BA Cityflyer
 

Ok looks like there isn't a thread for this already, so now seems a good time to start one.
Some questions that I can't seem to find answers for.

Is BA Cityflyer going to be created as a seperate subidiary or will it be a renamed BACON just with the LCY routes etc.

Does anyone know what is meant by the expansion of routes out of LCY?

Could be an interesting few months for this airline and its staff

Wholly owned subsidiary which will be called BA Cityflyer. As for expansion of routes at the moment there are 3/4 aircraft based in Edinburgh. Once deal is all sorted out there will effectivley be 9/10 so more routes needed to work all the aircraft. This will include new destinations out of LCY and maybe an increase in rotations to destinations already served.

towser

Thanks towser :ok: , what would the chances be of a IOM - LCY route, and what slots do BA have availble / intend to acquire, T3 is cancelling its NCL - LCY route and so that will free up a small number.

The chances of an IOM-LCY are absolutely none. This would be treading on the toes of the Flybe deal to take the 146 operation that already sits on the Island. If they did try it, they would put Euromanx out of business in very short order.

As Euromanx only exist because they owe the RBS so much money they need to pay it back (at least £40mill so far), they need to stay profitable on the LYC route to survive. BA Citiflyer also exist because of a huge contract with the RBS on the EDN-LCY route, and the RBS call the tune. So go figure. Would RBS sanction an IOM rotation and jeapodise their £40mill investment? Don't think so.

What about routes like the MAD-BHX?

At the moment the route is part of a touring pattern through LCY. I doubt Flybe will be continuing the route once the RJs have gone to Cityflyer, as they will not have the eqipment to operate it.

So could we still see the continuation of the LCY-MAD-BHX-MAD-LCY rotation? After all they have got to find something to do with all the airframes.

It looks like BA Cityflyer is only going to concentrate on LCY to begin with so i would imagine any such existing route goes to BE.

IOM - LCY would be profitable, but the BE 146 deal is IOM - LGW so why would a wholly seperate subsidiary pay attention to BE. And are RBS really that involved??

I reaaly don't think the RBS are that deeply involved that they would have a say in such things however it is possible. As for the MAD-BHX as far as I'm aware everthing that Cityflyer does will rotate through London city i.e. out to Madrid, back to city and out to somehwere else so all the european stuff out of BHX that's part of a tour will go to BE.

The EM of today might not be able to get debts of that much, an i don't know where that figure came from but its still the same company that had dorniers and rj's galore to places like BRS with only 2 pax on board.

The rumour going around the UK regions is that BA Cityflyer will take over all BA's UK domestic services.

£40m owed to RBS! Lol, I can safely say that's not true ;).

There are no large loans outstanding with RBSGrp for EuroManx.

RR

That'll be annoying. I'll have to explain to people that I used to fly for the real CityFlyer and not this new shambles. :bored: :E

The rumour going around the UK regions is that ...........(insert latest BA airline) will take over all BA's UK domestic services.

Same thing happened when BA Connect was launched.

Its good to see them using The Cityflyer name again and I also used to work for the original CFE @ LGW !

Apparently people have been withdrawing their applications faster than ever.........BRAL style management techniques!

BA CityFlyer - same inept management, same decrepit aircraft, same prospective life-span - about 2 years tops!:E

skiddy

Cabin Crew LCY
 

Do they or will they have Cabin Crew based at LCY or LGW, any advice or help would be appreciated.

Apparently cabin crew to be based at both airports

Hence the pending announcement of two more LCY routes that has been reported - as yet unknown to where.

Actually Cfe @ LGW was profitable and existed for more than 2 years and was bought by BA for £70 million . I wonder what routes will disappear from LGW to LCY ?

About the only thing mainline didn't totally trash from the original CFE was the name. Seems that with the proposed management they are intent to do just that and finish the job off.
Isn't it a little ironic the CS former CFE is now FD and Deputy CEO at Flybe ??bet he is already rubbing his hands together ready for another RE screw up and the countless opportunities this will present them with, not least of which will be what can they can cart off for free again when he has.
So much for WW's reputation for being astute if he can't find better than he has.:}

Cityflyer and the Man 767 ?
 

