viscount702
 

Air Transat is showing as operating a daily 757 to Toronto on Amadeus.

Ts / Tcx
 

Checked on Air Transat site for next summer and there are the mentioned Toronto flights for sale showing as operated by TSC A310's. In addition there are different timed flights on the same days you can select as being operated by TCX 757's.

Looks like they are both operating Toronto with multiple frequencies per week for next summer.

Interesting developments for YYZ.

Although Z4 are showing flights for all uk points other than MAN my personal opinion is that they are/were considering expansion at MAN but hadn't finalised flights hence the reason they are not showing.

AC were originally showing as operating their usual seasonal ( which decreases each year) daily flights. AC no longer showing and the view seems to be they have left.

TSC would I think have stuck to their original plans of code sharing this year on TCX flights which TCX operate on behalf of Canadian affairs which is owned by TSC. However with the withdrawal of AC (if that is the case )they have decided to operate as well to replace AC with the A310. You therefore have a daily TCX 757 flight with a TCX and TSC flight code plus now the 5X weekly TSC A310.


AS to Z4 . I think it unlikely they have withdrawn (it would be against what they have been doing over the last few years) but what their plans are and what they may now do in light of the apparent withdrawal of AC and TSC seemingly jumping in to fill a gap is yet to be seen.

I have no inside information but others may to tell me otherwise

Viscount

Chris 4567 Post No.965

If you look on US Air web site, it does give you a number of possible connections, from being tight to spending half a day in PHL.

Put another way they have several flights per day between PHL and LAX,
some of which are not direct flights.

Regards

Jub.

The CX rumour-mill seems to have gathered pace on another site.... folk are talking about a possible non-stop 777 service for a February start.

Anybody got any further info at this stage?

With regards to YYZ at least it now looks like TS are operating scheduled services with their own metal next summer to complement the TCX charters. Would be pretty dire situation if we were just left with TCX and MYT charters to YYZ and GSM's "offering" for the brave hearted pax to YHM. Here's hoping Z4 confirm they are joining the party too.... eventually!

Surely MYT won't be in existence next summer, after their takeover by TCX?

Vuelo
 

True, I guess they won't be operating in their own right by next summer. Thanks for pointing this out!

CX
 

Is this just another wish.

If as CX have said before(last time they advertised a flight) they need 6 Months lead in time February is a very odd time for them to start. If they are to start which is a big IF I would have thought a start with the summer timetable would be the time

Viscount

chiglet, I agree. How dare some frequent (some of us very frequent) pax who use the airport all the time air a few grievance's over operational problems at MAN.

However, if you don't want to hear about the problems at your place of work (hardly a surprise, but who does ?) you can always stick your head in the sand and pretend everything is alright, when it quite clearly isn't.

Let's stick to the spotters wishlist's like 'I think we'll see 4 x daily EK A380 next week/2 x daily QR A346 by Christmas/FR could 10 based aircraft next summer' yadda yadda and other such nonsense instead eh ?.

I never said that it was right. I've posted my own complaints on here before now, and 'phoned 3776 "to have a word", emailed Customer "Services" etc....But I do think that there could/should be a "gripes" page for Airports, and this isn't it [IMMHO]

No, that belongs on Spotters Balcony. I understood that this forum was about Airlines, Airports and Routes
watp,iktch

"Let's stick to the spotters wishlist's like 'I think we'll see 4 x daily EK A380 next week/2 x daily QR A346 by Christmas/FR could 10 based aircraft next summer' yadda yadda and other such nonsense instead eh ?."

I hardly think the what we discuss on here constitutes spotters stuff..... I, seemingly along with others on here are very interested in MAN's route development and as such like to read and contribute to this thread which at the end of the day is in the "airlines, airports and routes" section of the forum. As such I feel that discussing MAN's routes and rumours about routes shouldn't be dismissed as "nonsense".

