bunch of idiot's.

Are you quoting that first bit of your post Diesal, otherwise your contradicting yourself with the second part about the 737 out of Manchester.

If an 737-800 'was' going to op the YHM route it would have to go via Iceland to re-fuel as the first flight to YYZ did out of Manchester in November. :rolleyes:

Man-yhm 07
 

Flight is being operated by 757-200ER of GSM not a 737-800. There is no 737 in MAN or LPL this summer.

Does anyone know where the 757 is coming from now, and with the 767's coming from neos are they going to be in GSM colours or Neos ?

The 737-200 is a short haul aircraft. It is not comparable to a B737-800W. Even the B737-700 / BBJ is used on KLM services operated by Privitair across the pond. It is quite a different animal I think.

Friday MAN-YHM is on a 737-800 from July, with tech stop at Keflavik both ways.

757 is flying the Dub/Shannon on Fridays and then operates the LGW and MAN flights to YHM on the other six days.

GLA-YHM is 737 every day except for Fridays when the flight is cancelled to free up the 737 for the Manchester op.

OK, I'll admit, I'm completely befuddled about these Neos 767s.
Looking at the Neos website, they're configured in a one-class layout - surely Globespan wouldn't change this to their 3-class layout just for one Summer of operation? Or have I missed something here....

And what exactly is the point of having two of your own 767s when you go and lease them to another airline...meaning you have to lease in other 767s?!

It just doesn't make sense. At least, it doesn't to me!

Rob

It makes no sense to me either. Being a Scot I hope they are doing the right thing - it would be good to see a Scottish airline survive, but the way things are happening.....Laker springs to mind!

I am just about to book on the inaugural flight from EDI to YHM (5 May) but I'm extremely reluctant. I would like to have some sort of guarantee that if I book premium economy that I'll be getting a 757 with what I pay for and not a 737! It's very disconcerting. YHM is far more convenient but at least I'd no what I'm getting if I book with Air Transat and go to YYZ. Does anyone else have my concerns? It all seems such a mess......so should I or shouldn't I?????? :{

its all to with money, lets face it if GSM were not making money leasing the aircraft out to Air India then why would they do it, they certainly wouldnt do it for fun!!From an outsider I think there expansion is meteoric but give them there due they are a forward thinking company who wont let anyone get in there way!Not affiliated with GSM just proud they are scottish and what they done for travel from Central Scotland when Easyjet wouldnt take it on!Go GSM!

So, exactly what a/c will be doing the SFB route this summer?

Carnethy
I share your reservations and am not sure to book or not. I want too book, but my gut feeling is Globespan will go bust before the summer. I will not fly the puddle in a 737. It is a crazy, crazy thought that only a crazy looper could think up.
What fool came up with this crazy idea?? Please give me his name. I will track him down, rip his head off and cak in his neck. Stupid is what stupid does.
Somebody please tell me it's not a 737. I pax BFS - EDI in a 737.
Globespan get your act together. Put on your website the equipment you will use this summer. Stop trying to trick pax onto your aircraft.

Hudson Bay,

I am sure l have read very imformative posts by you over time on prune, but your last may l say is utter drivel!!

What is it exactly with the 737 you object to across the atlantic?

Lets face it Globespan are not pioneers, there are quite a few operators already doing it!

I agree there plans look strange but l do think they know what they are doing, time will tell, however one thing l will say your assertion that they will go bust that they will go bust before the summer is totally wrong.

One thing l personally would like is they concentrated on Scotland because let me tell you guys down south of hadrians wall this company has been going great guns up here and the majority of the travelling public are delighted with the company doing the routes that sleasyjet would not even entertain because it was "too expensive".

There you go, and l dont even work for them.

Quite a few already doing it?
 

Sky Trax 2
Hi all!!
Reading with interest the commentaries about 737 operations on the Atlantic. I am absolutley delighted that Flyglobespan are lauching NOC to USA even if it is using 738 on some flights.

However, I just picked up on what you wrote there 'sky trax2' that
Lets face it Globespan are not pioneers, there are quite a few operators already doing it
I am wondering who is using the 737 on Transatlantic services already? As this comment surprises me?

For the record i dont have any concerns about 737s on T/A. Re the comments about Flyglobespan, I remember when the were doing Scotland to STN and many said at that time that there were doing quite badly but if sources are right they have very strong financial backing. Lets hope they are around for the long haul.. Excuse the pun!!!!
EI BUD

737 Transatlantic
 

EI-BUD

As far as I am aware no UK operator are sending 737's across the Atlantic
on schedule services or ever have.

Astraeus use the 73G but I don't think it is classed as a schedule but could be wrong.

However KLM, Swiss and Lufthansa all send 73G/319's across the Atlantic
but in low density configuration and the aircraft belong to Privatair.

In short, it is happening but not in the same config that flyglobespan will use.

Also it is rumoured that eventually once the Continental 757's retire, then it is possible they will use the 739ER (I am not sure if they have any on order yet or it is just a consideration).

OP

737 Transatlantic
 

Olton Pete
Thanks for the Info. I forgot all about the Privatair flights!

And yes I think you are right about Continental using 739s in the future as this A/C is the replacement for 757?

Cheers.
EI-BUD

well does anyone know what a/c will be going bfs-sfb i am booked for may in business the i have already selected my seats i think it was on a 767

Even if GSM are going to use there 737's across the pond, they are not in 3 class config, which people are buying. :ugh:

Does anyone know which a/c will be operating the Exeter - Hamilton flights?

