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Fuel Boy 1st Aug 2007 21:51

Fed Ex
 
Have checking the info there is no inbound MEM flight so it only routes through MAN on return to MEM..

Fuel Boy 1st Aug 2007 21:55


Rumour has it that Aeroflot are to introduce a 3x weejky service from Moscow. Anyone know any more?
As Before I have checked Slots asked and only found single one offs

SU8906 DC10F etd 1850 to Moscow and another flight in October :8

Vuelo 2nd Aug 2007 10:01

What other services are pencilled in with the winter slot allocation? Any surprises?

Are KQ going to ever start as promised last season?

Domrep 2nd Aug 2007 22:59

Fedex
 
i think ringway are losing the contract due to poor service rumour has it serviceair have won it back :=
Ringway are not losing them, Servisair have got the contract for the DC10 freighter that Fedex will be using when that service starts, so it makes sence to keep them both together:hmm:
Domrep

Bagso 4th Aug 2007 07:02

"...What other services are pencilled in with the winter slot allocation? Any surprises?

I had heard doom and gloom with more bad news than good !

chiglet 4th Aug 2007 14:27

Fuel boy,
Got the paperwork in ATC flight planning yesterday for four flights, faxed to Ops and Servisair. :ok:
watp,iktch

Fuel Boy 5th Aug 2007 16:21

Pax drop off
 
Can I drop Pax off at the Jet2 check-in point by olympic house or do I need to use free parking.
How close can you get to drop pax off?

Cheers
Fuelboy :)

lexxity 5th Aug 2007 19:40

You can drop people off at Olympic for jet2, but they still have to go through the main terminal as there is no entry to the ground level jet2 area now.

MUFC_fan 5th Aug 2007 22:48

Was hoping that Oasis Hong Kong may look to start MAN services in the near future but is instead looking at Milan, Cologne and Berlin. Shame really as this could be a great move if the airline and airport were to band their heads together. What do people think? Cheers.

On another note, I had a bad experience at MAN last Thursday on the taxiing-inbound FCA flight from CCC. We landed approx. 5 minutes early but then had to wait 45 mins outside the AVP to wait for an Air France A319 to vacate our parking space. This was due to a delayed flight! Now, if Air France are to base a plane at MAN for a night stop, surely there can be no delay unless there was a technical error with the aircraft! How can a plane be delayed if it hasn't even taken to the sky that day?!:ugh:

Also, MAN need to sort out their runway operations. We waited 35 minutes on the outbound flight to cross 23R because of the mrning rush. We eventually deperted 45 minutes late. This was after a morning of chaos with a delayed taxi from my house and excess baggage of £85. Not a great start to the hols!;)

Anyway, FCA were exceptional and their economy service was equal to that of BA, EK etc in the same class. Brilliant and warm loving crew!

Soryy about that, I just can't stand MAN operations, just hoped that all airlines were as good as FCA and could instantly destress you once you have boarded the plane...oh...wait...FR fly from MAN...ah well, that idea goes out of the window!

Ian Brooks 5th Aug 2007 23:40

Air France was probably delayed by slots into CDG as they seem to be all the time but unlike Flybe and previously BAcon they take the delay on stand, this then causes all sorts of fun for inbound aircraft
Sounds if there were a lot of delays the time you flew as usually the crossing clearance is very rapid and any delay is taken at the hold unless it was for 35 minutes?

Ian

MUFC_fan 6th Aug 2007 07:11

There was a constant flow of aircraft from 10:05 until 10:40. We just waited and waited. We firstly had to wait for an Etihad to pull out, incoming BA to head to T3 and then we waited by the runway with 7 a/c infront.

Not a good experience at MAN! But have had many good ones in the past!:D

flyinthesky 6th Aug 2007 07:32

Of all the airports I have operated in and out of, anywhere in the world, Manchester is without doubt the worst.

It is badly laid out and precious little forethought has been made wrt future development. It is a hotch-potch of leaking old terminals and ridiculously designed taxi routes. It is amazing that there are not more ground related incidents.

Sitting at the hold waiting to cross the landing runway is normality at busy times.

Approaching stand we are expected to use a vertical fluorescent light set against a blackboard. 2007 - I ask you!!! Go to just about any other reasonably developed country and see what they provide.

But never mind, we have a great retail experience and don't even get me started on the security and baggage handling - all stripped to the bare bones to make a few more sheckels.:(:(:(

MUFC_fan 6th Aug 2007 07:37

Have you ever been to STN, I used to fly on the BLK-STN route quite regularly. The only reason I didn't change to MAN was because LHR and LGW are just as bad!

MAN isn't that bad when everything goes ok, its just that that doesn't happen very often, thats all!;)

flyinthesky 6th Aug 2007 07:46

Actually, from a professional users point of view, having to use it as home base, it really IS that bad. The level of investment in the actual aviation related infrastructure is nowhere near what it should be for the size of airport and its supposed international standing.

Professionally speaking, STN is much better, although I don't visit that often. MAN has one of the most ridiculous taxi-route structures anywhere.

As I said, they put more store in retail than anything else. We went 9 months in T1 with hoardings up airside. On the side of the hoardings were signs telling us that the disturbance was due to security improvements - The result - A NEW BAR???:ugh:

Up against Changi/ Vancouver or EVEN Cancun, the airport is embarrassing.

MUFC_fan 6th Aug 2007 07:48

Wasn't MAN voted World's best airport about 5 years ago?:eek:

flyinthesky 6th Aug 2007 07:52

The directors probably got all their relatives to vote 'cos any pilot will tell you it sure aint up there with the best.

Don't think there is any way they could win that now:(

The place needs bulldozing and starting again but that's not going to happen!

Playamar2 6th Aug 2007 13:09

Would have to agree with Flyinthesky that MAN is going downhill in the popularity stakes, due to the imbalance of money and resources being spent on retail rather than passenger comforts (escalators working, shorter security queues etc).

Playamar2

Momentary Lapse 6th Aug 2007 13:52

It got best world airport about 10+ years ago, mainly cos T2 had just opened, where everything still worked because it was under guarantee, and there was plenty of space in T1 cos a lot of airlines had moved over.

Who was Chief Exec then?

Ah yes, Sir Gil Thompson, who retired shortly afterwards.

IB4138 6th Aug 2007 14:06

Gil Thompson was a gent and knew what he was doing.

The encumbents since are not in the same class; infact don't come up to his knee height.

TSR2 6th Aug 2007 15:14

Up up and away
 
Your flight to Kos was operated last weekend by XL Airways B767-3YO G-VKNH.


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