If we were talking like spotters we would all be comparing notes on the registration of the aircraft that operated EK017 yesterday and what might be operating it tomorrow etc etc which ISN'T what happens on this thread.
Just my little two penny worth :ooh:

Hear, Hear, MAN guy ,I for one agree with you I enjoy the info. that comes from this site.

The route updates and new routings come in very useful in my line of work. This sort of info with regards to new carriers my also mean new business for us.

FuelBoy

T3 British Airways - no longer
 

I don't know when the signs changed, but I was delighted this evening to see that T3 is now just 'plain' Terminal Three! :)

Bit of a shock in the price for those pax that used Air Berlin STN-MAN :{
are people going to pay Eastern's prices.

DTTP,
The MAN-STN route was a BA franchise, with BATPs, then BA[JS]41s. BA [of whatever persuasion] gave the 41s to Eastern, who "continued" on the route. AirBelin "took over" the route, to [AFAIK] add a "leg" to its LoCo network..as the timings were not that popular, the "Interline" pax were not there, quelle surprise..
It always has been a "niche" route... Flybee to Norwich "may", have taken some tfc away from the route.....sooo, we are back to a "niche" yet again but at least, it's an extra service [3x rather than 2x] and MAN based.
watp,iktch

Dont get me wrong, I am very happy that the route has been picked up by Eastern, I just think that alot of pax are being priced of the route,
maybe Ryanair or Easyjet would have been better for the man on the street.

I too am glad T3 are back on STN from the start of winter, the route very much suits T3 with the J41. T3 won't be that fussed about not carrying the pax who used AB because of their ultra low fares on the STN run, those using T3 will more likely be fully flexible business fares etc meaning they will probably make a fair amount of money from the route.

Moving onto AB, any half-decent future for AB from MAN will in my opinion, only come from direct routes to Germany. They seem to have just about come round to the idea of sticking with Hamburg and Paderborn as I believe these look like they are now staying. Hopefully a return to Berlin might be on the cards now too with the route soon to be vacated by LS.

Also glad to see T3 back on the STN route.

The problem with FR and EZY is that they have aircraft that will be on the gourng for 30-40 mins max between flights and so flight times are not always best suited i.e) BLK-STN.

It has been said that FR could have made BLK-STN into a winning formula and at one point were doing very well on the route (adding extra Sunday rotations) until they tampered with the schedule in the W06/07 and resulted in a later return flight which did not suit business passengers who had alot more choice into MAN alot earlier, even if it meant more hassle.

As a result, the passenger numbers declined (still made a profit) and they found more profitable routes elsewhere.

Obviously, if FR or EZY were to launch MAN-LTN/LGW/STN (which is very unlikely) they would have to fit their schedules around these flights which are very much time based and this would have a knock on effect on other, more profitable routes to Europe.

If they were to launch say a 4 times daily flight with good flight times they wouldn't make much effect on the other carriers into the city as the locos have not many passengers to look for except cheapscate businesses and tourists from the North West as VLM serve the business community and BA/BMI use their flights to connect their passengers onto medium/long haul flights from it's respected mega hubs at LHR.

Don't get me wrong, would absolutley LOVE EZY or FR on an LON route but cannot see it happening soon unless train prices rise and delays increase...oh...wait...they are going to! Lets wait and see!;)

Come on Mr. O'Leary - I dare you!:}

The strategy of allocating T1 to legacy, T2 to charter and T3 to loco airlines (at last!) should really allow MAN to now positively grow and consolidate in each area of business, with dedicated areas for each. I look forward to seeing the terminal one refurb, potentially check-in can be segregated into Oneworld, Skyteam, Star etc etc and they can all have longues airside - all this will definately ease growth in that area (my only area for concern is that terminal one could be stretched at peak times of day?).

I just don't envy the guy who has to co-ordinate the mass reshuffle!!

semisonic - will it be that much of a radical change? It would involve moving Delta/AF/KL to T1, along with other long-haul T2 carriers.