Should be an Icelandair B757-200 (STN base)

I'm not trying to be funny here, but are you absolutely 100% certain about this? If so, your source is……..?

jethro
UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings
http://www.jethros.i12.com

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Do flyGlobespan ever reply to emails? I went for an interview 1st March and got a 2 to 1 interview and was told I would hear, as of yet not a sausage! How long does it take them to reply with an outcome of an interview?
Unique

Oh right, thanks for that. Was hoping it would be a B767 but never mind.

(Ps Jethro - Love your website. Am always monitoring it :) )

Thought I'd read somewhere on the Cabin Crew forum that it was going to be an Icelandair 752 but can't find it now, sure it said something about 738 operating GLA-YHM 6x a week and once from MAN (the 7th GLA being cancelled), or something like that.....

All up in the air at the moment as to what will and what won't be operating, and as far as I can gather from the CC forum, they don't know what is going on either.

Isn't all the Stansted one stop flights to Hamilton with the 757-200?

BAA website shows B767-300 (under timetable), alough it is still showing direct flight :ugh: .

BAA say alot of things!

Want to fly LS EDI-PRG this summer? 752 if you ask BAA!:hmm: OBVIOUSLY NOT! (733 for anybody who doesn't know!;))

GSM need to get hold of some first....:ugh: :uhoh:

i have travelled twice now with them bfs-sfb and 2 more trips booked for june and sept in business any info would be great thanks

with another 4 x new 737W's still to arrive ( 3 x 738W's & a 737W ) for this summer aparently, do not be surprised if some/all these new aircraft are re-configured to suit the new transatlantic operations.

can a 737w make it direct to sfb or will it be stopping at stjohns like the flights early this year

Glasgow Sanford with Globespan
 

As Globespan have now leased both of their 767's to Air India and leased 2 x 767 306's from Neo (which do not have Business or Premium seating) looks like there will be a lot of unhappy travellers this summer.

Can anyone confirm if there will be Business class accross the pond this summer or are we doomed to paying for a service simply to be informed that it wont be available just days before we travel, and have to waste time complaining to get the money back for a service we shouldn't have paid for in the 1st place???

I fly may 17th, returning June 1st and have spent all day surfing to get more info, as well as calls to Globespan who are still apparantly offering business class on those dates.

Aircraft quoted is 767 with business seating of 2-2-2. This is fine but have been told there will be a 767 with 2-2..... Great, space between the seates will be huge with just 4 seats accross a 767...Sounds like they are grabbing as much cash as possible to get the interest and then will plead ignorance to the fact they were never giving Business class in the 1st place. I've had my flight time changed already so it looks like the've started the dreaded TASS incremental changes (Time, Aircraft, Seating, Services).

This is my 2nd flight with GS, 1st was great, looks like this one could be a shambles.

Anyone got any insider info on the A/C planned for flights 17th May and 1st June?

They could of course be fitting their business class seats to the Neos aircraft - I shouldn't think the current ones are bolted that firmly!

not unless they have extras lying around. Air India have requested the original seats be left in the GSr registered aircraft..

the 737 in without low seat ( around 50 ) configuration is at it's limit around the Boston maybe at a stretch Toronto areas, so SFB direct is definetly out of the question unless stops are planned.

I would not be surprised if they lost a few seats and used the 737W's on the Glasgow to Boston, Liverpool to Newark or the UK to Hamilton flights. Seating can't be that much different to the 757 currently used by some airlines on U.K. > U.S. East Coast flights.

1 x B737-7W is destined for Aberdeen I believe, anyone know where the other is destined for ? or is it planned for longer flights.

The 767-300ER operated by Neos seem to be 280 seat unique class which i would believe to be single class with IFE so maybe it is planned to remove a few rows to offer seperate classes, dont suppose they are offering Neos catering though.

..... Liverpool is to New York JFK not Newark.

mm0wkj'This is fine but have been told there will be a 767 with 2-2..... Great, space between the seates will be huge with just 4 seats accross a 767...' Pure fantasy ! it will NEVER happen:sad:

The NEOS A/C are set to be re-configured to offer Bus/PE/No-Frills, but BUS won't have sleeper seats I think. The service will be much the same as GSM provides, full meal service, etc.

The B752 will operate the YHM flights from GLA and the B738 will still operate the BOS flights over S07.

The 1st B737-700 that is currently at GLA will operate from ABZ over S07 and the 2nd is due Spring and will operate from MME, where it'll join the 1st B733 based there from Mar 07.

Globespan GLA-SFB
 

Hi webby1919. I'm getting so much conflicting oinfo out of GS I dont know if anyone there knows what is going on.

Latest is..they dont know what a/c will be flying accross the pond, apparently they will discover that later this afternoon??? How can they sell seats on a plane they dont know they will have?.

Info yesterday was it would be a 767, 3 class, 2-2-2 in business, then it was a 767 2-2 in business (yeah right, that would give you almost as much space as BA 1st class in a 777....dont think so). Then today its a 757 2-2 in business but the seat alocation letters were all wrong, now its back to a 767 with 38" pitch in business (not the 50" quoted) and they're not sure if it will be 2-2-2. 2-3-2 or whatever they can cram in on the day.

I've been promised a call later today. If they ever get round to deciding what will be flying I'll let you all know. In the mean time I'm not holding my breath. By the time May gets here we'll be flying an a fokker 100, stopping in the Faroes, Iceland, Greenland, Canada, and North Carlolina to take on coal and water to stoke the boiler.

It looks as though the Timetables for longhaul are being rejigged just now - they're not available for booking, so what you say might actually be in the process of updating the site just now to give seat pitches, etc.