Anyone heard whats happening with the Man-Jfk yet ? Are the Man based cabin crew staying on it or will Edi/Lcy be operating it or will it be Lhr crews ? The 76 rumours are v quiet...any news out there ?

Flymegirl, if your interseted, CityFlyer will be starting 20 cabin crew based at LCY soon.

The MAN - JFK being operated by Mainline LHR WW crew .

Flyer 55..thanks. Is that official or rumour ? the crews at Bacon that ops the 76 in Man have heard nothing !

I believe that is waht is happening as they will do it as a back to back , but also heard that EF LHR could do it !

Talk around Waterside is that BACF are pushing for a LCY-MAN route. After all, the management will need a taxi service from the office to the 'operation'! Otherwise, how can they be expected to even recognise an RJ100?

LCY-GLA is a goer, (possibly linked to an Iberian destination) as is a number of aircraft nightstopping in 'The Smoke'.

There are however, serious problems with the timescales for the start of the new venture. Apparently it's one hell of a mess! Wonder if that's a sign of things to come!

Did they not dump GLA for EDI about 2 years ago?

They did but apparently 'the market has changed'!

Yeah they did as LCY-GLA was not profitable !

Ok LCY-GLA didn't make money before but they must think there is a future in it found this on gla BAA website:


Featured destinations
London City
Fly to the heart of the City with new airline BA CityFlyer, part of British Airways. From the end of March, BA CityFlyer will offer up to four flights a day to London City Airport, linking Glasgow's growing financial services sector and the heart of Europe's most important financial centre. London City enjoys rapid transit links to Canary Wharf and the centre of London, making it the ideal choice for business and leisure travellers.


Have looked on BA and BACON intranets no word on it. So just wait and see.

In fairness was there not the opportunity to make MORE on LCY-EDI and focus ops there at the time? Remember the whole RBS block buying deal? Seems to have worked, good luck for GLA-LCY.
By God they really are London Airways now......hope this doesn't impact on LGW as easyJet are now on the route their.

Gla Lcy
 

It´s NOW bookable on the BA website by the looks of it

Monday to Friday

BA 8721 GLA 0700 arriving LCY 0840
BA 8723 GLA 0830 arriving LCY 1005
BA 8725 GLA 1225 arriving LCY 1400
BA 8727 GLA 1550 arriving LCY 1725

Returning flights

BA 8722 LCY 0910 arriving GLA 1045
BA 8726 LCY 1340 arriving GLA 1515
BA 8728 LCY 1800 arriving GLA 1935
BA 8730 LCY 1920 arriving GLA 2055

Saturdays

BA 8721 GLA 0700 arriving LCY 0840

BA 8722 LCY 0910 arriving GLA 1045

Sundays

BA 8725 GLA 1225 arriving LCY 1400
BA 8727 GLA 1550 arriving LCY 1725

BA 8728 LCY 1800 arriving GLA 1935
BA 8730 LCY 1920 arriving GLA 2055

Operator - BAConnect
 

Meant to add to the above post, the operator still says BAConnect on the BA website.

Wonder when BA will officially announce the launch of BACityflyer

What are the chances of this new service serving CWL? Air Wales did well on this a few years ago so it has he capacity to work.

Not Cardiff yet!

But this bunch have more aircraft than they know what to do with, so ANYWHERE is possible. Don't forget, this time, it doesn't even have to make a profit!!

Zurich's looking good too! :rolleyes:

zurich
 

Indeed it is, also bookable

4 per weekday, one on a Saturday and 2 on a Sunday

Zurich from City. Less than a year after dumping Geneva? Joined up management anyone?

either that or too many RJ´s and no where to send em

And crew getting paid more than Mainline LGW new entrants as they are both recruiting for Crew

Is this the 3rd or 4th time BA have tried GLA - LCY?