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ACCMan 15th Feb 2008 12:27

New routes
 
Flights are approved ACL slots. Don't know why QF are flying by ..... will ask around.

Cheers,
:)

Suzeman 15th Feb 2008 20:29


I believe that the extra stands on the west apron are really for cargo.
The extra stands are for anything, not just cargo. Because of the distance from the terminal, they are frequently used for night stoppers and long stoppers which don't need bussing. These new stands however do have some tie downs for B747 freighters which are in short supply on the rest of the apron stands, hence the fact that these types are often seen up there.

Just as a matter of interest, the B1D area infill for stands was looked at in the 1970s with the Trident as the design type. Needless to say it wasn't done then.

Suzeman

rampman 15th Feb 2008 21:26

the 5 new stands on the west apron all have tie down points for cargo aircraft they were also designed for B773 and A346 because they will not fit on any other remote stand except stand 80 (taxiway papa)

:ok: rampman

viscount702 16th Feb 2008 10:52

On the lastest figures it would seem that QR had a drop of 24% in PAX to DOH in January.

EX figures are also flat and have been for a bit.

EY do seem to be gaining maybe at the expense of QR

Overall the increase to the Gulf area seems to be slowing is it because the market has now reached what might be the appropriate level for the time being or are there other factors

Can anyone give any explanation

MancRy 16th Feb 2008 11:08

MLA under GT goes/went to 3 times weekly over the winter months anyway. When GT announced daily MLA last summer, we thought (GT crew) thought that it was a bit of an over kill but there were the bums on seats and thats what matters to U2. However, in the winter loads tail off and 3 x weekly is a sensible option.

Momentary Lapse 16th Feb 2008 11:53

Thanks Rampman and Suzeman for clarifying my point about the west apron.

They may be used for cargo (indeed some were designed for the larger a/c and with tie down points) but by doing so they release stands nearer the terminals for pax a/c, which were previously blocked by cargo a/c.

So MA providing them has increased overall stand capacity, which was my point.

Cheers!

LH436 17th Feb 2008 12:29

oasis
 
does anybody know,if the oasis flight Hong Kong-Düsseldorf-Manchester really starts in august:confused:or is it still just a rumour?
thanks for your reply.

Elmhurst37 17th Feb 2008 13:45

oasis
 
Nothing confirmed yet, the website is still unchanged. For the record it says...

In the near future, we will progressively launch new direct services between Hong Kong and the following cities :
  • Chicago and San Francisco in the U.S.
  • Berlin, Cologne/Bonn, Manchester, and Milan in Europe
  • Melbourne and Sydney in Australia

TSR2 17th Feb 2008 21:06

Oasis
 
I have written to Oasis three times now (as a potential passenger) asking if services are likely to commence by January 09. Oasis have not even had the courtesy of an acknowledgment to any letter let alone a reply. From this I take it that a service from Manchester is not imminent.
Not a way to treat potential customers.

EI-BUD 17th Feb 2008 22:51

Easyjet on Manchester Belfast
 
Hello all,
I read in one of the aviation magazines, think it was aviation news, that Easyjet would base 3 x 319s at Manchester on launch of its new base. It also said that the airline would be launching a number of new routes including Belfast. Does anyone know if this is so, I cant find any information online to this end.

It would be a surprising move as havent known them to target Bmibaby routes.

Regards
EI-BUD

Ian Brooks 18th Feb 2008 07:28

EI-BUD It will be 2 aircraft for summer 2008 operating the GB routes with nothing new until winter 2008

Ian

Bagso 18th Feb 2008 07:33

to TSR2

For what its worth I also emailed customer service (number on website) and had a reply within 48 hrs suggesting that a significant number of LGW originate in Manchester (..so whats new) and that they were looking at a potential MAN service. No timescales.

viscount702 18th Feb 2008 19:13

BA
 
It seems BA are keeping a codeshare on all ex BACON routes for the time being.

Skipness One Echo 18th Feb 2008 19:59

They'll probably try and buy out flybe in a few years. Then they get the routes, the revenue and the market share with little of the costs that the old BACON operation carried. They're like goldfish that way....

parky747 19th Feb 2008 00:56

Virgin Atlantic
 
Does anyone know if Virgin Atlantic have any further routes planned for MAN. They seem to be doing very well with what they do so far.

MUFC_fan 19th Feb 2008 10:30


They'll probably try and buy out flybe in a few years. Then they get the routes, the revenue and the market share with little of the costs that the old BACON operation carried. They're like goldfish that way....
That is just what I was thinking.

BE get Loganair and BACON, turn them into a profitable and lean working machine before BA add to their 20% stake (I think?!:confused:) and hey presto!

It would be an excellent plan for BA which would give them back the regions aswell as LON, but have the regions had enough of BA? They have let them down on many occasions and would the public from Wick down to Newquay appreciate DH4s and E195s in BA colours? Personally I would love it as my airmiles would go sky high:ok: but don't know about anybody else?

Comments...

On the VS debate, there were rumours of MAN-PVG but it was abit of a random route to select. I wouldn't be surprised if the next route would be LAX or something like that where non-stop are not available.

When the 787s arrives, maybe MAN will get some or a 343 taken off the LHR rotations.

MUFC_fan 19th Feb 2008 12:48

Some more changes to the S08 timetable. There are some changes to the SAS timetables for their three destinations.

Stockholm has twice daily 736 during the week with 1 Saturday and 1 Sunday rotation again with the 736 during the early summer months. This then becomes once daily Tuesday-Friday with two flights on a Monday and no weekend flights. Again with the 736. This is during the height of summer. Returns to MD80/736 ops in September.

Oslo remains the same except that the 734 will be replaced with new 738s on the Sunday rotations.

Copenhagen, again no frequency changes but the Thursday evening A319 will become an MD80 and the Monday evening will become and A319 instead of an MD80. During the final weeks of the summer season the A319 will move again to the Saturday morning flight.

I know this is abit random and not very easy to understand but we know how much airlines change their frequencies and aircraft types. Hoepfully this will help somebody wanting to book onto an MD80/A319/736/738 or someone wanting to get on an SAS 734 - better hurry up!:ok:

dh dragon 19th Feb 2008 15:43

QR pax figures
 
viscount 702
The reason QR figures are down is possibly because they have effectively cut out travel agents by 1.reducing commision to nil.2.posting public fares which are the same level as the special netts given to consolidators.
3.failing to standardise their flight times ex MAN causing long waiting times in DOH.
They have also re-hashed their Frequent Flyer rules and down-graded people from Silver to Burgundy.!!
:hmm:

ACCMan 19th Feb 2008 16:08

Oasis Hong Kong
 
Currently due to start services via DUS on 01 June. In at 0900(L) and out at 1255(L). Terminal TBA.

Have slots for a daily op, but expected 3 to 4 a week to start with. With 363 seats, I wonder if they're going to sell the MAN-DUS sector?

All of this still to be confirmed ...... nothing definate yet.

Cheers,
:ok:

viscount702 19th Feb 2008 18:21

QR
 

QR pax figures
viscount 702
The reason QR figures are down is possibly because they have effectively cut out travel agents by 1.reducing commision to nil.2.posting public fares which are the same level as the special netts given to consolidators.
3.failing to standardise their flight times ex MAN causing long waiting times in DOH.
They have also re-hashed their Frequent Flyer rules and down-graded peopleSilver to Burgundy.!!



Since my original post I have rechecked the figures and find that Pax for LHR and LGW are down as well and in fact in percentage terms more than MAN.

I think there must be a blip in the figures.

Viscount


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